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8/4/2011 9:36:34 PM
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Complete game Speculation, and a thanks to Bungie.
I just finished watching the ViDoc, and sadly I was interrupted multiple times due to the fact that I was on a family computer. I would just like Bungie to know that this was a great wrap up of their business and history. This showed that unlike other "certain" companies who build games, they are [i]the[/i] producers of worlds and breakthroughs. They know what is best, because they listen to their fans. They will produce what they know will be something big. I look up to the founders of the company, and everyone else who came along throughout the journey. I would love to become some part of this company, but I am only a 17 year old and have far too long of a journey to get ahold of the chance to join them.
To Bungie:
I hope that this game will reveal itself in the not too distant future, and that you will blow each mind away. You're little sneak peak at the end shows a bit of what is coming and somewhat confirms our thoughts and rumors. It is incredible. The design and heart we all know that is being put into this game is miraculous! I wish to design and create something as well as you have, because I realize the difficulty that it must take. I welcome this new world, and am curious what these symbols and words floating around must mean :) Per Audacia Ad Astra!
And don't doubt, or fear, just please push past that. The remainder of your active fans have faith in you. Let's game change.
[url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/j.png]New theme and symbol.[/url]
[url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/a.png]Picture of New World (?)[/url]
[url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/g.png]Picture of New World 2 (?)[/url]
[url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/c.png]Picture of New World 3 (?)[/url]
[url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/b.png]Sample of Bungie's Pure Creation Power.[/url]
Oh, and is "Tiger" their new code name for the game? It was mentioned once or twice and it seemed to hint that they were talking about the game.
[url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/t.png](Codename Tiger somewhat confirmed)[/url]
Bungie has a list of seven goals, all completed except for the last which needs to be checked. [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/bungie-illuminati-world-domination-7-step-plan.jpg](Link to picture.)[/url] The last goal states that they want to take over the world. Considering it is far beyond their power to take over this world, I assume they are going to create the most powerful video game world, and rule it. The conversation below shows how.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKCII
[url=http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee199/musicman247/blurrypic1.jpg]Blurry Pic of stuff Bungie doesn't want us to see yet #1[/url]
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[quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca
In fact if we look at the two pictures on the left the focus of both are two very different mountains....or in fact buildings.Also the bottom right picture appears to have a column in the forefront and a building in the background. Unfortunately the top right picture is,well to bright and blurred to see anything.[/quote]
[quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master
The top left looks to me like the color scheme of a beach, and the top right the scheme of snow and cold. The bottom right seems to be more dry, average dirt, and evergreens. And the bottom left seems like pure desert.[/quote]
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca
Which while im on a roll (Assuming that each of these environments does have a building in them)fits with what was found here. If you read through that site you will in fact find that bungie have made copyrights of 4 names:
FWC(standing for future war council or something along the lines), Seven Seraphs, New Monarchy, Osiris, and Dead Orbit now each of these is believed to have their own shirt as shown on that site.
This leads me to believe that these are the names of 4 different factions and what I believe we are seeing in that picture is the 4 faction bases. However it's just a guess they may not be factions at all and I could be jumping the gun a bit. [/quote]
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master
You listed above 5 names that will most likely be faction bases. 4 will most likely make an appearance. But when I looked at a site, it had Bungie wearing multiple FWC shirts.[/quote]
This is what I think, in an MMO in space, with multiple worlds and bases, I think that we will have our four main bases, and Bungie's head FWC base. Wouldn't it make sense for them to make their own world that is the most powerful and the main base?[/quote]
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca
Oh yeah I did put down five I was excited my bad :D
I believe you are correct in your assumption a MMOFPS inspired by planetside I would guess. It seems to me that players would pick one out of the four factions and the FWC would be a kind governing body to ensure everything runs smoothly.[/quote][/quote]
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As for the symbols and logo's of each new world, here is a link so you can see the pictures. All are official, not exact, but official. These have been spotted in multiple places.
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b]Drakonous
For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category)
[url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url]
Now for those who wanted higher resolution images of the symbols here ya go...
[url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbolHD.png]Destiny Symbol[/url]
[url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DeadOrbitSymbolHD.png]Dead Orbit Symbol[/url]
[url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/NewMonarchySymbolHD.png]New Monarchy[/url]
[url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/OsirisSymbolHD.pngOsiris]Osiris Symbol[/url]
[url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/SevenSeraphsSymbolHD.png]Seven Seraphs Symbol[/url][/quote]
For those of you who are also wondering, "What is the point of speculating and trying to figure out if Bungie won't say anything?" Well, although they won't say anything in the near future, here is a picture giving us the suggestion that on 2012's Bungie Day we will know much, much more.
