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#Halo

6/27/2011 5:21:47 AM
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Why Reach is, and forever will be, the worst Halo game.

A TL;DR is at the bottom. This will be a long post. Again, TL; DR at the bottom for the idiots in this forum. [b]ARMOR ABILITIES[/b] A crutch for inexperienced players. Nothing more, nothing less. *Sprint - Probably the one which is the most acceptable. However, it gives the ability to just "run away" when you're outplayed and/or out gunned. This hurts gameplay. Combine this with the new double melee system and you have the Commando of Halo. *Evade - Broken. It recharges far to fast, and it's essentially a sprint on steroids. Thus it just compounds sprint's problems. Seems like a hindrance in infection and invasion with barrel rolling Zombies and Elites. *Armor Lock - Push a button invincibility does not belong in FPS games at all. If you "should" have died but didn't it hurts gameplay. No matter what you do, they push X and live 6 more seconds, with the added benefits of frosting, shedding plasma grenades, EMP, the ability to look in all directions while in Armor Lock, and being invincible to [b]everything[/b]. *Jet Pack - This makes map control worthless, as you can just fly over the enemy. It also makes enemies difficult to hit with slower projectile power weapons, such as the Fuel Rod and rockets. This allows them to spray you with an AR then Melee you and get the kill, despite you having a superior weapon and quite possibly, skill. *Active Camo - The radar jammer is my real problem with this one. It defeats the entire purpose of it if the enemy knows you're nearby by jammed radar. Plus, on most maps there isn't enough "cover" so to speak, making it harder to blend in with. *Drop Shield - No, bubble shield wasn't good enough. Let's buff it and nerf it in different categories and hope it works out! Seriously, ineffective and not worth using. One hit from a tank and it's gone. 3 seconds later, tank kills you. Extended kill times such as these slow down gameplay and are completely un-needed and quite frankly, a waste of potential. *Hologram - This one is wasted potential and space. If you can't tell the difference between a Hologram and the real person, you're an idiot. It runs consistently in one direction, flickers every single time a shot even grazes it, and overall is hardly used and the time they spent making it could have probably been put to something better. Armor abilities are in general a hindrance to gameplay, and wasted effort. And if you say adapt, I've already tried. And failed. [b]BLOOM[/b] Bloom is built in randomness. Take the DMR, the whole pacing shots thing just doesn't work. You'll get killed by that lucky trigger happy noob who spams and hopes for the best. Randomness is unnecessary and further lowers the already lowered skill gap. Spam Close range = Kill. Spam Mid Range = Luck. Spam Long Range = Nothing. Luck should not be a factor at all. Sure, you do get killed by spammers, but you don't deserve it, it's more an error by Bungie than anything. [b]THE SNIPER RIFLE[/b] As if the gun wasn't overpowered as it was, the decided to make it an anti vehicle weapon, making the best all-rounder in the game. The Bloom doesn't affect it, it's just aesthetic to show the limited firing rate. The reticule is also enormus now, and the game seems to be much kinder in terms of no scoping. Get an enemy within the circle? Automatic headshot (Without Scoping, of course.) "Oh, people complained, let's buff the sniper rifle!" Plus this weapon always seems to attract griefing and betrayals because now it's the ultimate power weapon, even above Rockets. [b]EXPLOSIONS / GRENADE SPAM[/b] Explosions are quite frequent in this game, because of the fact that vehicles are made of tissue paper, and the fact that grenades are tactical nukes. Tanks can't survive more than 100 hits from small Arms fire, a moving warthog can get flipped by about 6 DMR hits, and explosions immobilize you in this game. Every time an explosion goes off in the general area, you can move the reticule for a short time. This is not needed. Grenades - Get outplayed? Out gunned? Just throw a grenade or two in the general direction of you're enemy! It's a guaranteed kill! The increase AOE will only cause problems. Explosions - These seem to have been buffed like grenades. They seem to immobilize you if the don't kill you, which is rare enough. [b]MEDIOCRE CAMPAIGN[/b] I expected a semi-decent campaign from Reach. What I got what this tacked together, plot hole filled, idiotic piece of -blam!-. I don't care that Kat died. I never even knew who she was. Just "GO HERE SHOOT THIS BOMB THIS", with some tacked on allies to try and make it feel emotional. Good for Carter, he pulled a futuristic 9/11 only to accomplish [i]nothing[/i]. Maybe it was supposed to make you feel hopeless, but it just made me think "idiot". He could have jumped out? The deaths seem idiotic and pretty un necessary at times. [b]AFK'ers AND FIREFIGHT[/b] I do not enjoy Firefight. It seems like an extra tacked on gametype to make the game seem like it was more feature rich. It is boring to repeat the same thing over and over, kill the same enemies over and over. Bungie tried to entice you with higher credit payoffs. Those worked, but not in the way intended. People with just sit through games not playing, not moving their character, not getting kills and yet sometimes earn even more of the much sought after credits than people who get Killionaires and Rampages in Firefight. These people ruin the already pathetic multiplayer with their sheer idiocy. [b]WORTHLESS CUSTOMIZATION[/b] I don't go around ohh'ing and ahh'ing at random's armor. I don't enjoy a tacked on RPG-like progression system in my FPS games. I don't care about my own armor (Not much, anyways). Why they spent so much time on these trivial things when they could have been making maps and fixing gameplay is beyond me. [b]LACK OF MAPS AND FORGEWORLD[/b] Forgeworld - Bungie was selfish with this. As well as idiotic. They designed it around their needs and their needs only. Almost half the forge pieces were made for their own maps without the community in mind. Also, due to the environment, it will cause screenlag if a map which heavily uses force piece and not the environment. Lack of maps - They got lazy with this. "Let's not make any new maps and just rehash the old ones with our self-centered pile of -blam!- Forgeworld!" Attempting to forge a map with good detail that isn't plagued by screen lag is near impossible, I've tried and failed about 4 times, with a full sized, detailed map. [b]MEELE SYSTEM[/b] Sword is OP? Hammer is OP? Lets make it so you can punch them out of you're way with little penalty! Honestly, why bungie even implemented this is beyond me. If you're within a CQB weapon's range and have an Assault Rifle, you should be able to win. Shield threshold. SHOOT SOMEONE 16 times with an AR then Meele = Same damage as a single melee. Seriously, just rush with sprint and meele. Why would you need a gun for this?? It also works in all situations because of sword/hammer block! [b]THE DMR[/b] ... Is random and a sad excuse for a precision weapon. Honestly, you can just spam away and get a kill, while the person timing their shots gets killed because of sheer built-in randomness of bloom. It also happens to be Anti-Vehicle, because in the event of an emergency you'll have an Anti-Vehicle weapon with you at spwan at all times. Seriously, I took a Scorpion in Forge mode and began shooting it with the DMR to see what it could take. It took 74 shots to destroy it. Let me tell you, a 7.62 round should not be able to destroy a tank in 74 hits. The damage it does to vehicles should be nerfed significantly so a team will actually have to work to destroy that Scorpion giving them a hard time. I'm finding more than often it ruins medium range combat because the trigger happy players spammed it and got the lucky headshot. It gets on my nerves every time I try to play Reach and snag the Scorpion or another vehicle only to get 2 or 3 kills before DMR spam kills me. [b]LAG / BLACK SCREENS[/b] You shoot an enemy with a full AR magazine and melee him. Twice. Then again. Then he melee's you, and you die. In all honesty, it is totally ridiculous. Seriously. It is unavoidable in most multiplayer games, but it is particularly bad in Reach. Next, the black screens when the host quits which last until the dawn of another age. They literally take [b]over 1 minute[/b] in BTB. That is truly ridiculous. Compared, with say MW2, Host Migrations are about 25 seconds. In Reach, they are about a full minute. Not saying CoD is good, just food for thought. I'm fairly sure Bungie could have simply compacted the,, even in Halo 3 they were shorter, a game from 2007's network > A game from 2010's network? Totally ridiculous. [b]RANKING SYSTEM[/b] They made a system that promotes boosting. Seriously. The better you do the more cR you'll get. Then they attempt to fight a battle against boosters and AFK'ers when they could be making the next game or doing something somewhat productive! 1 - 50 was flawed as well but it was better than this. [b]BETRAYAL SYSTEM[/b] I run and grab the sniper on Hemorrhage. My teammate betrays me and takes it. I betray him back. Instant black screen. I fire a Wraith mortar at the enemy. My teammate runs into it. I'm booted. A guy on our team betrays everyone intentionally. No option to boot. It's so broken it's not even funny. "Smart" systems should not be implemented. They just end up screwing up and making it unfair and unjust. [b]TL;DR[/b] Reach is flawed. Seriously flawed. _________________________________________________ This concludes my rant. Feel free to agree or disagree.
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  • Shut up, troll. Armor abilities made the game much better.

