[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 The reapers could of indoctrinated someone to do destroy the shield worlds from the inside before the array fired. [/quote] Yes...one person able to destroy millions of shield worlds spread across the whole milky way without ANYONE from the Halo verse knowing before its too late.

The reapers could of indoctrinated someone to do destroy the shield worlds from the inside before the array fired.

Put in the UNSC and Systems Alliance. A victory for the Systems Alliance. Count in Reapers and Forerunners, a Halo victory. Add Precursors... Destruction of Mass Effect Universe, 110%.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 Each Halo installation has a maximum effective range of 25,000 light-years. The method utilized by the array to conduct this "mass sterilization protocol" involves the superluminal conveyance of a burst of cross-phased super-massive neutrinos tuned to emit a harmonic frequency that destroys the nervous system of any life form within range. Simpler organisms lacking a neural system are unaffected, along with inanimate structures. Precursor technology, however, is extremely susceptible to damage from the Halo effect. The above quote is from halopedia page for the halo array (The sources are on the page). I'm also pretty sure that that synthetics wont have nervous systems.[/quote] Well then I guess the Geth and reapers would have to face off against trillions of Onyx sentinels. 49 of which can kill a covenant ship with ease.[/quote] Don't forget the shield world was still creating more then Kurt and them stopped it, also as I pointed out that was one shield world and for all we know there could be millions of shield worlds.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 Each Halo installation has a maximum effective range of 25,000 light-years. The method utilized by the array to conduct this "mass sterilization protocol" involves the superluminal conveyance of a burst of cross-phased super-massive neutrinos tuned to emit a harmonic frequency that destroys the nervous system of any life form within range. Simpler organisms lacking a neural system are unaffected, along with inanimate structures. Precursor technology, however, is extremely susceptible to damage from the Halo effect. The above quote is from halopedia page for the halo array (The sources are on the page). I'm also pretty sure that that synthetics wont have nervous systems.[/quote] Well then I guess the Geth and reapers would have to face off against trillions of Onyx sentinels. 49 of which can kill a covenant ship with ease.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chester Duncan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 ME, No contest. I picture it going two ways. 1.Mass effect distracts halo while the reapers work in the shadows, using the collectors to create more reapers. The reapers indoctrinate key people in the halo universe to sabotage their plans. Forerunners fire the halos out of desperation and destroy all sentient life. The Reapers being synthetic survive the firing along with the Geth and all of the synthetics created in previous cycles. All they have to do is pick off the survivors and Finnish of the sentinels and they've won. 2. Reapers Indoctrinate Forerunners and Humans and make them activate the halos. The blast catches the halo universe by surprise and all they have to do is pick of stragglers. [/quote] Precursors walk in and crush the Reapers like bugs. ME loses. Absolutely no contest when in opposition with the Precursors. BARRING PRECURSORS Even if the Reapers indoctrinate the Forerunners and activate the Halos, the Reapers would die (Organic/Synthetic hybrids). Leaving the geth and Onyx Sentinels. The Geth get the crap beaten out of them. Seeing as though all the tech from other civilizations were only about as advanced as the geth, Halo stomps ME. Trillions of Onyx sentinels fly in and blow the crap out of the Galaxy. Whoop dee fracking doo. [/quote] The number of sentinels Onxy could make was google x google x google. I mean it only built them for what? 2 weeks? and even if ME guys say that thats only so many....think about it, Onxy was only [b] ONE [/b] shield world out of maybe millions.[/quote] And think about it. Considering Precursors were impervious to EVERYTHING but the Halo array, wouldn't it be IMPOSSIBLE for the ME universe to win?[/quote] I agree. I mean the forerunners alone in number must have been in the trillions. I read somewhere that the flood attacked one planet and only .1% made it out and if I remember correctly that was 100,000 forerunners that only counted for [b] .1% of one world [/b] and the fourerunners had thousands of worlds.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 Each Halo installation has a maximum effective range of 25,000 light-years. The method utilized by the array to conduct this "mass sterilization protocol" involves the superluminal conveyance of a burst of cross-phased super-massive neutrinos tuned to emit a harmonic frequency that destroys the nervous system of any life form within range. Simpler organisms lacking a neural system are unaffected, along with inanimate structures. Precursor technology, however, is extremely susceptible to damage from the Halo effect. The above quote is from halopedia page for the halo array (The sources are on the page). I'm also pretty sure that that synthetics wont have nervous systems.[/quote] Reapers are organic/synthetic hybrids. They're screwed. And Precursors are still invincible to ANYTHING else. The Halo array is their only weakness. And ME has nothing rivalling that.

