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Edited by Talia Sendua: 11/1/2023 9:16:22 PM
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With so many leads being laid off, including Salvatori, I declare for myself this studio and franchise dead!

I won't buy Final Shape. I am done with this franchise. I don't know who is in charge for those layoffs, but let me tell you... You very likely killed this company and game franchise with doing so. Ninjas, feel free to lock this post if it violates any CoC. I said my piece. I am done with this franchise and game company after next season. I will play the last bits I already paid for (which is the yearly season pass of LF) and then gladly cure myself of the almost life-long addiction I had for this franchise. Edit: My final goodbye the community will witness as a selfmade cutscene (WIP atm) before Final Shape goes live Summer 2024

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  • Bungie since Covid Added dungeon keys Increase dlc price Sold out to Sony Increase SP price Focused more on eververse items Countless delays Downsizing and firing employees If only they hired me to lead the pvp team… something so cheap and affordable… Go woke go broke

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    • I'm not going to pretend I'm outraged like some of you posers. Lightfall was a complete mess. Garbage top to bottom. That includes Neomuna. That first season of the year was also garbage. I don't even remember it, except that I just stopped playing altogether after completing the campaign on one character. Strand was also garbage until they put out the new aspects. You posers can pretend strand wasn't trash, but it's pretty hollow considering every single one of you switched immediately to banner of war, etc. Season of the deep was "okay". Extremely derivative fights and the 6 man activity was really, really bad. This season was pretty good except for Alters of Summoning. Alters was second rate. Spire is extremely good though, IMO. This season's artifact mods are just bad. The orbs, etc interfere with gameplay more than they help, to the point where you will probably die trying to clear out orbs so you can revive someone or interact with a mechanic. I have a strong feeling that if you look at the second rate content you will find many common denominators among employees, so pretending that big, bad Sony is at fault is just stupid. Oh, and now "dmg" says there is bad leadership. Well, there may well be(I more than suspect "Joe" is behind most of what's wrong with D2 right now), but "dmg" has always been a joke. The "TWID"s written by these new "community managers" are cringe worthy to a degree I would not have thought possible from adults. "Fashion" is topic #1 because everything else is a mess. I don't care that they laid off the music guy or if he just quit. I'm not as enamored by the music of D2 like so many pretend to be. In orbit, music from D1 has been recycled back in, so let's not pretend that guy is the golden goose. Personally, I don't revel in anyone getting canned. However, Bungie NEEDS a shakeup. The philosophy they have employed in recent years is a disgusting joke. If the layoffs were to clear out some of that dead weight, then fine. I wish Bungie would leave Destiny in the hands of Sony. Bungie hasn't been worthwhile since the launch of D2. The much lauded Forsaken was one truly great location with truly great activities (Dreaming City) and a terrible second rate Baron storyline on a really bad location (Tangled Shore) D2 Mars is depressing and always has been. So save your mock outrage. If Bungie were actually doing their jobs properly D2 would be top tier and there would be no layoffs.

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        Cater to casuals! - old

        so odd.... the music was one of the few redeeming features

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      • At this point, Bungie is not saveable. All we can hope for is that the talent lost here will be picked up by other studios that had the amazing ethos and passion of the original Bungie. It was good while it lasted.

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        • Anyone else just never heard of the Salvador guy ever in there life

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          • Yeah I cannot for the life of me rationalise letting Salvatori go. One of the last iconic veterans of the company, who ALWAYS performed great. Even the worst expansions had fantastic OSTs and yet even he isn't safe. His salary must've been massive or something, which still wouldn't justify it because his work is worth every cent.

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            • As I said before a bunch of very entitled and comfortable numb people is at the wheel of this project, they been living in the illusion that "speed" and "underdeliver" is what makes them make money. It´s not, It never was, this tactics only PARASITED what it was the GREATEST gameplay and the BEST arts ever (non including Neomuna) they been building crap in the best foundation, until even the foundation cannot survive anymore.

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            • [quote]You very likely killed this company and game franchise with doing so.[/quote] 2 things here. 1, The company died years ago when the original devs left this broken business. You just hung on to false hope this business manipulated you to believe in. 2, If it happens, Good, they deserve what they get for destroying what once was. Only this time they can't run to another publisher to try to bail them out of their mess.

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              • I feel like Bungie brought this on themselves honestly though. Everything since Lightfall has been horrible, their response to the community has been horrible, and now there are consequences. Not sure why so many are surprised by this. The funniest thing to me is seeing everyone on twitter and content creators "so sad" for all the community facing people that got let go, when all they have done for the last 2 years or so is bash these same people for being bad at their jobs.

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              • Proud of you. We need more people to jump ship off this dead/dying game and company.

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              • Salvatori is being laid off!? Why? For doing too good of a job? Yep, it's dead.

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              • Go woke go broke

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              • Needed to happen. Glad it did. I don't feel sorry for any of them. They said FU to the player base for years and Took out hard earned money and wasted so much of our time. This definitely needed to happen. To many incompetent people at that company and to many people who care about being woke then making a good game.

