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6/17/2012 4:18:50 PM
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3rd grader forced to bathe by school employees.
[url=http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/16/12258691-parents-lawsuit-third-grader-forced-to-bathe-at-texas-school?lite]So, the parents sue[/url].
The oddest comment in the article and the one that makes me raise an eyebrow?
[quote]"It's never go two, three days without a bath -- never," the mother said.[/quote]
If it is never two days, why would she mention three?
[quote]"His body and his ears, they were really sore, real tender from being scrubbed," Amber Tilley said.[/quote]
Tender from being scrubbed with a washcloth? Is the washcloth made of sandpaper or is the childs skin that delicate (or unaccustomed to being scrubbed)?
I will admit that this is a strange one, but really doesn't smell right and I don't know if it is the child, the parents, or the school.
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This could be considered S.exual (Idiotic filter) assault. No one has a right to touch you without consent. The school was wrong and I hope these incompetent fools lose their jobs and get sued to hell, and everyone that knew about it should be fired. Report the parents if you have reason to believe the child is being abused. [Edited on 06.17.2012 6:41 PM PDT]
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you always get the weirdest articles
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 School should of called the parents if there was an issue. [/quote]My exact thoughts. It's like, what the heak?
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Many parents are ignorant or neglecting their kids. I see this at my work every so often. You want to help, you want to put your foot down, but you know all it'll do is irritate the parent and increase your chance of being fired or sued. I guess I can understand its none of our business to know what goes on at home, however, when the effects show up and effect the rest of the class, it becomes a serious problem.
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So they go through all of this trouble when the child could have been bathed and cleaned up in half an hour?
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People should wash. If they don't wash, their superiors should be able to tell them to do so, especially if they spend time with other people. It's not nice to be around someone who smells. EDIT: Read the article, and what they did was wrong. they should have requested for him to wash, not taken matters into their own hands. [Edited on 06.17.2012 2:36 PM PDT]
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Wow. Some people these days man I swear. SMH.
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Alright then ,to me it make's no difference whether it was a boy or girl . BUT, would you look at this differently if it had been an 8YR old girl that had been stripped ,scrubbed and humiliated .
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swine of War464 Bah. Half of that's crap. I know it.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE In the UK nobody has the right to lay a hand on your child . If a teacher did that to my children ,they wouldn't be teaching any more . They wouldn't be able to do anything any more , if you know what i mean .[/quote] How can the schools be expected to have your child for hours a day and never ever touch them? There has to be some reasonable amount of physical interaction otherwise you shouldn't be entrusting your child to them for over a dozen years.[/quote] If you think this it is ok then i think your a -blam!- Muppet. I thought forum Ninjas had common sense , i live and learn . There's a difference between helping a child learn gymnastics ,or pointing them in the right direction , or helping a young child blow there snotty nose . Infact there is a BIG bloody difference between the above and stripping , scrubbing and humiliating them . [/quote] I don't understand how my question about reasonable contact lead you to conclude that I am in favor of the situation described by the article. I am skeptical of the account, because it appears that the parents are only taking the account of a distraught 8 year old as the facts. But then again, I thought that was clear. It appears that we both live and learn. You have a problem with [url=http://www.fulton.k12.ky.us/new-atc/11-12%20student%20pages/powell/homepics/topicpics5/sw4.jpg]Muppets[/url]? Odd. But fair enough.[/quote] I think you are focusing to much on the fact that the parents called the scrubbing violent and that it harmed him. Perhaps it did, perhaps it didn't. I think the bigger issue that needs to be discussed is the fact that it happened in the first place. Regardless of what happened during the washing, it's the fact that it happened to begin with. If the school wanted to avoid the embarrassment of the child, they did a crappy job of it. I don't believe the kids hygiene had anything to do with it. I think there were some ulterior motives. According to the article you linked the parents have been complaining about the education there oldest son had been getting. [quote]The Tilleys say their three children have been the target of harassment and retaliation by district employees due to their contentious history of requesting appropriate education for their oldest son.[/quote] So this seems to be retaliation by threatening the kid like that. Which is wrong in it's own right as well.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotstreak666 I'm pretty sure that's illegal in some shape or form, teachers can't just strip a boy and bathe him.[/quote]Yeah. I'd be more worried about that whole little bit than being "violently" scrubbed by a washcloth. Which i'm pretty sure isn't possible.
