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5/3/2012 4:07:54 AM
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Who else is depressed about Halo 4?
I certainly am, happily awaiting more information about Call of Halo 4.
Confused?
Well I'll tell you something.
-Before you read, I'm not singling out CoD, I'm simply using it as an example in my belief of 343's pandering.
-More armor abilities
-I pretty sure there was going to be a gun shop, correct me if not
-Sprint for all players, because CoD obviously doesn't have that, if Halo implemented default sprint for all players after a handful of titles without it, it's obvious that 343 has no major issues
-Forerunner vision:
Call it X-ray vision with lag, so now the armor ability just doesn't make sense. We could sure use X-ray vision today, it's just that it's illegal, it causes cancer, so in the future they have lag? -_-
-For the first time in Halo, weapons will have alternating/dynamic spawn locations, which means players will have to remember the spawns of every single weapon on the map and check out each spawn before getting a sniper rifle.
-Oh can't forget, SPARTAN OPS
That's a great name a three-year old told to try and copy CoD's spec ops absolutely woudn't make. I expected at LEAST a good name, but what? You call it spartan ops?
WTF?
But, no, I thought the idea was nice. It's just the name. Spartan Ops. Ugh. But once again, it was a nice idea, weekly co-op episodic campaign, not too bad.
-*sigh*
And right!
Armor abilities can now be purchased through the store, we've been doing this all along... every single halo... nothing new, and I don't see anything related to CoD here.
-And, John's personality is confirmed to change throughout the campaign.
Most of this news is bad news to me, but fortunately not all.
Did I miss anything else?
[Edited on 05.02.2012 8:11 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792 I don't care much for MP. Maybe these changes would have interested me, maybe not. I pretty much lost interest though when they pulled another war with the Elites and Covenant right out their asses though.[/quote] Saw it coming from a mile away. I don't get why you are all acting so surprised about this.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792 I don't care much for MP. Maybe these changes would have interested me, maybe not. I pretty much lost interest though when they pulled another war with the Elites and Covenant right out their asses though.[/quote] Fighting a few Elites now = full scale war with Elites.[/quote] Well where else are they getting a fleet from? That and the fact that they just wrote a 300 page book about how peace is impossible. And their art direction is more in line with video game monster to shoot rather than an actual character that you would want to understand.
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OP wait to play it, Halo is a pretty major franchise for Microsoft they're not going to let it die like the Halo community wants. Whether or not your a fan of CoD it's a pretty important title in the entertainment industry since it's out grossing everything. CoD > Halo because it preys on addiction with new weapons and equipment. As a true Halo fan I cannot help but find myself wanting some incentive for all the hours I pour into every Halo game that comes out. I'm not sure if you guys have never played CoD or are just immune to the euphoria of rewards but I can guarantee what 343 is adding to Halo 4 will only sweeten Halo. As long as the core gameplay remains the same this will still be Halo. Be worried when they drop shields, vehicles, and grenades... Also if it sucks I'll see you all on XBConnect ;) [Edited on 05.03.2012 3:40 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 Halo has failed to generate any real hype for me. It just doesn't intreats me as much as it once has. That said, I don't have anything against it yet.[/quote] Dude, I COMPLETELY agree. 343's vidocs and trailers just don't generate hype. My only hope lies in what they will introduce at e3.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anton1792 I don't care much for MP. Maybe these changes would have interested me, maybe not. I pretty much lost interest though when they pulled another war with the Elites and Covenant right out their asses though.[/quote] Fighting a few Elites now = full scale war with Elites.[/quote] Well where else are they getting a fleet from? That and the fact that they just wrote a 300 page book about how peace is impossible. And their art direction is more in line with video game monster to shoot rather than an actual character that you would want to understand.[/quote] How big is the fleet? Why are they there? What purpose does the fleet's existence serve--are the rogues, rebels, scavengers, pirates or government? Is the Arbiter actually leading the enemy Elite forces? Will the ally Elites be in Halo 4? What has been going on in the past 5 years? Is Arbiter dead? Is Parangosky dead? Is Hood dead? Did ONI fail? What has this Ancient Evil been doing over these past 5 years? Could it have influenced galactic events? If ONI knows of the Didact within that five year time (Primordium) what role has he played? Who attacked Telcam and why? Until these questions can be answered--especially the size and nature of the Elite fleet, because as we already know, they are not equipped like government military--conclusions can not be jumped too.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pipboy 3050 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 Halo has failed to generate any real hype for me. It just doesn't intreats me as much as it once has. That said, I don't have anything against it yet.[/quote] Dude, I COMPLETELY agree. 343's vidocs and trailers just don't generate hype. My only hope lies in what they will introduce at e3. [/quote] It just doesn't feel new. Everything they have shown us before we have seen in one way or another. We see PvP in multiplayer, but none of the new additions. We see campaign pics, but we don't even know who the main antagonist is, only more covenant. We hear all about how great Spartan Ops will be but there hasn't even been a single picture from it.