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                • Agree. Game has been patchworked together for years, but people blindly buy anything and support mediocrity

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                • Laying off Michael Salvatori is crazy

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                  • did you commision art of yourself quitting the game?

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                    • it died after marty got fired.

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                    • “I am done with this game, but I will play next season” lol

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                      • What about thorn ?

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                        • Nobody gives a -blam!- lmao

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                        • So brave lol

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                          • I am done ! But i will play the last remaining bits ? 🤣 See you next season ! 😉 And the next one and the one after that and so on ...

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                            • Edited by PK_Haseo: 10/31/2023 10:59:35 PM
                              Me - I’m just gonna “Ride the Storm”⛈️ so 🤬 it. The Community been through hell even with “Bungie” recent price hike & not listening to us the fan base. I Don’t support “Bungie” decision making but ❤️ the Story driven narrative.

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                            • Salvatori being laid off is plain insulting

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                              • Edited by Sturm with no Drang: 11/1/2023 11:27:45 PM
                                I'm honestly surprised with how badly management and/or their executive higher-ups are shitting the bed right now. With both the delay being in order for both Marathon and FS, that would be one thing, but kicking these employees to the curb on top of this raises some concerns as to what is actually going on. It's a safe bet for anyone to go ahead and cancel pre-orders and keep an open ear for whatever happens next. Hopefully, more light gets shed on the picture and soon. Edit: Holy -blam!-. It's getting worse.

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                                • Just to clarify something, but can we take a moment to reflect on the fact Bungie is the only company to be willing to do this? I mean like yeah, layoffs are extremely common, but I personally never in my entire life heard lay offs and a product being delayed in the same sentence. Call me insane but normal companies actually accept the fact that inorder to make money, there's a minimum staffing level, and its a disliked expense to those at the top, but they at least accept that if they are going to run a company, they need a minimum amount of staff to achieve anything in doing it. You [u][b]never[/b][/u] lay off essential employees. When you are delaying the only products you even make, you are doing something wrong with your lay offs. You need that minimum amount of staff to even make something you can sell and no company on Earth is stupid enough to think the best idea is to get rid of the core of employees. I think this make the picture rather clear, especially when considering the stories that keep being claimed about Bungie and how they treat their employees, that Bungie literally sees their staff as a nuisance, basically. Your opinion on your staff has to be EXTREMELY low if you think they need to be let go even if they are necessary to meet your deadlines. And can we also acknowledge something else? So Bungie claims that the money from Sony, mostly ended up in employee retention. What other company like pays its employees to stay with them, and once they take the money, -blam!- it, let's fire them anyways! Maybe Bungie wouldn't think laying off the essentials of their company if they didn't do stupid -blam!- like paying employees not to leave them and then firing them immediately after? And thus, maybe there's some rather substantial reasons why people at Bungie need significant money above beyond the salary they already make, as a bribe to stay with them? [spoiler]Are we supposed to be oblivious to Sony being blamed for all of this, but that is funny considering Bungie would claim this when everyone on Earth heard about Sony buying them, but lucky for Bungie, did you even hear about the fact Sony told Bungie to do whatever the -blam!- they want, they get to operate completely independent, till at least when Sony even has time to take over control of their processes. Sony literally said "do whatever you want for the time being, as long as we are receiving money now for being your owners, we really don't have the time for any of the other stuff". But yes Bungie, we are neive people that cannot form our own thoughts about you do to our Stolkholm Syndrome, even if the amount of player today is nothing whatsoever compared to the past stats. No Bungie, we aren't quiting your game at alarming rates, Sony is the problem". [/spoiler] [spoiler]First it was Microsoft being -blam!- over Halo Then Activision had to be left because they were too controlling even talking badly about them including in the Shadowkeep ViDoc, saying they wanted to have crossplay but never could cause they were with Activision. Now we are on to Sony being a problem and forcing layoffs of key employees. Are you seeing a pattern already? Cause I'm not even done yet This all was happening while seperately, they were under Playstation division of Sony, and Destiny 1 came out with some hot exclusivity, even to the point they were allowed to get Hawkmoon, exclusive strikes, and more, but we were told we were not allowed to because we were Xbox kids. That then abruptly turned into Bungie claiming Microsoft is the best actually and everything was put on Gamepass. But then that was removed with zero warning, and now it is Playstation Plus cause -blam!- Microsoft, again..... There is certain people in this world who tend to claim everyone that happens to come in their lives, are abusers. They do it as a smoke show and are actually the problems themselves There is alot of aubsive people in this world but when some is claiming 100% of the people they meet are abusing them, there's something seriously wrong there and it's time to start avoiding them....[/spoiler] [spoiler]Just as one last thing. Why the -blam!- did we literally just get forced to wait 5 months without anything coming towards us as a period that was on top of the year long wait for DLCs, and we literally were told they needed it to avoid employees being forced to "chrunch" to make their deadlines? So that is 5 months we were extremely willing to accept a delay. But now Final Shape is literally being delayed too cause those employees needing the time, were fired anyways? -blam!- off with this Bungie.[/spoiler]

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