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12/26/2019 9:08:52 PM
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Looks Like People Really Don't Like the 'Banner This Time

I can remember a time when people would get hyped about it, but from the looks of it, it seems to no longer be the case. What changed? Fundamentally what happened to Destiny that turned its community into a vast majority of spiteful and languishing people?

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  • I personally only play for the old IB nostalgia it’s fun, but more when everyone is grinding for powerful loot(like in d1)not trying to crush a quest.

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  • It’s fun , but bounties and weapons have sucked since D1 . I barely dip my toes in unless my clan members want to run it

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  • Edited by Erijian: 12/30/2019 7:05:26 PM
    [quote]I can remember a time when people would get hyped about it[/quote]Yeah, maybe the first few Iron Banners of Destiny 1. After that it's been complaints about the reward economy, Light Level not mattering enough, matchmaking being a total flop or a questline that involves Rocket Launcher kills. Iron Banner hasn't been a hyped up activity in a long time.

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  • [quote]I can remember a time when people would get hyped about it, but from the looks of it, it seems to no longer be the case. What changed? Fundamentally what happened to Destiny that turned its community into a vast majority of spiteful and languishing people?[/quote] I’m still having a great time. Some players complain literally every Iron Banner that it is the worse. The big meme this week is to complain about the questline which I completed on two characters in two days. Personally I think this version of the token turn in quest is better than the last and the fixes arsenal of tricks bounty is far better than it was before.

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    • This will be the first time since D1 that I'm skipping Iron Banner. Bungie needs to inject steroids into IB, it is was too stale & tedious.

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    • [quote]I can remember a time when people would get hyped about it[/quote]😂😂😂 no you can't.

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    • Edited by ExoEight: 12/29/2019 10:59:14 AM
      Bungie became lazy af and greedy,what else did we expect

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    • Bungie became lazy and greedy.... simples

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      • [quote]Fundamentally what happened to Destiny[/quote] Easy answer: They nerfed the fun. Not so easy answer: First, streamers complained that they aren't "special" if anybody can get everything in the game instead of people watching them get it first, making them feel less "special" or "elite", so they took the "fun" of D1 away by suggesting changes to the game that are only beneficial to them/people who play 10-15 hours per day with a premade fireteam (One mode raids/raid revive tokens, Masterwork cores to increase infusion costs and playtime, now "pinnacle" activities). Second, Crucibabies/pvp players complaining every single day about [insert weapon/ability/character] being "overpowered" because they lost a match. Then all the people charging money to play pvp for other people (and all the people willing to pay) made pvp "look" popular (even though more play pve), so after D1 they changed the focus of D2 to pvp/casuals by changing it to 4v4 and giving everybody the same guns (static rolls) and nerfed super regeneration. The pve parts of Story/Patrols/Strikes/Raids were the same in D2 as they were in D1, only pvp/static weapons for balance were changed. This lead to other nerfs making pve slow and unrewarding (like we have come full circle to now with one super per strike again). Third (and Fourth if you want to use the expanded Eververse later in this part), this "bounty grind" is just a busy work "game-in-the-game" to keep people flying back and forth to the tower/stuck in loading screens instead of playing the actual game. Sure, our ships are pretty or whatnot and I'm sure Tess is proud of Fenchurch's inventory, but they could have either made activities reward more XP (Example: 50k XP per strike), or they could have put a bounty tab in the menu in place of the Eververse tab so you didn't have to go pick up bounties/clear postmaster after every strike, but you wouldn't get to see the ship Tess sold you if you don't fly to the Tower 10 times or more everytime you log in, making it seem like it's a worthwhile investment/"reward". Strikes in D1 were more rewarding. I'm still waiting for a way to delete emotes from my inventory since I have no use for them. I've used maybe 2-3 shaders from Eververse. I only use in-game rewards for my ship (Zavala's Authority from strike quest) and Sparrow (Harbinger's Echo from LW). Surprisingly enough, both are D1 designs, so Eververse or most of those vehicles are not needed. Those awful armor "ornaments" are useless, considering the Sunbreaker set was a D1 set. Now these cartoon-like Finishers were added, but serve no purpose other than to take longer to kill things by stopping play and doing a 3rd person cutscene finish. So focus on Eververse is a Fourth change. That's just what "fundamentally" changed. I'm not even going to mention the micromanaging armor/materials, class restrictions, or drip feed seasons.

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      • Shitty long quest are not liked. Cant use your tokens until youre done with the shit quest for reused armor once again. I wouldve gave bungie a break if we at least got new armor. So freaking lazy.

