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8/17/2011 9:06:05 PM
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Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?

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  • I remember some one from Bungie saying you can count all the Bungie guys at 343 on one hand.

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  • Shishka works for Certain Affinity, they've created maps for Bungie ever since Halo 2. EDIT: They are now creating maps for 343 Industries, Obviously [Edited on 08.27.2011 5:31 AM PDT]

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    • Dude, you spelled futer wrong. OT: I heard some rumors that OLD Bungie employees were working at 343 but ass long as the next Halos are good it's ok. And I bet Bungie's next game is going to be awesome.

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    • Can't believe Vic DeLeon jumped ship...

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] machinimagames [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos No. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] Frankie did.[/quote] Did frankie actually WORK for them though? I know they also got Shishka but still.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos No. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] Frankie did.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambusher Shishka works for Certain Affinity, they've created maps for Bungie ever since Halo 2. EDIT: They are now creating maps for 343 Industries, Obviously[/quote] Apparently not. On the BTS Multiplayer ViDoc., 343 Industries was next to his name, not Certain Affinity like the other CA employees.

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    • .... [Edited on 08.27.2011 7:17 AM PDT]

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    • Seriously, I wonder how many people everyone actually thinks works at Bungie. We know/interact with maybe 3-4 of them. I'd guess for every 1 Bungie Employee we see on the forums, there are 10-12 that we have no idea exists.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ArmourElite Frankie - obviously Shishka - possibly Sketch - Doubt it That's all I know.[/quote] Did we ever find out what happened to sketch? Is he still with bungie?

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Flaming Lemon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos No. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] Doesn't that just say it right there?[/quote] Ewwwwww. You dug it up, but it's all stinky and half rotten.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos No. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] Doesn't that just say it right there?

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Zero Vic DeLeon Chad Armstrong Frank O'Connor Not really quite a few. Fun Fact: 343i has more people from Pandemic Studios than Bungie Studios. [/quote] [url=http://stickerish.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Jackiechan-1024x771.jpg]Frankie wasn't a bungie employee. He was a big part of the community but never got a paycheck signed by stosh.[/url][/quote][/quote] I was joking SJ. I'm not that dumb.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Zero Vic DeLeon Chad Armstrong Frank O'Connor Not really quite a few. Fun Fact: 343i has more people from Pandemic Studios than Bungie Studios. [/quote] [url=http://stickerish.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Jackiechan-1024x771.jpg]Frankie wasn't a bungie employee. He was a big part of the community but never got a paycheck signed by stosh.[/url][/quote]

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Zero Vic DeLeon Chad Armstrong Frank O'Connor Not really quite a few. Fun Fact: 343i has more people from Pandemic Studios than Bungie Studios. [/quote] Frankie wasn't a bungie employee. He was a big part of the community but never got a paycheck signed by stosh.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn Why are you so intent on arguing with the only person in this thread [i]that works at Bungie so therefore knows a lot more than any of us?[/i][/quote] It might be fun.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ArmourElite [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos Yes [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] Fixed.[/quote]Why are you so intent on arguing with the only person in this thread [i]that works at Bungie so therefore knows a lot more than any of us?[/i] I've done my research and there are VERY FEW people who have worked at Bungie who are now at 343. Look at that list. It's filled with mostly contractors. The thing about contractors is that they work through agencies; it isn't the same deal. There are 2 core people that worked on Halo games that are at 343, and that's it. Everyone else was either a producer or a marketeer; neither of which have any jobs that actually have hands-on content-creation for the games itself. So stop fighting the flow and accept it: Halo is now in the hands of a team of people, 95%~ of which are entirely new to developing Halo.

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    • Nathan Walpole was also at 343 for a time, if I am not mistaken.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos Yes [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] Fixed.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos No. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote]Nice one Achronos, but you're not fooling me.

