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6/13/2012 6:22:34 AM
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Am i the only one disappointed in Cortana's Halo 4 makeover?
I mean, they made her all.. sexified. i mean, bigger boobs, dark hair and dark lips? i for one don't like it. She was never supposed to have any sex appeal in my opinion and to go and give her that kind of makeover was really just unnecessary, probably just a ploy to sell the game to a wider audience. And i'm pissed, because she was my favorite character. She's like the girl next door who was your best friend until she changed herself for an audience who won't even appreciate her for who she is.
Hot Cortana is bad.
/rant
[url=http://i.imgur.com/dyLhF.jpg?1]Cortana from Halo 1 - Halo 4[/url]
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anyways i am fine with the changes and i dont see why i should be dissapointed about the chages concidering that she always changes drastically every game. H1 to H2 was a big jump, H2 to H3 also was a big jump, H3 to H4 is no different to the other games. A BIG CHANGE
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Me think's she looks Hot. sorry links won't work for sum reason . http://cdn.windows7themes.net/pics/cortana-is-back-in-halo-4-female-character.jpg [Edited on 06.16.2012 9:54 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dilinator E3 2006 cortana was hands down my favorite... it was a next gen version of halo 2's cortana.[/quote]Hear, hear! She even looks more [i]human[/i] than 343i managed to make her. [Edited on 06.16.2012 10:13 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bignasty21 Cortana is the main female character at this point, and from this point on, she'll probably be on lists with Lara Croft and Bayonetta, which isn't what Cortana is about.[/quote] For your lists about Lara Croft and Bayonetta, Cortana has already been on a few lists about sexy characters, and oddly sexiest characters if I remember right. Cortana has always been kinda sexy, but I agree with what the other guy was saying about the rampancy and stuff. She's obviously got a thing for John, and would probably change herself to look more appealing, MORE human to him. One of the stages of rampancy is jealousy after all.
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She looked by far the best in Halo 3.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WildGIXER DAVE Me think's she looks Hot. sorry links won't work for sum reason . http://cdn.windows7themes.net/pics/cortana-is-back-in-halo-4-female-character.jpg[/quote] Can someone get this link to work when i highlight copy and past into a new heading ,and select the one from the list that ends 550x373 it works .
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You need to do it like this: [url]http://AddressToSite[/urll] Remove the second l in the second URL. [Edited on 06.16.2012 12:25 PM PDT]
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I prefer her hair style and look in Halo 1.
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Does anyone have a picture from the actual game? That would do far better to illustrate her "Halo 4 make-over," not a piece of concept art.
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I don't care how she looks, she's always annoyed the hell out of me in every game. She irritates me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jack0fhearts Does anyone have a picture from the actual game? That would do far better to illustrate her "Halo 4 make-over," not a piece of concept art. [/quote] [url=http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Halo-4-Cortana.jpg]Halo 4 Cortana[/url]
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In canon, an AI's appearance has always been determined by themselves. I've never had a problem with them changing how she looks, because it's easily explained-Cortana changed herself. It's the changes to things that can't be so easily explained that bug me, like the new Grunts.
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She's gross. She looks like a desperate attempt to make her good-looking, but an epic fail.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chubbz It's the changes to things that can't be so easily explained that bug me, like the new Grunts. [/quote] Because all members of a species (particularly an alien species,) absolutely [i]must[/i] look the same, right? Seriously, though, consider it like the Jackal/Skirmisher = Kig Yar concept. These are just "Southern Hemisphere" Unggoy.
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I said earlier that Cortana was in the uncanny valley. Maybe it was intentional on 343's part. Cortana is in rampancy which is when an AI wants to be human but knows it can never happen. The uncanny valley is when something acts human-like but is subtlety off and inhuman. Maybe they are using the uncanny valley to illustrate her descent into rampancy.
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Personally I quite like the new look Cortana, if anything its the only believable makeover in H4 that could be justified by lore. I am much more concerned by the weird makeovers of the Elites and Grunts and even the Master Chief's Mk VI (which I actually like by the way). It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it. I understand that H4 is sort of a reboot by 343i but I just don't understand why they felt it merited one. A jump forward in time in the Halo universe helps justify new weapons and factions but it doesn't justify the Chief completely changing or Grunts changing their physiology. Personally for me the biggest disappointment is the Warthog. Beforehand it has been a trusty and beautifully designed vehicle that looked like a human design but with futuristic suspension linkages underneath (the wheel arms) but for some reason 343i felt it needed redesigning so that the suspension has been replaced by double-wishbone suspension instead. Double-wishbone suspension was designed in the 1930s, and it just looks unoriginal and dull compared to the wheel arms of the classic Warthog.