[url]http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ticket3.jpg[/url]
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b]master piraka
It was a ticket that was sent to seven random bungie.net members who signed up for the Beta program I think.
They are to be held until the "time is right"[/quote]
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New Theory:
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iROACH
dont think im tripping, just give it a chance.
look at the pictures we were able to see clearly. mountains, the sun rising and ... A FREAKING WINDMILL. (even with a wired connection.)
and bungie is hiring an economy artist...
maybe this game is (also?) about powering citys and alike. using what that planet has in offer. water, wind, sun and stuff like that.
and if u think about it combat-wise that would mean that those different factions could harass each other by destroying the opponents power supply.
just imagine an MMOFPS (yea i try to believe those rumors) with like 5 different factions each with their own city which gets basically built by us and powered by us. the factions fighting over a specific mountain region because of the heavy wind going through there or a river to power a watermill like thing.[/quote]
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous
iROACH interesting theory. I think it would be fun to use a power source or fight over it. Think of what that could mean...
-Constant conflict among enemy players/factions
-Possible tapping into enemy sources to restore power to your equipment.
-Starting new sources of power to allow for the development of a settlement or base of operations.[/quote]
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[Edited on 08.08.2011 8:39 AM PDT]
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I think that this is pointing more towards mmo. The job is an "economy designer" which to me implies designing an entire in game economy like that found in an mmo. Plus Bungie has confirmed that it is an action mmo. ([url=http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/halo-reach/news/bungie-confirms-next-project-is-an-action-mmo/a-201103049515421098/g-2009060110582402047]article on it here[/url]) Just to add my speculation, I think it will be a cross platform mmo between the 360 and PS3 which would be ridiculously ambitious and that is what Bungie keeps saying is how ambitious their next project is.
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I think that this is pointing more towards mmo. The job is an "economy designer" which to me implies designing an entire in game economy like that found in an mmo. Plus Bungie has confirmed that it is an action mmo. ([url=http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/halo-reach/news/bungie-confirms-next-project-is-an-action-mmo/a-201103049515421098/g-2009060110582402047]article on it here[/url]) Just to add my speculation, I think it will be a cross platform mmo between the 360 and PS3 which would be ridiculously ambitious and that is what Bungie keeps saying is how ambitious their next project is.
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A true MMO on a console, that sounds crazy.
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I don't think it will be a true mmo it will likely be a lighter mmo focused more on action than the mmo side of things. But with Bungie at the helm they may do something incredibly unique.
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That doesn't sound quite like an MMO to me... Mostly baseless speculation. From the quotes they were using, I'm getting the idea that it could be a game that maintains it's state in a "cloud" system so you can continue progress across platforms... If it IS an MMO, this could be interesting, because it could mean cross platform multiplayer...
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I know what it is. It is pretty obvious when you think about it. It is going to be a non-traditional MMO, and Bungie will NOT call it an MMO. They will call it something else. From some of the screens in the PP presentation you can clearly understand that the game will have "time of day" that will actually be time of day, not just a changing sky box. The planet you are on will actually be spinning and the sun will not be the one that moves. Bungie is trying to not do "photo-realism" but do actual realism. If you leave the planet you can see the atmosphere from above just like a real game. That is obviously where they are heading. They are trying to make a game that feels real. That's why they are working on the graphics so much and are hiring an "Economy Designer". They don't want to make a photo-realistic game like say, Mass Effect 3, where everything looks real but it isn't. EVERYTHING will be real and authentic. They want to make the economy to feel real as well, which means they want you to think the world is completely real. I could bet my ass that the game world will have a rich history that seems very realistic. That's why they will be going for an MMO, to have not just the world be real, but the people in it too. They will probably call their genre a FRG (Fully Realistic Game) or something like that. Their objective is to make an actual living real world inside the console/computer. People will probably get jobs assigned to them, and people will be able to marry and buy a house. And people will be able to die. And when you die you start over again. How they are going to put the "Action Adventure" title into this game I don't know. But this is what I think their vision was when they began to create this game. Realism.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TarranzKnights A true MMO on a console, that sounds crazy.[/quote] DCUO I don't know how successful but it worked from what I have been told. I personally am hoping to not get an MMO because I fear the subscription fee