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    • Guess I'll repost this here too: [quote][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=64668398][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn[/url] I did some research: [quote]People I know from Bungie who are at 343i: [quote][b]Frank O'Connor [Frankie][/b] 2003-2008 Full Time Bungie's "Face" between 2003 and 2008 - wrote articles Bungie.net about Halo 2/3, and answered questions about Bungie and Halo to the press. Now the Franchise Development Director at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Chad Armstrong [Shishka][/b] 2004-2007, 2008-2010 Contract/Full-Time Long-term contract worker from 2004 who worked on marketing material, Halo 2's attract (menu) video. He left Bungie in 2007 to join Certain Affinity. Then returned to Bungie in 2008 as a Playlist Designer. Then in 2010 he was suddenly no longer a part of Bungie. 343i picked him up as a "Designer".[/quote][quote][b]Vic DeLeon[/b] ~2004-2010 Full Time Environment Artist at Bungie working since Halo 2 up until Halo Reach. Is an all around cool guy. I've met Vic a couple times and he's a really genuine guy. He's currently a Lead Mission Artist at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Matthew Burns[/b] ~2007-2009 Full Time Producer at Bungie for Halo 3 and ODST. Now Contract Producer at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Greg Snook[/b] ~2004-2007 Full Time Programmer at Bungie. Worked on Halo 2 and Halo 3. Now Lead Animation Programmer at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Justin Yorke[/b] Full Time Server Engineer at Bungie. Now Software Design Engineer at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Carlos N.[/b] Full Time Associate Producer at Bungie. Now Content Coordinator at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Patrick Gillette[/b] 2009-2010 Contractor Contract Animator for Bungie from 2009 until 2010. Now Contract Animator for 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Jesse Hall[/b] Contractor Contract 3D Artist at Bungie. Now Contract Environment artist at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Will Christiansen[/b] Contractor Contract Animator for Bungie. Became Contract Animator for 343i. Now full-time Animator for 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Donnie Taylor[/b] Contractor Contract Artist at Bungie. Now Environment Artist at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Dan Callan[/b] Contractor Tester at Bungie. Now Mission Designer at 343i.[/quote][quote][b]Eric K.[/b] Contractor Tester at Bungie. Now tester at 343i.[/quote][quote]*All found on LinkedIn[/quote][/quote] Out of the 13 people listed above, there are 6 contractors listed. That's 7 full-time people from Bungie. Worked on Halo 2? That's 4. How many of that 4 worked directly on the game's content (and not marketing)? That's 2; Vic DeLeon and Greg Snook. There are 70+ people working at 343 Industries. 2 prominent Bungie employees is only 2.85% of the whole company. [quote][/quote] Whilst that is a sizable list, bear in mind that a lot of these guys were not at Bungie for very long (and certainly none of them worked on Halo 1) and those who were weren't all in-game content creators. I'd personally say only Vic DeLeon and Greg Snook are the only two guys from Bungie at 343i currently, on that list, that were at Bungie long enough to actually make a sizable impact on the series. In conclusion, no, there aren't "mainly Bungie staff" but there are, at least, a few people that 343i have picked up who have done something at Bungie over the years. Prominent or important? Not as much as you'd think.[/quote] [Edited on 08.17.2011 4:24 PM PDT]

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Zero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC Master [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 Bungie is stil ~300 employees strong. No worries.[/quote] Wut? Last I heard there were about 150 of them. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Zero Fun Fact: 343i has more people from Pandemic Studios than Bungie Studios. [/quote] REALLY? I liked Pandemic :) [/quote] Yep! And you know what's more awesome? They have the lead designers of the Metroid Prime trilogy, which would be the guys from Retro Studios. Also Bungie has roughly 200 employees. [/quote] I didn't realize that 343 had this amount of experience.

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    • 3. 3 former Bungie employees went to 343. Achronos has said that multiple times. I don't want to sound like a douche-bag, but can we please let this topic rest now? lol

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to work for 343 Industries?[/quote]I wonder if slightly rephrasing the question changes the answer?

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos No. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TACTIFUL KILL Is it true that quite a few Bungie employees went to 343 Industries to work on future Halo games?[/quote][/quote] If you're being serious...I don't understand? Frankie obviously did and possibly Shishka.

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    • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Little Moa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lime013 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Little Moa I remember a Bungie Employee commented on this at one points, he said that, yes, some Bungie members quit to go work at 343i but there are not as many as people are thinking there is. Give or take, less than 20.[/quote] I am pretty sure 4 went in, but sources have said less than five, so either 3 or 4 or 3. Take 16. Less than 5 went in. [/quote] lolmath[/quote]

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