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4/12/2024 7:46:03 PM
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Bows are completely dead for the 2% of us that enjoyed using them
I have 60k + kills with bows in PVP and it’s actually so frustrating to see where they are now. Bows feel like they are exclusively a hot swap weapon now which makes no sense in a duelling focused experience. The fact that you had to fight through flinch on your second shot was random enough securing the kill - now you have to hit the crit through flinch and in a AR meta- bow’s are absolutely are dead in PvP until the pvp team changes something. The 6% buff to lightweights did nothing as any 10 resil or overshielded guardian will not even have the shield broken. I thought lethalphobia may be usable with this buff, but it still is not. There is no plus side to using a bow now, I would have said Airborne gameplay before but that dosent matter now you need to hit both crits.
The only usable bow is wishender, by far the most annoying and boring bow to use. If you are an aggressive bow player wishender is far too slow and wants you to sit back and wall hack which just isn’t fun. Rip my fellow bow enthusiasts. As someone who has nearly 300,000 kills in pvp I have never found pvp to be this frustrating to play; I doubt il be playing much pvp from here on, as a bow main it feel’s completely unplayable, it’s a real shame as it really felt great to master this play style and have a fighting chance at carrying my team in trials… not anymore
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“Everyone Liked That.”
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What changes did Bungie make to bows? And does the change apply to both PvE and PvP?
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8 RepliesIf every bow player disappeared, everyone would win.
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1 ReplyEdited by Moon: 4/15/2024 8:07:50 PMLegendary bows took actual skill to use as they had and still have the slowest TTK in the game, the people who were good at the game had an advantage by playing their surroundings, walls, air, ect... The people who lack skill and don't play PVP complained, the game has become something that Bungie wants everyone to hop into PVP and be able to get kills, it is not designed for competitive or high skill ceiling, so throughout the years bungie has removed everything that includes skill to use. This is why the meta is auto rifles. This is why SMG has been the meta for years and special ammo was reworked, this is also why bubble titan is abused, hold the trigger down with an over shield and shoot in their general direction, doesn't matter how accurate you are, you have an over shield... It's what will ultimately kill this game, as it's been moving competitive players away from the game and pushing them into games that are actually based around skill and PVP. This never was and will never be that game and Bungie has been doing this since the game was created.
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1 ReplyWomp womp
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Good 😈
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And the 98% is happy about it.
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Thank pvp players whom got them nerfed a few months back
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As Peter Griffin said, who the hell cares?
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2 RepliesOhhhhh noooo, whatever shall we dooooo?
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8 Repliesyeah is so sad that now i can't hot swap and i'm forced to hit 2 hs yeah very bad
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7 RepliesEdited by Posey: 4/13/2024 10:42:37 AMAnd it's a massive W for the 98% of us that don't play them
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3 RepliesGood.
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RegretCater to casuals! - old
They were a plague on the PvP experience… good riddance to them -
1 ReplyHot take: always thought bows don't fit this game and never should've been introduced. Glaives are even worse. Imagine taking a bow to into a gunfight when gaurdians can shake off multiple bullets and space magic.
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2 RepliesMay be a controversial opinion and I know you titan crayon loving shotgun crutchers are happy about it and you ophidian shotgun crutcher warlocks but bows are completely useless in PvP now Up to a point where a 180 scout with box breathing can crit almost the same as a precision bow Absolute joke and I guarantee one of the devs got bowwed a little too much in crucible. But I also wanna say that some of you took it way too far, up to a point you guys just flying in with strand and doing disgusting bow plays two bodying everyone so maybe it was deserved Lets now act all humble and -blam!- and pretend that most bow players are honorable players Most of you were wishender crutchers or had insane hipfire bows with drawtime perks crafted just to be as toxic as possible. Or disruption break bows and hotswapping to an exotic hc for the bodyshot cleanup As a bow enjoyer in PvE I must admit they were too much in PvP, and now they’re too little. It is what it is.
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2 RepliesI made a post on this as well, they require way too much perfection to secure the 2 hit kill. You need 2 perfect draw crits with a precision bow, just to get that 2 hit kill. landing 1 perfect draw crit isn't even enough to break the player sheild since it deal 128 damage and shields are 130. Mix in the accuracy nerf, and increased draw time for precision frames, and you have an awful time ahead if you run bows.
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1 ReplyNo sympathy bowroach
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1 Reply60k kills in pvp with a bow…sounds like they needed to be put down
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1 ReplyThey did the same thing to my breach GLs. Simply because top pvp players get "annoyed" with what isn't meta. Usage is low, not broken. It is just a different play style. It gets nerfed.
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3 RepliesI feel ya dude, bows have never been meta and just because a couple of exotic bows were slightly oppressive bungie nerfs the whole lot of them rendering them almost completely useless. all the while conditional finality continuously reigns supreme topping the kills leaderboard for months. Bows have some of the slowest ttks and have a much higher skill curve to be successful with in pvp yet they needed a nerf??? and special ammo weapons that one shot and are much more oppressive now get more ammo with the new changes this week. Plus almost all other weapons with much faster ttks just got a base damage buff. Doesnt make much sense.
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8 RepliesI still do not understand the hate bow users get. Every time i see an argument its “bows suck” and “ i hate bows” .
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https://youtu.be/9mLA4qcB55E?si=3DDWNHd3MCmqsKB- Hand cannons have been buffed... Watch the ttk of 140 hc. Thats the draw speed of most bows... Whats up with this bungie?
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5 RepliesEdited by Soul_Eater_42: 4/14/2024 12:52:12 AMUh... I'm still using Le Monarque.
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1 ReplyWhen Bows first released, I was so excited to try them- only to find that they really are not great and unfortunately that really has not changed (save for a few exotic bows).