Each Halo installation has a maximum effective range of 25,000 light-years. The method utilized by the array to conduct this "mass sterilization protocol" involves the superluminal conveyance of a burst of cross-phased super-massive neutrinos tuned to emit a harmonic frequency that destroys the nervous system of any life form within range. Simpler organisms lacking a neural system are unaffected, along with inanimate structures. Precursor technology, however, is extremely susceptible to damage from the Halo effect. The above quote is from halopedia page for the halo array (The sources are on the page). I'm also pretty sure that that synthetics wont have nervous systems.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chester Duncan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 ME, No contest. I picture it going two ways. 1.Mass effect distracts halo while the reapers work in the shadows, using the collectors to create more reapers. The reapers indoctrinate key people in the halo universe to sabotage their plans. Forerunners fire the halos out of desperation and destroy all sentient life. The Reapers being synthetic survive the firing along with the Geth and all of the synthetics created in previous cycles. All they have to do is pick off the survivors and Finnish of the sentinels and they've won. 2. Reapers Indoctrinate Forerunners and Humans and make them activate the halos. The blast catches the halo universe by surprise and all they have to do is pick of stragglers. [/quote] Precursors walk in and crush the Reapers like bugs. ME loses. Absolutely no contest when in opposition with the Precursors. BARRING PRECURSORS Even if the Reapers indoctrinate the Forerunners and activate the Halos, the Reapers would die (Organic/Synthetic hybrids). Leaving the geth and Onyx Sentinels. The Geth get the crap beaten out of them. Seeing as though all the tech from other civilizations were only about as advanced as the geth, Halo stomps ME. Trillions of Onyx sentinels fly in and blow the crap out of the Galaxy. Whoop dee fracking doo. [/quote] The number of sentinels Onxy could make was google x google x google. I mean it only built them for what? 2 weeks? and even if ME guys say that thats only so many....think about it, Onxy was only [b] ONE [/b] shield world out of maybe millions.[/quote] And think about it. Considering Precursors were impervious to EVERYTHING but the Halo array, wouldn't it be IMPOSSIBLE for the ME universe to win?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 ME, No contest. I picture it going two ways. 1.Mass effect distracts halo while the reapers work in the shadows, using the collectors to create more reapers. The reapers indoctrinate key people in the halo universe to sabotage their plans. Forerunners fire the halos out of desperation and destroy all sentient life. The Reapers being synthetic survive the firing along with the Geth and all of the synthetics created in previous cycles. All they have to do is pick off the survivors and Finnish of the sentinels and they've won. 2. Reapers Indoctrinate Forerunners and Humans and make them activate the halos. The blast catches the halo universe by surprise and all they have to do is pick of stragglers. [/quote] Precursors walk in and crush the Reapers like bugs. ME loses. Absolutely no contest when in opposition with the Precursors. BARRING PRECURSORS Even if the Reapers indoctrinate the Forerunners and activate the Halos, the Reapers would die (Organic/Synthetic hybrids). Leaving the geth and Onyx Sentinels. The Geth get the crap beaten out of them. Seeing as though all the tech from other civilizations were only about as advanced as the geth, Halo stomps ME. Trillions of Onyx sentinels fly in and blow the crap out of the Galaxy. Whoop dee fracking doo. [/quote] The number of sentinels Onxy could make was google x google x google. I mean it only built them for what? 2 weeks? and even if ME guys say that thats only so many....think about it, Onxy was only [b] ONE [/b] shield world out of maybe millions.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 ME, No contest. I picture it going two ways. 1.Mass effect distracts halo while the reapers work in the shadows, using the collectors to create more reapers. The reapers indoctrinate key people in the halo universe to sabotage their plans. Forerunners fire the halos out of desperation and destroy all sentient life. The Reapers being synthetic survive the firing along with the Geth and all of the synthetics created in previous cycles. All they have to do is pick off the survivors and Finnish of the sentinels and they've won. 2. Reapers Indoctrinate Forerunners and Humans and make them activate the halos. The blast catches the halo universe by surprise and all they have to do is pick of stragglers. [/quote] Precursors walk in and crush the Reapers like bugs. ME loses. Absolutely no contest when in opposition with the Precursors. BARRING PRECURSORS Even if the Reapers indoctrinate the Forerunners and activate the Halos, the Reapers would die (Organic/Synthetic hybrids). Leaving the geth and Onyx Sentinels. The Geth get the crap beaten out of them. Seeing as though all the tech from other civilizations were only about as advanced as the geth, Halo stomps ME. Trillions of Onyx sentinels fly in and blow the crap out of the Galaxy. Whoop dee fracking doo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLAZIKEN 1111 ME, No contest. I picture it going two ways. 1.Mass effect distracts halo while the reapers work in the shadows, using the collectors to create more reapers. The reapers indoctrinate key people in the halo universe to sabotage their plans. Forerunners fire the halos out of desperation and destroy all sentient life. The Reapers being synthetic survive the firing along with the Geth and all of the synthetics created in previous cycles. All they have to do is pick off the survivors and Finnish of the sentinels and they've won. 2. Reapers Indoctrinate Forerunners and Humans and make them activate the halos. The blast catches the halo universe by surprise and all they have to do is pick of stragglers. [/quote] Wrong. The rings can destroy the Reapers and the geth and so on. Also all they have to do is send one fleet of forerunners to take out all of ME.

