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Edited by PhysioMage:
9/13/2020 1:37:42 AM
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Fusion rifles can roll perks that cancel each other out
I noticed a Main Ingredient rolled with Liquid Coils and a Charge Time masterwork, but these things cancel each other out. Liquid Coils gives +10 impact and +40ms charge time, and Charge Time masterwork gives -10 Impact and -40ms charge time.
It doesn't seem like this should even be possible as a roll since that's effectively removing a perk from the second column of the fusion rifle. I assume it happens on the other fusion rifles with those in their perk pool too. Just thought you Bungie folks might find it appropriate to adjust that as I don't think there are any other weapon types that have such a conflicting perk pool potential.
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2 RepliesWell we obviously can't have good fusion rifles in the game. They either literally break the game (Telesto), get sunset (Loaded Question), get cried over in PvP (Erentil), or are simply not better than a shotgun instead (all other FRs).
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3 Replies[i]cries in Tap the trigger fusion rifle[/i]
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16 RepliesLike getting firmly planted and moving target on the same weapon... should not exist. Hip fire grip on a sniper, tap the trigger on a rocket launcher. Smh
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3 RepliesEdited by Demon_XXVII: 9/14/2020 1:05:52 AMLots of weapons have conflicting perks Auto Rifles (Gnawing Hunger) with [b]Subsistence[/b] & [b]Kill Clip[/b] is a great example!
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This is Bungie. What did you expect? Competence?
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1 ReplyRemember when bite of the fox could roll Full Auto? Yeah it aint just fusions that can be scuffed
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Fusion Rifles need a hard buff and the changes to the dmg/charge relationship need to be reverted. A charge time masterwork should be a flat boost, it shouldn't decrease your damage.
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1 ReplyIt's like the barrel and stuff on certain other weapons . It's so vague - says removes or reduces range yet try here is often more green on the bar! Then back up mag also. Just shows a green arrow but doesn't show how much extra it actually gives.
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1 ReplySo many weapons can do this. Just look at all the hipefire grip range finder rolls.
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4 RepliesNerf fusion rifles
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There’s plenty of perks that cancel each other out, why is that a problem? That’s like saying full bore shouldn’t roll with ricochet rounds. You have multiple perk options for a reason. Pick the one that makes the gun better.
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Theres lots of perks that cancel each other out not just those 2 and perks that make it entirly worse like drop mag with substinance
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Technically you could partially masterwork the Fusion and fine tune your RPM/damage to a very specific point, so it isn’t useless. I don’t know if it currently has any practical uses but it’s something to keep in mind.
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2 RepliesHipfire and snapshot on a sniper. Smh
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2 RepliesThe reason charge time masterwork on fusions is shit
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Sounds like the Bungie effect to me.
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7 RepliesRapid fire frames can also roll backup plan...which does absolutely nothing to a rapid fire frame. 🤦♂️
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1 ReplyI also don’t like that a charge time MW for a fusion AUTOMATICALLY decreases impact.
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As long as it's a max level piece... I don't mind. Good infusion fuel.
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1 ReplyBipolar rolls are fine. Not every roll has to be good. I think we should keep trash rolls
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So... [spoiler]Nerf Fusion Rifles? [/spoiler]
