Throwing "at your feet" to get a kill is a blatant exaggeration. Throwing Knives are strong, but are also easily avoided at any range except for very close range. And in close range, there are other options that are probably stronger. Athyr's Throwing Knives are very good, but it should be good. The more "niche" and situational an Exotic is, the stronger it should be in those situations.

I’m a Gunslinger main and I can confirm this. I use Lightweight, and it’s basically an instant win when paired with a HC. People do Bow swapping, but just using Lightweight knife and a 140 is even better. Heavyweight is also ridiculous. The tracking is insane and the subclass synergy is amazing. The startup time is just too slow for me personally, but it’s definitely still in the top 3 of ranged melees. I mean it one taps, has crazy tracking, refunds your dodge, refunds itself, and grants a damage buff. Like bruh. And Explosive Knife is also excellent in a competitive environment, as it can hold a lane and tag a player trying to flank. I think the only thing holding it backs is its lack of subclass synergy. It can’t scorch unless you’re using Caliban’s, so it really only does what it’s meant to do and nothing more.

All these Hunter mains acting like Athrys's Embrace doesn't exist. Matter of fact don't nerf throwing knife AA nerf throwing knives so they can't one shot. It's real dumb that Hunters have the only one shot melee and extra extra dumb that it refunds itself on a kill for free

It's easy to miss throwing knives. It's high risk, therefore it should be a higher reward if you do hit. And weighted knife in particular has such a long wind up before the throw, it takes dedication to learn how to compensate for that. If I play against someone, I always assume they can nuke me with any ability at any given time unless I've seen them just use it and know for certain they don't have a double (or triple) charge on it, or exotics that give such. If I die to a Hunter knife, then I probably wasn't paying attention to this and deserve it, in which case good play on the other person. And yeah, I'm a Hunter main saying this. The Hunter melees require a higher skill curve to master because few of them are exactly alike, both within the same subclasses and between them. The closest within a subclass in terms of similar execution or functionality is the arc ones (sans Tempest Strike) and between is snare bombs and proximity knives. Whereas Titan gets the option of literally copy paste ability Now In Different Flavours across three Light classes. And Warlock is even worse as it gets a similarly executed melee option across all three Light Classes and one Dark class. And that's being generous by saying the Strand one is too different because of the additional charges. Hunter gets these melees that aren't really shared with one another in terms of execution and/or functionality: Fan of knives with a wide spread Quick throwing knife Knife with a long windup that has to be compensated for Rope dart that bounces between targets, that in order to get the most of, we have to CATCH it Shurikens that can bounce off targets and corners. Tempest strike, which is a slide and execute style melee/aspect And then you turn to the regular arc melees, which are both punches, and that's technically another style of melee to learn. And smoke and proximity, which is about placement. Hunters have more to learn. Titans and Warlocks slap on any subclass almost and the melee is the same but in a different colour and can basically just mash melee and it'll probably work in most cases regardless. So yeah, if you get killed by a Hunter knife, that player took the time to learn it and earn it, and is very much also shame on you for not assuming they'd have a knife to smoke you with.

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Titans shoulder charge AA is way more cracked lol. Need that toned down a bit first.

Almost all the replys are from hunter mains btw.

I promise you its not as easy as it looks. For every knife that hits you, 2-3 are missing. It takes practice and is definitely not an issue rn

That's specifically athry's embrace, I believe. 2 bounces and the knife gains sentience and flies directly to the nearest forehead

I agree throwing knives are ridiculous, nerf needed now

Athrys is a problem (and even then it's more annoying than actually overpowered), without it knives are perfectly fine.

Lmao just make a hunter real quick and try to get a headshot with a knife... you will realize real quick how wrong you are.

Arthritis embrace is the problem.

True. Throwing hammer completely misses when it clearly should’ve hit and throwing knife hits when it shouldn’t Bungie balance :/

If they aren’t going to change it, can they at least buff the tracking on the stasis warlock melee because that one can’t hit a target unless you’re one centimeter in front of it.

It s fine as is mate. I just wish warlock have something similar