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Complete game Speculation, and a thanks to Bungie.

I just finished watching the ViDoc, and sadly I was interrupted multiple times due to the fact that I was on a family computer. I would just like Bungie to know that this was a great wrap up of their business and history. This showed that unlike other "certain" companies who build games, they are [i]the[/i] producers of worlds and breakthroughs. They know what is best, because they listen to their fans. They will produce what they know will be something big. I look up to the founders of the company, and everyone else who came along throughout the journey. I would love to become some part of this company, but I am only a 17 year old and have far too long of a journey to get ahold of the chance to join them. To Bungie: I hope that this game will reveal itself in the not too distant future, and that you will blow each mind away. You're little sneak peak at the end shows a bit of what is coming and somewhat confirms our thoughts and rumors. It is incredible. The design and heart we all know that is being put into this game is miraculous! I wish to design and create something as well as you have, because I realize the difficulty that it must take. I welcome this new world, and am curious what these symbols and words floating around must mean :) Per Audacia Ad Astra! And don't doubt, or fear, just please push past that. The remainder of your active fans have faith in you. Let's game change. [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/j.png]New theme and symbol.[/url] [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/a.png]Picture of New World (?)[/url] [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/g.png]Picture of New World 2 (?)[/url] [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/c.png]Picture of New World 3 (?)[/url] [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/b.png]Sample of Bungie's Pure Creation Power.[/url] Oh, and is "Tiger" their new code name for the game? It was mentioned once or twice and it seemed to hint that they were talking about the game. [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/t.png](Codename Tiger somewhat confirmed)[/url] Bungie has a list of seven goals, all completed except for the last which needs to be checked. [url=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/bungie-illuminati-world-domination-7-step-plan.jpg](Link to picture.)[/url] The last goal states that they want to take over the world. Considering it is far beyond their power to take over this world, I assume they are going to create the most powerful video game world, and rule it. The conversation below shows how. [quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKCII [url=http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee199/musicman247/blurrypic1.jpg]Blurry Pic of stuff Bungie doesn't want us to see yet #1[/url] [/quote] [quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca In fact if we look at the two pictures on the left the focus of both are two very different mountains....or in fact buildings.Also the bottom right picture appears to have a column in the forefront and a building in the background. Unfortunately the top right picture is,well to bright and blurred to see anything.[/quote] [quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master The top left looks to me like the color scheme of a beach, and the top right the scheme of snow and cold. The bottom right seems to be more dry, average dirt, and evergreens. And the bottom left seems like pure desert.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca Which while im on a roll (Assuming that each of these environments does have a building in them)fits with what was found here. If you read through that site you will in fact find that bungie have made copyrights of 4 names: FWC(standing for future war council or something along the lines), Seven Seraphs, New Monarchy, Osiris, and Dead Orbit now each of these is believed to have their own shirt as shown on that site. This leads me to believe that these are the names of 4 different factions and what I believe we are seeing in that picture is the 4 faction bases. However it's just a guess they may not be factions at all and I could be jumping the gun a bit. [/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master You listed above 5 names that will most likely be faction bases. 4 will most likely make an appearance. But when I looked at a site, it had Bungie wearing multiple FWC shirts.[/quote] This is what I think, in an MMO in space, with multiple worlds and bases, I think that we will have our four main bases, and Bungie's head FWC base. Wouldn't it make sense for them to make their own world that is the most powerful and the main base?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca Oh yeah I did put down five I was excited my bad :D I believe you are correct in your assumption a MMOFPS inspired by planetside I would guess. It seems to me that players would pick one out of the four factions and the FWC would be a kind governing body to ensure everything runs smoothly.[/quote][/quote] [/quote] As for the symbols and logo's of each new world, here is a link so you can see the pictures. All are official, not exact, but official. These have been spotted in multiple places. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b]Drakonous For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category) [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url] Now for those who wanted higher resolution images of the symbols here ya go... [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbolHD.png]Destiny Symbol[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DeadOrbitSymbolHD.png]Dead Orbit Symbol[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/NewMonarchySymbolHD.png]New Monarchy[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/OsirisSymbolHD.pngOsiris]Osiris Symbol[/url] [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/SevenSeraphsSymbolHD.png]Seven Seraphs Symbol[/url][/quote] For those of you who are also wondering, "What is the point of speculating and trying to figure out if Bungie won't say anything?" Well, although they won't say anything in the near future, here is a picture giving us the suggestion that on 2012's Bungie Day we will know much, much more. [url]http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ticket3.jpg[/url] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b]master piraka It was a ticket that was sent to seven random bungie.net members who signed up for the Beta program I think. They are to be held until the "time is right"[/quote] [quote] New Theory: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iROACH dont think im tripping, just give it a chance. look at the pictures we were able to see clearly. mountains, the sun rising and ... A FREAKING WINDMILL. (even with a wired connection.) and bungie is hiring an economy artist... maybe this game is (also?) about powering citys and alike. using what that planet has in offer. water, wind, sun and stuff like that. and if u think about it combat-wise that would mean that those different factions could harass each other by destroying the opponents power supply. just imagine an MMOFPS (yea i try to believe those rumors) with like 5 different factions each with their own city which gets basically built by us and powered by us. the factions fighting over a specific mountain region because of the heavy wind going through there or a river to power a watermill like thing.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous iROACH interesting theory. I think it would be fun to use a power source or fight over it. Think of what that could mean... -Constant conflict among enemy players/factions -Possible tapping into enemy sources to restore power to your equipment. -Starting new sources of power to allow for the development of a settlement or base of operations.[/quote] [/quote] [Edited on 08.08.2011 8:39 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CanineThewolvie while at the same time Bungie make a division dedicated to mobile game(they're employing people too) Bungie Aerospace.[/quote] This and the quote from Joe Staten at GDC 2010: [quote][b]Said by: [/b]Joe Staten "Wouldn't it be great if we could make a world that was always there for you? Wow. That would be great."[/quote] Makes me wonder if Bungie is making a cross-platform-device game? Play on any console, computer, or mobile device any time you want. That would be amazing. [Edited on 08.05.2011 10:26 AM PDT]