ME, No contest. I picture it going two ways. 1.Mass effect distracts halo while the reapers work in the shadows, using the collectors to create more reapers. The reapers indoctrinate key people in the halo universe to sabotage their plans. Forerunners fire the halos out of desperation and destroy all sentient life. The Reapers being synthetic survive the firing along with the Geth and all of the synthetics created in previous cycles. All they have to do is pick off the survivors and Finnish of the sentinels and they've won. 2. Reapers Indoctrinate Forerunners and Humans and make them activate the halos. The blast catches the halo universe by surprise and all they have to do is pick of stragglers.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPC COMMANDO Covenant Super Carrier is 28 Kilometers long compared to a Sovereign class Reaper's 2 kilometers. Halo wins /thread.[/quote] LOL

Covenant Super Carrier is 28 Kilometers long compared to a Sovereign class Reaper's 2 kilometers. Halo wins /thread.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Makko Mace It would be like trying to shoot God to death....[/quote] But imagine how awesome you would feel after you win...

So, you remember the fire power of the Onyx sentinels when three or four of them combined? What would happen if all of the Onyx sentinels combined? Also, about the power of Cortana, you all read the power of the Gravemind, right? Cortana was able to withstand torture from that thing. And there are many AI on the same level as Cortana.

The Reapers had a makeshift on/off button. Assuming that the Reapers are one of the most advance species in the Mass Effect Universe, couldn't they simply be turned 'off', meaning that the threat of the Reapers would have been destroyed. Leaving much less advanced civilisaitions to battle with the rest of the Haloverse.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kitten2012[/quote] I am starting to suspect you're trolling. You are not listening to any of the counter arguments so let me list them out to make it easier for you. 1) Precursors and Graveminds are not technological demigods, they [i]are[/i] gods. At least demigods. Their minds are [i]not normal.[/i] They have evolved passed the stage of sentience and exist on a completely unrecognizable cognitive plane of awareness. You keep thinking that because they are still flesh, they are susceptible to indoctrination. Even if they were, it would take so long, and be so overly complicated that by the time even the beginnings of indoctrination took place the Reapers would be free floating molecules. 2) The Gravemind is not a single being, it [i]is[/i] the Flood. The creature in Halo 2 is an organ it was using to speak to Chief and Arbiter, but the Mind itself is the Flood. It has no one single creature to kill, not unless it is a proto-Gravemind. There is no individuality, there is no animal creature that you think the Flood are. Imagine being in control of trillions of bodies as if they were your own at all time. That is what the Graveminds feel, and what transsentience allows. He does not coordinate his armies, he is the army. 3) The nature of the Precursors' exodus is completely unknown, but the most reasonable theory suggests that the Forerunners simply got a hold of the Precursors' weaponry. Under your logic, the Reapers could defeat the Q continuum because the drastically inferior USS Voyager crew defeated them once using their own weapons. It would have to be, because like the Q, the Precursors are effectively invunerable to all forms of weaponry barring their own technology. How you imagine any of the races of Mass Effect to handle them is beyond me.[/quote] I also highly doubt that the Forerunners actually defeated them. I just don't see any way they could. My guess is that the Precursors simply left so they could observe the Galaxy's reaction to the Flood. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] razzat Lol if we're up against precursors in any future halo game we're -blam!-[/quote] That's why I want to fight Precursors in the new trilogy. They seem like such awesome enemies to fight. And victory over them would be satisfying as hell.[/quote] John would get ROFLstomped by a Precursor. If they're as powerful as people say they are a single Precursor could stomp the UNSC and the Covenant at once.[/quote] I know he would get "ROFLstomped" by a Precursor. But that's the awesome part. That sense of ridiculously impossible odds. They would make brilliant, awe invoking enemies.[/quote] It would be like trying to shoot God to death....