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Get over it H4 isn't even out yet.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 LMFAO! Oh, you lot are a funny bunch. Halo has NEVER been an original concept in terms of general aesthetics and story. It's heavily derived from Larry Niven's [i]Ringworld[/i], which was in-turn based on Freeman's concept of a Dyson Sphere. The visuals are also incredibly similar to Cameron's [i]Aliens[/i], Johnson being a copypasta of Apone. As Oscar Wilde said: [i]"Talent borrows, genius steals."[/i] I see no reason why this cannot apply to gameplay in a series too, it's not like they're changing the core of Halo's gameplay either. Louis Wu, the godfather of Halo's community, sat down with 343i, played a few dozen games of Halo 4 and said that once you adjust to it it retains the same Halo feel as the original trilogy. Also, just look at Spartan Ops. It's a whole new campaign with its own cast, CG cutscenes, updates every week/month - it's an incredibly ambitious undertaking and no other FPS on the market has that kind of dedicated support to interweave everything into the fiction and keep adding more and more as a cooperative experience. Essentially, sit down and shut up. Change is what galvanises a series to keep it fresh, we can't go on the way we are - so overly ensconced in the formula we've had the past 10 years that we instantly reject any form of change. Frankly, people are just being single-minded and fickle.[/quote] This statement deserves an whole tray of cookies! This is the one thing that the narrow minded gamer NEVER considers! Can anyone of you remember what the best FPS on a console was BEFORE Halo? That's right, Goldeneye/Perfect Dark. They were the first ones (as far as I am aware) to incorporate the two control directional function (like a mouse and keyboard), the joy stick and the c-buttons. Xbox and Halo took that concept and adapted it to the two joystick controller and limited players to carrying two weapons, which in turn, forced players to plan out their actions. So games borrow from the most popular game before them and try and improve upon them. So 343 is doing the same thing as Bunige did before them. In this case the Call of Duty series has been the most popular with gamers the past five years. So 343 is taking ideas from that series and incorporating what they believe will bring players BACK to the Halo series as well as try and improve upon those ideas at the same time.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cowgoesmoo -And, John's personality is confirmed to change throughout the campaign.[/quote] What personality?
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Dude, I toally know how you feel I am so "depressed" that Halo 4 isn't coming out for another six months. Lol, but seriously, sounds like someone's got his panties in a bunch over nothing. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cowgoesmoo I certainly am, happily awaiting more information about Call of Halo 4.[/quote] Oh, get over yourself. [quote]-More armor abilities[/quote] And? There have always been additions to the "abilities." [quote]-Sprint for all players, because CoD obviously doesn't have that, if Halo implemented default sprint for all players after a handful of titles without it, it's obvious that 343 has no major issues[/quote] Right, because - of course - CoD invented sprinting. Canonically, Spartans can sprint. There's no reason that they should not be able to sprint in multiplayer as well; especially since they're trying to closer link canon with matchmaking. I can't count the number of times that in titles prior to Reach, I wished I could sprint to cover ground a little faster, if not for a little while. Now we can. If you don't like it, no one's twisting your arm to play it. [quote]-Forerunner vision:[/quote] I fail to see the issue. The mechanics have been briefly explained here, but even still it's no worse than having players who are near completely invisible wielding rockets. [quote]-For the first time in Halo, weapons will have alternating/dynamic spawn locations[/quote] So you've got to try harder now. Aww, poor you. [quote]-Oh can't forget, SPARTAN OPS[/quote] Which means Spartan Operations. An apt name, I think. They could have called it "Spartan Black Ops," which also would be apt, but then you'd be trying to remove your underwear from your small intestine it'd be in such a knot. Plus, are we even certain that Spartan Ops is the final name? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] YakZSmelk Halo is a pretty major franchise for Microsoft they're not going to [i][b]let it die like the Halo community wants.[/i][/b][/quote] Lol wut? It seems only the "MLG" and Matchmaking crowd are hedging on death and failure. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ImmortalJoshua [url=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--ekR6jG4Iwk/Tw4zvKN4RCI/AAAAAAAAAn0/IX-VBCUOUvs/s1600/didnt-read-lol-chicken-gif.gif]I know exactly how you feel[/url][/quote] I lol'd as well!