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  • This guy was nice enough to say at the end of his post to feel free to agree or disagree, because he's an honest person trying to make the world a little bit better, one of the few people who's not a complete d-bag in the bungie community. Fortunately for him he has d-bags in the community on his side, myself being one of them. Everyone who disagrees with him his a dumb piece of crap for lack of a more vulgar word because blam doesn't cut it. Everything he says is complete truth and if you think that he doesn't like it because he sucks then look at his stats, clearly doesn't suck. Obviously not a MLG player but he's not some noob with .63 k/d who's just tired of dying because he doesn't know how to aim. Bungie did in fact rush the making of Reach and when making it focused on the wrong things when making the game. They tried making some epic campaign with a story that is complete bull. the only reason why i played the campaign was for the credits, not even the whole campaign... do you know how many times i've played winter contigency? way too many, and as virtus vero so kindly pointed out to all you morons out there, spartan 3's never set foot on the planet Reach, nor did a spartan 3 ever wear a set of MJOLNIR armor, they wore SPI. And if you had to pick one thing from Halo 3 to fix what would you pick? Lag, obviously. What did Bungie choose to ignore completely? Lag, obviously. what they did do is make it harder to find, its disguised by things like armor abilities, bloom, meleeing at the speed of light. have you ever seen someone armor lock while standing? i have. And do you wanna know why bungie's last act was to banhammer the "cheaters" in firefight, because they're pissed that after august 2nd they have no power over the games they poured money and time in excess into. If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine your wrong, this isn't opinion what i said here, its fact.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonsPoison its not flawed you just suck[/quote] so i'm gonna go ahead and point that he's better than you, so therefore his opinion counts more than yours does, because in fact you suck. don't come back at me by saying i suck either because according to every stat i'm better than you are too, and i agree with everything he says.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] John S925 Two words can prove you wrong. Halo Wars.[/quote] I beg to differ, good sir. And Reach is also a great game, it's ranked number 3 (I believe) on the most played game on XBL, so people must not have the same opinion as you. Which, being a rant, it's still your opinion, my opinion is that Reach is a fun, fascinating game that I can enjoy again and again and again. Sure, Bungie could have done much more and much better, but the game is still by far the funnest one I've played since CoD 4. And that's saying something.