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I'm pretty sure that's illegal in some shape or form, teachers can't just strip a boy and bathe him.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] egore11 How funny would it be if his dong was bigger than the principles.[/quote] Quality post. BTW, the principal is your "pal," get it?
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How funny would it be if his dong was bigger than the principles.
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Teachers or a school district does not have the right to strip an 8 year old boy down and wash him. That is assault.
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All I know is that the school doesn't have the right to make a kid take a bath. The parents could probably find a way to sue for -blam!- assault (the whole forcefully undressing a kid thing). Then again, why did this kid smell bad enough to warrant a forced bath? I'm guessing the aparents couldn't make their kid take a bath and the school made a bad decision. It feels like everybody messed up in this instance.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE In the UK nobody has the right to lay a hand on your child . If a teacher did that to my children ,they wouldn't be teaching any more . They wouldn't be able to do anything any more , if you know what i mean .[/quote] How can the schools be expected to have your child for hours a day and never ever touch them? There has to be some reasonable amount of physical interaction otherwise you shouldn't be entrusting your child to them for over a dozen years.[/quote] If you think this it is ok then i think your a -blam!- Muppet. I thought forum Ninjas had common sense , i live and learn . There's a difference between helping a child learn gymnastics ,or pointing them in the right direction , or helping a young child blow there snotty nose . Infact there is a BIG bloody difference between the above and stripping , scrubbing and humiliating them . [/quote] I don't understand how my question about reasonable contact lead you to conclude that I am in favor of the situation described by the article. I am skeptical of the account, because it appears that the parents are only taking the account of a distraught 8 year old as the facts. But then again, I thought that was clear. It appears that we both live and learn. You have a problem with [url=http://www.fulton.k12.ky.us/new-atc/11-12%20student%20pages/powell/homepics/topicpics5/sw4.jpg]Muppets[/url]? Odd. But fair enough.
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What did I just read?
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It was against his will. The boy could choke on the water for all the lawyers care.
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Moral of the story: Bathe your kids, people.
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Should have just had one of those play days where everyone runs around outside and there are lots of games that involve throwing water at each other and spraying people with hoses. Would have cleaned him enough.
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you send him home... not wash him.
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They should have sent the kid home if he smelled that bad.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE In the UK nobody has the right to lay a hand on your child . If a teacher did that to my children ,they wouldn't be teaching any more . They wouldn't be able to do anything any more , if you know what i mean .[/quote] How can the schools be expected to have your child for hours a day and never ever touch them? There has to be some reasonable amount of physical interaction otherwise you shouldn't be entrusting your child to them for over a dozen years.[/quote] If you think this it is ok then i think your a -blam!- Muppet. I thought forum Ninjas had common sense , i live and learn . There's a difference between helping a child learn gymnastics ,or pointing them in the right direction , or helping a young child blow there snotty nose . Infact there is a BIG bloody difference between the above and stripping , scrubbing and humiliating them . [/quote] I agree, I mean it's ok if the teacher has to pick up a child or something to separate them for violence or something, but that's where I draw the line.
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Who cares. This is contriversial new not real news. This is new made to get people attention. Literaly no one but the family and school employees involved were effected by this. If the story has no meaning or effect to anyone watching then it is not news.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE In the UK nobody has the right to lay a hand on your child . If a teacher did that to my children ,they wouldn't be teaching any more . They wouldn't be able to do anything any more , if you know what i mean .[/quote] How can the schools be expected to have your child for hours a day and never ever touch them? There has to be some reasonable amount of physical interaction otherwise you shouldn't be entrusting your child to them for over a dozen years.[/quote] If you think this it is ok then i think your a -blam!- Muppet. I thought forum Ninjas had common sense , i live and learn . There's a difference between helping a child learn gymnastics ,or pointing them in the right direction , or helping a young child blow there snotty nose . Infact there is a BIG bloody difference between the above and stripping , scrubbing and humiliating them .