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  • I've just had another brain wave so I'll post it here due to the fact that the rest of my ideas are here. Now as I previously stated there are in theory going to be 4 factions Seven Seraphs, New Monarchy, Osiris, and Dead Orbit with the FWC(future war council) as some sort of governing body. Now we know bungie loves the number 7 and I'm going to go out on a whim and suggest that the FWC will have 7 members who are from the bungie community and will act as a sort of bridge between bungie and the players. Now as we know 7 lucky members of the community were each given a golden ticket (you can see one the tickets [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/]here)[/url] so just as a guess these 7 people may perhaps become members of the FWC

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca I've just had another brain wave so I'll post it here due to the fact that the rest of my ideas are here. Now as I previously stated there are in theory going to be 4 factions Seven Seraphs, New Monarchy, Osiris, and Dead Orbit with the FWC(future war council) as some sort of governing body. Now we know bungie loves the number 7 and I'm going to go out on a whim and suggest that the FWC will have 7 members who are from the bungie community and will act as a sort of bridge between bungie and the players. Now as we know 7 lucky members of the community were each given a golden ticket (you can see one the tickets [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/]here)[/url] so just as a guess these 7 people may perhaps become members of the FWC[/quote] Hmm interesting Idea... Or they become the Seven Seraphs but again that's simply speculation at this point. We probably won't find anything out for a year from now.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca I've just had another brain wave so I'll post it here due to the fact that the rest of my ideas are here. Now as I previously stated there are in theory going to be 4 factions Seven Seraphs, New Monarchy, Osiris, and Dead Orbit with the FWC(future war council) as some sort of governing body. Now we know bungie loves the number 7 and I'm going to go out on a whim and suggest that the FWC will have 7 members who are from the bungie community and will act as a sort of bridge between bungie and the players. Now as we know 7 lucky members of the community were each given a golden ticket (you can see one the tickets [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/]here)[/url] so just as a guess these 7 people may perhaps become members of the FWC[/quote] Hmm interesting Idea... Or they become the Seven Seraphs but again that's simply speculation at this point. We probably won't find anything out for a year from now.[/quote] That's an Idea I hadn't given that any thought.I do agree that it's all speculation at the moment but it's fun none the less