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  • Wow, I read all of that and I agree with a lot of it. Especially with Reach being flawed. I don't know why people reported the OP at all. it was well thought out criticism and provides discussion. Does the Reach forum really report people who disagree with their opinion? Anyways, while the OP seems a bit harsh, I will have to agree with him. I've been with Halo since the beginning, and Halo CE was pretty good. Halo 2 brought the most balance, yet bad spawning at the same time, Halo 3 had better graphics than Halo 2. Halo Reach had good graphics, but diminished in quality of the game to make up for in how it looks and sounds. Really, I [b]believe[/b] Halo Reach was just as rushed as Halo 3 ODST. There are many flaws still in the game that could have been corrected in the Beta if it were not for people constantly whining about Armor Lock then. Yes, it's hard to believe that Armor Lock was even more OP than it is now. But Armor Lock is balanced too in my opinion (For now). What really needs fixing in this game to me is the spawning and maps. I like most of the maps, but the Forge World ones suck in my opinion: Not the community made ones, but the ones given to us by Bungie. There's horrible spawn placement and on some of the Forge World maps, the power weapons are basically given to one team since it's closer. If it's not closer, it's easier to get to. This is my opinion and two bits. I know I'm not stating fact, but really. Why report well thought out criticism?

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  • I think Reach is a great game. But compared to the other halos, I think it has the worst gameplay. Doesn't mean I don't like it, though.

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  • Bloom is only random if you don't know how to control it. It's possible to control where the bullet goes inside of the scope no matter how large the bloom is.

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  • I honestly believe halo reach is a chore to play. I only play it because im a Halo fanboy and always will be. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oSwPo I honestly like Reach... [/quote]

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  • I agree with the OP. He knows exactly what he's talking about. Halo Reach is definetely a POS compared to the other Halo games. Also... I don't understand why the post was reported. Haters don't hate.