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alienmassacare I know what it is. It is pretty obvious when you think about it. It is going to be a non-traditional MMO, and Bungie will NOT call it an MMO. They will call it something else. From some of the screens in the PP presentation you can clearly understand that the game will have "time of day" that will actually be time of day, not just a changing sky box. The planet you are on will actually be spinning and the sun will not be the one that moves. Bungie is trying to not do "photo-realism" but do actual realism. If you leave the planet you can see the atmosphere from above just like a real game. That is obviously where they are heading. They are trying to make a game that feels real. That's why they are working on the graphics so much and are hiring an "Economy Designer". They don't want to make a photo-realistic game like say, Mass Effect 3, where everything looks real but it isn't. EVERYTHING will be real and authentic. They want to make the economy to feel real as well, which means they want you to think the world is completely real. I could bet my ass that the game world will have a rich history that seems very realistic. That's why they will be going for an MMO, to have not just the world be real, but the people in it too. They will probably call their genre a FRG (Fully Realistic Game) or something like that. Their objective is to make an actual living real world inside the console/computer. People will probably get jobs assigned to them, and people will be able to marry and buy a house. And people will be able to die. And when you die you start over again. How they are going to put the "Action Adventure" title into this game I don't know. But this is what I think their vision was when they began to create this game. Realism.[/quote] Hmm interesting concept, I like it. Though I doubt heavily death is permanent. In a video game that kind of thing never works out well for games (to my knowledge). Other then that I agree entirely with your idea.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alienmassacare I know what it is. It is pretty obvious when you think about it. It is going to be a non-traditional MMO, and Bungie will NOT call it an MMO. They will call it something else. From some of the screens in the PP presentation you can clearly understand that the game will have "time of day" that will actually be time of day, not just a changing sky box. The planet you are on will actually be spinning and the sun will not be the one that moves. Bungie is trying to not do "photo-realism" but do actual realism. If you leave the planet you can see the atmosphere from above just like a real game. That is obviously where they are heading. They are trying to make a game that feels real. That's why they are working on the graphics so much and are hiring an "Economy Designer". They don't want to make a photo-realistic game like say, Mass Effect 3, where everything looks real but it isn't. EVERYTHING will be real and authentic. They want to make the economy to feel real as well, which means they want you to think the world is completely real. I could bet my ass that the game world will have a rich history that seems very realistic. That's why they will be going for an MMO, to have not just the world be real, but the people in it too. They will probably call their genre a FRG (Fully Realistic Game) or something like that. Their objective is to make an actual living real world inside the console/computer. People will probably get jobs assigned to them, and people will be able to marry and buy a house. And people will be able to die. And when you die you start over again. How they are going to put the "Action Adventure" title into this game I don't know. But this is what I think their vision was when they began to create this game. Realism.[/quote] So there making a 1,000,000 times better Fable?
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Awesome thread. I'm getting really super pumped for Bungie's new project!!!
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I noticed this in O Brave New World.. did anyone point it out yet? "Grognok build 2693 (built today") during some of the teaser clips of what they're working on. [url]http://i.imgur.com/BUH4r.jpg[/url] name/codename or name of a world/region/level or something? [Edited on 08.07.2011 11:00 PM PDT]
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To Bungie Before Halo Reach- <3 keep this up, love you lots After Halo Reach- Wow wtf is this -blam!-? Die in a hole. I don't even know why they called Reach, Halo. It isn't even Halo.
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new theory: dont think im tripping, just give it a chance. look at the pictures we were able to see clearly. mountains, the sun rising and ... A FREAKING WINDMILL. (even with a wired connection.) and bungie is hiring an economy artist... maybe this game is (also?) about powering citys and alike. using what that planet has in offer. water, wind, sun and stuff like that. and if u think about it combat-wise that would mean that those different factions could harass each other by destroying the opponents power supply. just imagine an MMOFPS (yea i try to believe those rumors) with like 5 different factions each with their own city which gets basically built by us and powered by us. the factions fighting over a specific mountain region because of the heavy wind going through there or a river to power a watermill like thing.
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iROACH interesting theory. I think it would be fun to use a power source or fight over it. Think of what that could mean... -Constant conflict among enemy players/factions -Possible tapping into enemy sources to restore power to your equipment. -Starting new sources of power to allow for the development of a settlement or base of operations.