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  • For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category) [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category) [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url][/quote] I believe there quite accurate actually but none the less if they are not exact your extremely close ;)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Callumca [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category) [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url][/quote] I believe there quite accurate actually but none the less if they are not exact your extremely close ;)[/quote] Why thank you, I take pride in making things as perfect as they can be, or that could just be OCD talking xD If anyone would like a high res version of any symbol I can make them. [Edited on 08.05.2011 1:25 PM PDT]

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  • [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/dark/lower_neb.png]LOWER NEBULA[/url] Put this image on a black background, you will see the fine print. The image is the BG on bungie.net Relevant because its poof that the new pattern is a nebula: (Code from Bungie.net): $(document).ready(function() { //fixes IE bug: the gets in way of css selector for bottom nebula bg $('body > div').eq(0).css('background','url(/images/dark/lower_neb.png) no-repeat center bottom fixed'); [Edited on 08.05.2011 1:37 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKCII [url=http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee199/musicman247/blurrypic1.jpg]Blurry Pic of stuff Bungie doesn't want us to see yet #1[/url][/quote] At that point in the ViDoc they were talking about handing Halo over... so I thought this was maybe blurry stuff of Halo 4?[/quote] I thought the same why blur out the speakers face and also i thought the top right overexposed pic looks like there is a plasma rifle in it :/

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] quagga bum [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKCII [url=http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee199/musicman247/blurrypic1.jpg]Blurry Pic of stuff Bungie doesn't want us to see yet #1[/url][/quote] At that point in the ViDoc they were talking about handing Halo over... so I thought this was maybe blurry stuff of Halo 4?[/quote] I thought the same why blur out the speakers face and also i thought the top right overexposed pic looks like there is a plasma rifle in it :/[/quote] I would have to disagree with it being Halo 4. I feel that due to the fact bungie are now taking no part in making of halo I believe that microsoft will not allow them to see anything from halo 4. I personally feel that due to there being pictures of 4 very different environments it supports the idea of 4 factions.However I acknowledge that it may be wishful thinking :D

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category) [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url][/quote] I am gonna need to post this at the top link... it's brilliant and supports mine and Callumca's theory.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swim Master [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous For those that are interested I took the time to recreate the symbols seen on the t-shirts. You can find then in the link below. Note that due to lack of detailed images they may be off (Dead Orbit is under this category) [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/DestinySymbols.png]Click Here for Image[/url][/quote] I am gonna need to post this at the top link... it's brilliant and supports mine and Callumca's theory.[/quote] I completely agree the link is great.I feel that we have smoothed our theory out a bit now though Id like to see what other people think.I mean it would be nice to have a broader view and the only way to do that is if people throw their ideas in.