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  • All of what you said is true. I find myself agreeing with every topic you have pointed out. Yet, as frustrating as the game is, we find ourselves playing, over and over again. I hate reach's game mechanics, but I love halo. The story is also a complete fraud seeing as how all spartan III's were on onyx during the fall of reach (assuming you read the books). So I agree with all of the flaws, but honestly we are hopeless against a community where half of them aren't skilled and the rest are d-bags with a minority of normal players. Anyways, I too am disappointed with reach but I still play it....I mean I still have good memories and fun when I play with my friends.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Umadbro77 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xMad Modx Reach isnt flawed, youre mad that you suck. It wasnt meant to be like Halo 1, 2 or 3.[/quote] Lol. Check peoples stats before you accuse them of sucking. His K/D is .17 higher than yours. And if its not going to be like Halo WHY CALL IT THAT???? Bungie should of just made Aerospace and stopped wasting the communities time and money.[/quote]You just brought K/D into the argument. Your argument is now invalid, and anyone who supports it is wrong.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] scmitar1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lt Schnitzel117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lehnaru [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat *starts slow clap*[/quote] *continues clapping* The OP has a very good point.[/quote] I think by slow clap he means 80's sitcom slow clap, to show sarcasm, not to applaud for a good post. *more slow clap* Reach is awesome.[/quote] No, he was applauding a good post. 3 Legged Goat [i]seems[/i] to hate everything. If you're reading this, prove me wrong.[/quote] I have to agree on that, it was an amazing post, being well structured and backed up, I just disagree with it, due to me liking Reach a lot, yet I can see his point.

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  • I think assassins creed 2 was the worst one out of the assassins creed trilogy. but do you really care what i think? you shouldn't because its an opinion. google it bro. halo reach was the best halo my friend

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TraceMoi Not gonna lie, I agree with the vast majority of the things you said. Though Reach does have its merits, Halo 3 was faaaaaar better in terms of multiplayer.[/quote]You know that thing where people spit what they were drinking because of a statement? Well, I had to make due with actual spit, because I wasn't drinking anything. On the bright side, I have now cleaned my screen.

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  • You know, people like the OP are lucky that Bungie has alot more patience and self control than myself. Because the OP would have been on a permaban train 50 pages ago if I got my way.

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  • Here we go again...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZipZapZop123773 Anyone else before this dies permanently?[/quote] Most pointless bump ever. Seriously.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lt Schnitzel117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lehnaru [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat *starts slow clap*[/quote] *continues clapping* The OP has a very good point.[/quote] I think by slow clap he means 80's sitcom slow clap, to show sarcasm, not to applaud for a good post. *more slow clap* Reach is awesome.[/quote] No, he was applauding a good post. 3 Legged Goat [i]seems[/i] to hate everything. If you're reading this, prove me wrong.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lehnaru [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat *starts slow clap*[/quote] *continues clapping* The OP has a very good point.[/quote] I think by slow clap he means 80's sitcom slow clap, to show sarcasm, not to applaud for a good post. *more slow clap* Reach is awesome.

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  • wow. you sir are a whiney troll nothing more and nothing less ( well you could be a five year old which is less than a troll) all the points you gave are really invalid, like saying a sniper is an all around weapon which it isnt, if you actually fired a sniper at a banshee you would see it takes a while to kill it and by then the driver would have seen you and banshee bombed your trolling butt and the jet pack rant saying that you can fly over said enemy controlled area is wrong. they would have shot you down because they would have seen and heard the jetpacker. you are a fail

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pwints92 It's funny because clearly you suck at the game. I've always liked it, but my friends had the same reason to hate it. They aren't that good :) . Once you overcome the fact that there are armor abilities and bloom, then you understand that the other team has to face the same thing. If someone is using AL, go and freaking use AL and stop crying that he's cheating, because he's not. And the other team has to suffer with bloom too. Guess what, if they beat you, it's because they are better than you and understand how to use AA and bloom appropriately. Get good at the game. Then you won't lose every one on one situation and then come on to the forums and waste our time by crying about how AA and bloom is bad. P.S. the sniper rifle is kind of awesome...[/quote]Disregarding valid points with "You suck lololol" is ignorant.

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  • It's funny because clearly you suck at the game. I've always liked it, but my friends had the same reason to hate it. They aren't that good :) . Once you overcome the fact that there are armor abilities and bloom, then you understand that the other team has to face the same thing. If someone is using AL, go and freaking use AL and stop crying that he's cheating, because he's not. And the other team has to suffer with bloom too. Guess what, if they beat you, it's because they are better than you and understand how to use AA and bloom appropriately. Get good at the game. Then you won't lose every one on one situation and then come on to the forums and waste our time by crying about how AA and bloom is bad. P.S. the sniper rifle is kind of awesome...

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  • I like Halo Reach, despite the things you call 'flaws'. Why are you even here if you don't even like the game? To try and convince people to think you're right to inflate your ego, over the internet of all places? To try and convince people to leave Reach for, say, Black Ops (bwhahaha!)? If you don't like the game, no ones forcing you to play it, or write a broken wall of text about your educated opinion on how much you think it sucks.

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  • what about halo wars or ODST?

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  • [url]http://www.myfacewhen.com/105/[/url]

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  • You've played competitive for more than 4 days. Why play for that long if you hate this game so much?

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