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thats exactly what i was thinking! that would also go hand in hand with that "evolving/never ending" story that is getting rumored
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PayneTrainVT This game is going to be what they have wanted to make ever since Halo 1.[/quote] Yea but if you check out Bungie's 20 year aniversary ViDoc you'll hear them say how Halo:Reach is what they've wanted to make since Halo: CE. By the way awesome theory iROACH!! [Edited on 08.08.2011 2:09 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sneakymode I noticed this in O Brave New World.. did anyone point it out yet? "Grognok build 2693 (built today") during some of the teaser clips of what they're working on. [url]http://i.imgur.com/BUH4r.jpg[/url] name/codename or name of a world/region/level or something?[/quote] Nice find! In your image... did you notice the bottom left corner? [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/t.png](Codename Tiger somewhat confirmed)[/url]
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Good job with the disecting of that image everyone. We know Grognok is this: [url]http://www.trademarkia.com/grognok-77889629.html[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous Good job with the disecting of that image everyone. We know Grognok is this: [url]http://www.trademarkia.com/grognok-77889629.html[/url][/quote] I was going to make a comment on how Grognok is the Unreal Engine of Bungie. That just makes it more official. I guess since they are independent from Microsoft, they can license the engine out to other developers (specifically ones under the Activision umbrella, and maybe the guys over at 343).
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those picturs at the start of tread......thats not a new world.........its the world without bungie.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PayneTrainVT [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous Good job with the disecting of that image everyone. We know Grognok is this: [url]http://www.trademarkia.com/grognok-77889629.html[/url][/quote] I was going to make a comment on how Grognok is the Unreal Engine of Bungie. That just makes it more official. I guess since they are independent from Microsoft, they can license the engine out to other developers (specifically ones under the Activision umbrella, and maybe the guys over at 343).[/quote] Was just about to post that. Also For those of you still saying that the next game will be an MMO, please, please, please read Bungie's own words: [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=30859]The Slide Heard Round The World[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKCII [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PayneTrainVT [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous Good job with the disecting of that image everyone. We know Grognok is this: [url]http://www.trademarkia.com/grognok-77889629.html[/url][/quote] I was going to make a comment on how Grognok is the Unreal Engine of Bungie. That just makes it more official. I guess since they are independent from Microsoft, they can license the engine out to other developers (specifically ones under the Activision umbrella, and maybe the guys over at 343).[/quote] Was just about to post that. Also For those of you still saying that the next game will be an MMO, please, please, please read Bungie's own words: [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=30859]The Slide Heard Round The World[/url][/quote] From: David Aldridge Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:42 PM To: Pete Parsons; Eric Osborne Subject: Fwd: "GDC: Bungie's Next Game Is An MMO" soooo, bungies next game WILL be an MMO? or am i still not getting that "joke"?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous Well to each their own. Now for those who wanted higher resolution images of the symbols here ya go... [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbolHD.png]Destiny Symbol[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DeadOrbitSymbolHD.png] Dead Orbit Symbol[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/NewMonarchySymbolHD.png]New Monarchy[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/OsirisSymbolHD.png]Osiris Symbol[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/SevenSeraphsSymbolHD.png]Seven Seraphs Symbol[/url] All you have to do is download them and edit them as you wish. I figured people may want to use them for Wallpapers or something else. [/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=64184482&viewreplies=true]Now in full color![/url] quick note, you were also missing the iris (blackspikes from around eye) on osiris. and the FWC (future war council?) logo.
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Hey Guys been reading this thread for a few days and something struck me. It i'snt really a clue yet but something bugs me about this. I wanted to change my avatar just now and as i switched from page 2 > 3 whil it loaded a image was shown to me that looked really familiar. So I made A screenshot. I will upload it when I get to it (Currently working on some graphic drivers for ubuntu and can't get my mind of it :P). So my next question: Everybody who has a picture of the starmap please upload. If somebody has a One of seven ticket PLEASE copy the map displayed on the back and upload it. Watch out for your code we don't want you exposing yourself now do we. If we have all the pieces we could fit it together and look it it up maybe related to real star system or something. What is it was our new real time sandbox :S. P.S. Found another piece just now. I Guess we should bee scorching throught this site looking for load displays or something. I know this is A predestined breadtrail butt hell bungie Im gonna follow it see you on 7/7/2012 keep the slingshot ready :P. *clue sound rings * This seem interesting "Pres A to further inestigate" :P [Edited on 08.09.2011 6:34 AM PDT]
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*Hears Fall Out 3 music in the background after looking at pictures*
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BRlCKZ I think that this is pointing more towards mmo. The job is an "economy designer" which to me implies designing an entire in game economy like that found in an mmo. Plus Bungie has confirmed that it is an action mmo. ([url=http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/halo-reach/news/bungie-confirms-next-project-is-an-action-mmo/a-201103049515421098/g-2009060110582402047]article on it here[/url]) Just to add my speculation, I think it will be a cross platform mmo between the 360 and PS3 which would be ridiculously ambitious and that is what Bungie keeps saying is how ambitious their next project is.[/quote] That was attempted, and failed, but in theory it could work... Although how well it does will depend on it's polish and amount of bugs. [Edited on 08.09.2011 7:08 AM PDT]