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  • I don't think it will be an MMO, but I do believe that it will be open world. In fact, I think it may be open MULTIPLE world. [link to power point] As you can see here in this barely post-odst engine publication, there are subjects touched on that even the layman can see are much more advanced than those in the Reach engine.The kicker here is that the slides are OLDER than Reach. I think they've been working on this for WAY longer than they let on. On it, you see the landscape that was shown in the latest vidoc, and a whole section about atmospheric scattering. A feature that's 100% unnecessary unless you're gonna see the atmosphere from the outside. That's what lead me to believe that this could just be the first interplanetary open world campaign/ multiplayer experience in gaming. _________ ^Modified copypasta of a comment I posted in that blog. I know there are some things I say here that have already been touched on in the thread... cba to write it all again. I think this could even mark the next generation of console hardware too. [url]http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/SwimMaster101/a.png[/url] I don't ever recall a regular 360 running with that much detail on screen at once, I mean look at the honeycomb pattern on that dome! they either have some SERIOUS optimization magic going on (not out of the question) Or they made something not that special look really good (not that out of the question) or this is meant for something more powerful than a 360 or a ps3 (slightly out of the question, but not 100%. It's definitely got it's foot in the doorway) Edit: actually NVM, upon further inspection these visuals are perfectly achievable on current console hardware. Damn :( and YEAH :) at the same time. [Edited on 08.05.2011 6:26 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] master piraka I don't think it will be an MMO, but I do believe that it will be open world. In fact, I think it may be open MULTIPLE world. [link to power point] As you can see here in this barely post-odst engine publication, there are subjects touched on that even the layman can see are much more advanced than those in the Reach engine.The kicker here is that the slides are OLDER than Reach. I think they've been working on this for WAY longer than they let on. On it, you see the landscape that was shown in the latest vidoc, and a whole section about atmospheric scattering. A feature that's 100% unnecessary unless you're gonna see the atmosphere from the outside. That's what lead me to believe that this could just be the first interplanetary open world campaign/ multiplayer experience in gaming. _________ ^Modified copypasta of a comment I posted in that blog. I know there are some things I say here that have already been touched on in the thread... cba to write it all again.[/quote] So I decided to go check something mainly when bungie broke from away microsoft. So quick check on the internet to remind myself of when It happened,October 1, 2007 now bungie left so they could have creative freedom and create what they wanted to. Now that slide show was released in 2009 so in theory we can assume that bungie started work on the engine and the game as soon as the split was done so at the moment the game has been in production for about 4 years(give or take a few months). Now assuming that the game is announced next year then released in 2013 that is 6 years of development time which is well a long time however we can assume that the concept was born before the split. Oh and great find on the atmosphere scattering perhaps there will be space to ground battles. It's an exciting prospect

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  • Imo, the ODST ad poster / *destiny* symbol is a stretch. That could be anything. I hope it's legit though. If it is, there's a chance they could have dropped some hints in Reach too. Let the hunt begin.

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  • A lot of good detective work is being done, I have a feeling we may be rewarded soon for our efforts but that's my wishful thinking. I uploaded a [url=http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/?action=view¤t=DestinyWallpaper1.png]Higher Res desert pic[/url] from the video if people are interested. Also I'm thinking of making a wallpaper using it as the backdrop, anyone interested in that idea?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Drakonous A lot of good detective work is being done, I have a feeling we may be rewarded soon for our efforts but that's my wishful thinking. I uploaded a [url=http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/?action=view¤t=DestinyWallpaper1.png]Higher Res desert pic[/url] from the video if people are interested. Also I'm thinking of making a wallpaper using it as the backdrop, anyone interested in that idea?[/quote] Finding this stuff and coming up with theories is it's own reward in my eyes.(I do admit it would be cool though) The wallpaper idea is cool I'd use it. I've been thinking and the style of the game from that one screen is pretty distinct in fact I cant really think of any games to compare it to [Edited on 08.05.2011 6:29 PM PDT]

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  • What is THIS. [url]http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ticket3.jpg[/url]

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  • It was a ticket that was sent to seven random bungie.net members who signed up for the Beta program I think. They are to be held until the "time is right"

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] master piraka It was a ticket that was sent to seven random bungie.net members who signed up for the Beta program I think. They are to be held until the "time is right"[/quote] Bungie day 2012 looking forward to it

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  • [url=http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/George_Castaldo/Destinywallpaper2.png]O Brave New World Wallpaper[/url]

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  • Game might take a lot longer, since there making it multiplatform.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Delta and Sparta Game might take a lot longer, since there making it multiplatform.[/quote] And it has. If it had the standard Halo dev cycle it probably would have come out around the time Halo: Reach did. Maybe a few months after.

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  • Is it a desert? To me, the sand looks more like snow. Maybe it's just my computer. But I guess snow doesn't pile up into dunes like that anyway...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] El Hombre Is it a desert? To me, the sand looks more like snow. Maybe it's just my computer. But I guess snow doesn't pile up into dunes like that anyway...[/quote] It's just not textured. Nothing in the scene is textured. I mean there's a quick brown material on the windmills and cables connecting them, but nothing more complex than that. In CG, or game development... Modeling... Gray or white is usually the default color things are when they're not textured.

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  • Looking at it again, that makes sense. I guess I was just caught up in the Mission Icefly crap.

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