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      • I turned in the four pinnacle bounties on my Titan and got two Wizened Rebukes and Two Gunnora's Axe. Four energy weapons.. I'm not sure if I even feel like doing the bounties on my other characters after that.

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      • I only pvp when iron banner is on but see literally zero point in it now. Season pass artifact already boost my light up so dont need IB for that anymore, any higher light drops i did get are irrelevant when they raise light cap again next season & they put a pointless quest in again to just lock rewards behind. Its almost like there deliberately trying to put players off playing the mode now, it certainly doesn’t draw people to it anymore.

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        • I think it's that rocket launcher quest that all the idiots are crying about. People don't seem to realise, you don't Need to complete it!

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          • Bungie got lazy and greedy.

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          • Just want to say that the PvP algorithm is predictable and boring. Win enough matches solo and you’ll eventually get matched with the worst players ever against a team of average but consistent players. And that’ll continue till you lose enough to get a semi ok team or if you keep loosing the team you get paired will be able to carry you to a win with minimal effort on your part. Till, you guessed it! You start climbing back up and it’s just rinse and repeat. I see why the majority of good players rather play in stacks than solo. You get penalized for doing well. This matchmaking is predictable af. Also, why dose a match start 4v6? Wouldn’t the algorithm know to balance the teams to idk 5v5!? Please dedicate a season to pvp. It’s badly needed! Not just on the rewards side but the back end as well.

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          • Bungie with a dash of burnout.

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          • Alot 😔

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          • Bungie got their hands on a sweet new Random Word Generator and started using it to make all their new quest requirements. Allows them to not have to put any forethought or thinking into them

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          • It’s a waste of time and effort

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          • Nothing new and a terrible quest on top of IB's other known problems. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

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          • Most of the real men have left, and generally all that's left are the entitled spoilt kids. 👍

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            • Im curious why, maybe because its been same shit for last years ?

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            • I think more people are coming to terms with the fact that Bungo is a lazy developer who refuses to add content. Same Guns, Stupid Quests, Same Armor, etc........ Even the fan boys are having a hard time defending bungo. Let's be honest, this game is broken. Constant bungs, Broken RNG, Broken Matchmaking, and above all WORTHLESS MANAGEMENT!!!! They have yet to release and update that hasn't broken the game in some way. Now the EDZ doesn't work, gunsmith bounty, RNG(how many of you got the same item for your IB pinnancle?), matchmaking(Stomp or get stomped), etc..... and what does Bungie do??? NOTHING. Their management has zero standards and is more than comfortable publishing broken content. This game will not survive in the current state. Even the faithful are fed up and departing.

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              • From what I've read NetEase could probably be the issue. A Chinese government run company could have played a role in why Destiny is in the state it's in. Gamers need to follow the money as to why this game is tailored towards the Chinese market. And why Eververse is at the forefront in how the business is ran at Bungie. Bungie needs to show its profitable in order to stay funded. So either accept that fact or just move on it's very simple.

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                • Pajama Pants Happened. #NeverForget

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                • D2 happend to start.. drove many hobby gamers and hardcore players away. Then in an attempt to bring them back they started to up the grind.. pissing off the casual players and not really bringing anyone back to the game.. They make changes hoping they will wor. Instead of asking the actual players, they ask streamers who are invested in their own glory and ability to make money and not on the product of the game. We not have armour 2.0 which could have been so good but, was over cooked and kind of a mess right now.. IB.. no new loot and third time chasing the same armour.. yeah thats exciting.. Matchmaking is a gong show.. its either slaughter or be slaughtered.. rarely is there a decent match.. I remember when bungie changed the engine to make changes easier.. yet.. we don't actually see quicker changes to the sandbox when things get wonky.. There was to be a bow for this season in IB.. but, nooooo something wasn't right with it.. so it will not be out until season 10. I love destiny but, its like watching a young athlete with potential to revolutionize the sport they play.. could be so amazing yet.. just doesn't every quite live up to the expectation nor do anything with the potential they have. WTF happend to us playing how we want? respecting our time etc.. does bungie think respecting our time means grinding for the exact same armour 3 times? or how about busting ass for pinnacle rewards that have no bearing on the game play power level? They want us to have a super grindy game with little to no rewards worth that investment in time, skill, effort etc. I won't stop playing, and most of you wont either because the gunplay is so good, the artistry, sounds etc are amazing but, dammit.. what they do within this world drives us crazy sometimes.

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