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Aslong as treyarch dont have anything to do with this game (joke intended on their inabilty on how well they make games) im waiting with baited breath. The BR being the biggest factor to make me smile.
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I'm really excited for it because they're leaning towards a more CoD style of gameplay but custom games BETTER be as good as or way above the custom games of Halo 3.
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I am. It won't be for the PC.
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i feel.. moist. anymore brain busters? bore the bored, i dare ya. /supppor.........
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Depressed? Dont buy it! Move on to something new. :)
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Actually, I want to see more of the game.
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No me gusta :/
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heh heh...Spartan Ops...really?
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you dont know what the f**k your talking about!
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I'm just playing campaign so I'm not depressed at all.
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I agree with most of what the OP says. I just over all hate it when some one else messes around with a person's (or in this case, a company's)original art work (Halo). Maybe if it was a side story within the Halo universe I'd feel a lot better about the game, but anyway, Halo 4 is happening and I might as well get over that. I do hate that Halo seems like it's turning into COD, but I'll reserve judgement on that until more info comes out. And about that whole Spartan OPs thing, yes, the name is horrible, and yes, it's highly unoriginal, but that's the gaming industry for you. Nothing is ever going to be completely original and that is fine. People need to realize that this has happened before ( with firefight and Horde mode in GOW), and it will continue happeneing.
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I'm not depressed about Halo 4. I don't care about Halo 4 and will ignore it as soon as it shipped. It's not because I think it will be a bad game it's because I know that it only exists because Microsoft wants it to exist. Maybe 343i are great developers, but in the end they are just a bunch of people that Microsoft engaged to squeeze more money out of the Halo franchise. That doesn't mean that I think Halo 4 will be bad, even if the average review score is 99 and a vast majority of the Halo fans from the first hour like it I won't buy it. If 343i are really that good then MS should have used them to create a new Xbox exclusive instead of producing more of Halo, Fable and Forza games. [Edited on 05.05.2012 11:44 AM PDT]
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From what I've heard, I believe you'r going to a planet where the Human-Covenant War is still going on. Like the Korean War, which never officially ended for the Koreas. The Marines and Covenenat there never got word the war was over. Luckily, you only have to deal with the remainder of the Covenenat. They aren't the unstoppable force they were before. Personally, I hope the Elites who left the Covenant return and they look like they did in Halo 3. I've seen pictures, but I'm not sure if those Elites are from the Covenant or something else. I guess we'll find out.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PhilWithFear P.S. Yeah, Spartan Ops... How original... =([/quote] Do some reading about it. You'll find that it actually is original.
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i think everyone saying halo 4 is like cod is just stupid. back in halo 3 everyone was crying because people could get shot by a whole clip and be barely alive and people could jump. everyone always said "its not realistic!!!!" bungie made halo reach realistic and everyone started crying about that. halo is halo and it will always be that, cod will never be close to halo in anyway. complain about people armor ability's? the more armor abilitys means that the game will be more mixed up then the basic armor lock jet pack sprint hologram and invis that are in every game. if there is the whole weapon layouts it will be very limited, because if it isnt everyone will just spawn with a sniper and shotty and camp the whole game, and about weapons changing spawns is great, then there would be nobody camping the power weapon spawns. in most games teams get stuck in a corner and cant get to anything, the changed spawns will make the game more fair. don't complain about a game you haven't even played yet. i did the same with reach, i thought abilitys would just be way over powered in reach but when i played online i found they are all very close in power.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] master piraka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PhilWithFear P.S. Yeah, Spartan Ops... How original... =([/quote] Do some reading about it. You'll find that it actually is original.[/quote] They mean the name, apparently CoD is the only time the terms Black OPs and Spec Ops have ever been used. The kids on the internet just keep getting dumber.