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I hate how her face now pops up on my screen whenever she talks. GET BACK IN MY HEAD!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it. [/quote] Exactly! But just because games change/improve their graphics, it's suddenly ok, and understandable.. It's like theres some kind of consensus that if you have more polygonz, it's ok to redesign/reimagine stuff, instead of just trying to match the original concept art. The entire H:Anniversary is a good example. Side note: I dread the day someone decides to remake something like MDK.. [i]"look guys, this game hardly has any complex geometry, we can't sell something that's this simple; people wont be impressed by the sparse environments, lets redesign the entire game!" [/i] Instead of just laying all power on surfaces, lighting, and effects. -__- [Edited on 06.17.2012 5:09 AM PDT]
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I can't really judge until the game, and thus the reason for her appearance, is out. If she gets overtly -blam!-ised for the sake of sales, then blegh. But if she's desperately altering her appearance to be try and be archetypely humanoid (ie, overtly -blam!-ised) because of rampancy, then that would make sense and be acceptable in the game's fiction/character. Or maybe some other reason.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka Haven't they added a HUD element where people/things Chief talks to are shown?[/quote] Briefly we see Cortana do it... at the start of the demo... that is about it. It's hopefully... not like Halo Wars, where they pop up every time they talk...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it. [/quote] Exactly! But just because games change/improve their graphics, it's suddenly ok, and understandable.. It's like theres some kind of consensus that if you have more polygonz, it's ok to redesign/reimagine stuff, instead of just trying to match the original concept art. The entire H:Anniversary is a good example. Side note: I dread the day someone decides to remake something like MDK.. [i]"look guys, this game hardly has any complex geometry, we can't sell something that's this simple; people wont be impressed by the sparse environments, lets redesign the entire game!" [/i] Instead of just laying all power on surfaces, lighting, and effects. -__-[/quote] [url=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VUwzrDCKHc4/S5Lo6cGwpbI/AAAAAAAAAA0/T6Y9V68j_-M/s1600/Halo%252BReach%252Belites%252B1]As if this is anything new...[/url] [url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg161/scaled.php?server=161&filename=20070605185654reelia1.jpg&res=landing]At all...[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it. [/quote] Exactly! But just because games change/improve their graphics, it's suddenly ok, and understandable.. It's like theres some kind of consensus that if you have more polygonz, it's ok to redesign/reimagine stuff, instead of just trying to match the original concept art. The entire H:Anniversary is a good example. Side note: I dread the day someone decides to remake something like MDK.. [i]"look guys, this game hardly has any complex geometry, we can't sell something that's this simple; people wont be impressed by the sparse environments, lets redesign the entire game!" [/i] Instead of just laying all power on surfaces, lighting, and effects. -__-[/quote] [url=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VUwzrDCKHc4/S5Lo6cGwpbI/AAAAAAAAAA0/T6Y9V68j_-M/s1600/Halo%252BReach%252Belites%252B1]As if this is anything new...[/url] [url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg161/scaled.php?server=161&filename=20070605185654reelia1.jpg&res=landing]At all...[/url][/quote]So, what's your point? Just cause it's always been that way doesn't mean I like it. Nor that one should, or that it's good for the industry. If you've designed something, stick with it, if people don't like how the IP looks, they don't like it. No need to alienate those who did. (although sometimes it might be necessary to tweak the design into working with improved graphics, but thats a consequence, not a will, and as long as that's admitted, it's fine). [Edited on 06.17.2012 7:22 AM PDT]
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I find Cortana's new appearance not just very different but quite repulsive, I do not like the black hair and lips. It's almost the same feeling I had when I saw Captain Keys in Halo: Reach, they were two different people.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jack0fhearts [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chubbz It's the changes to things that can't be so easily explained that bug me, like the new Grunts. [/quote] Because all members of a species (particularly an alien species,) absolutely [i]must[/i] look the same, right? Seriously, though, consider it like the Jackal/Skirmisher = Kig Yar concept. These are just "Southern Hemisphere" Unggoy.[/quote] That's all well and good, but my point is this: we don't care about aesthetic changes that are harder to explain, but people are complaining about something that can be explained away in a few sentences. It's illogical.
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I'm more bothered by the fact that her face pops up on the screen every time she talks. Reminds me of Lost Planet or some nonsense.
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You shouldn't compare in game screenshots of Cortana up against a digital illustration.