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kitten2012[/quote] I am starting to suspect you're trolling. You are not listening to any of the counter arguments so let me list them out to make it easier for you. 1) Precursors and Graveminds are not technological demigods, they [i]are[/i] gods. At least demigods. Their minds are [i]not normal.[/i] They have evolved passed the stage of sentience and exist on a completely unrecognizable cognitive plane of awareness. You keep thinking that because they are still flesh, they are susceptible to indoctrination. Even if they were, it would take so long, and be so overly complicated that by the time even the beginnings of indoctrination took place the Reapers would be free floating molecules. 2) The Gravemind is not a single being, it [i]is[/i] the Flood. The creature in Halo 2 is an organ it was using to speak to Chief and Arbiter, but the Mind itself is the Flood. It has no one single creature to kill, not unless it is a proto-Gravemind. There is no individuality, there is no animal creature that you think the Flood are. Imagine being in control of trillions of bodies as if they were your own at all time. That is what the Graveminds feel, and what transsentience allows. He does not coordinate his armies, he is the army. 3) The nature of the Precursors' exodus is completely unknown, but the most reasonable theory suggests that the Forerunners simply got a hold of the Precursors' weaponry. Under your logic, the Reapers could defeat the Q continuum because the drastically inferior USS Voyager crew defeated them once using their own weapons. It would have to be, because like the Q, the Precursors are effectively invunerable to all forms of weaponry barring their own technology. How you imagine any of the races of Mass Effect to handle them is beyond me.[/quote] I also highly doubt that the Forerunners actually defeated them. I just don't see any way they could. My guess is that the Precursors simply left so they could observe the Galaxy's reaction to the Flood. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] razzat Lol if we're up against precursors in any future halo game we're -blam!-[/quote] That's why I want to fight Precursors in the new trilogy. They seem like such awesome enemies to fight. And victory over them would be satisfying as hell.[/quote] John would get ROFLstomped by a Precursor. If they're as powerful as people say they are a single Precursor could stomp the UNSC and the Covenant at once.[/quote] I know he would get "ROFLstomped" by a Precursor. But that's the awesome part. That sense of ridiculously impossible odds. They would make brilliant, awe invoking enemies. [Edited on 05.12.2012 10:22 AM PDT]

Graveminds are not godlike. Precursors were. I never got the idea that Graveminds are Precursors. Sure the Timeless One might have been a superenhanced Gravemind, but I think it was never really a Precursor- rather the oldest Gravemind created by the Precursors. Holy bloody -blam!-, the ME fanboys are STILL arguing this? You guys ACTUALLY think the Reapers or the race that the Star Child comes from would have ANY effect on the Precursors? Could they travel galaxies in seconds, create indestructible constructs (Indestructible to everything besides the Halo array), and devolve/evolve life? Also, because Precursor tech operates on Neural Physics, which basically joins inanimate and living material together, wouldn't that mean that every Precursor contruct is it's own sentience? There is not a single race in ME that could even hold a candle to the Precursors as of yet. That is a fact. [Edited on 05.12.2012 10:17 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] darthnazgul The Mass Effect universe has countless civilizations, most of which we haven't seen.[/quote] All of whom, it is evidenced, reached the same technological point of the Protheans/current races. Sovereign states that by using the technology, the races develop down the paths they desire - therefore using the tech the Reapers left behind, they all go along the same scale of technological advancement. With Halo, this isn't the case. Precursors had [i]'immortal'[/i] technology that could only be destroyed by the Halos on a certain frequency because of the use of neural physics. A single Forerunner fortress-class ship is 100km long and 10km wide, a Sovereign-class Reaper is about 3km long. Given that the Reapers are the most advanced race in ME lore, there's absolutely no way they stand a chance.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef Halo would win. Why? Turian Councilor: Ah yes, "Flood". The immortal race of sentient parasites allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed that claim.[/quote] Lol.

Halo would win. Why? Turian Councilor: Ah yes, "Flood". The immortal race of sentient parasites allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed that claim.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TopWargamer Let's all remember that the ME universe has Reapers. That being said, I dunno. Hard decision. [/quote] No. The UNSC and Covenant could have taken the Reapers.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II It's a known fact their material is indestructible to anything but a Halo ring. They build bridges that spanned entire starsystems. No normal material could do something like that.[/quote] Obviously not if an exploding ship can destroy a whole Halo. [quote]Precursor material isn't the same as normal materials like diamond or titanium, it's something beyond our understanding.[/quote] This proves nothing of it's durability.[/quote] -What does that has to do with Precuror material? -Irrelevant, the demonstrated feats do.