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Should Bungie be requesting info from the player base about D3?

Yes, by creating a survey etc...

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No, it's their game.

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I don't an opinion either way.

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I mentioned this a couple of times and it's actually important and it should be really important to Bungie as well. I mean no disrespect in this post, these are legit questions with some opinions that are a huge concern at this very moment. Has Bungie created a survey, poll or anything anywhere on the net, Reddit, Twitter, this forum or wherever Bungie gets their feedback from regarding getting feedback from the player base about D3? This is a serious question and I hope Bungie is not just taking feedback from streamers while creating D3 knowing Bungie literally had 14 million gamers to get feedback from while creating D2. Yet, not one single poll, survey or anything that (I know of took place.) I'm bringing this up because I don't want to see another D2 base game and this company spend the next year on D3 backtracking trying to add what could have been prevented prior to D3 being released just by simply getting actual feedback from their player base. IMO a lot of time and resources were wasted back in y1 because of the changes Bungie thought [b]("we would like".)[/b] As we all know, the weapon slots had to be changed and random rolls had to be added to the game among other things spending that time in y1 instead of working on new content. I strongly suggest that Bungie really tries to get feedback from the player base and apply it to D3 more so than from the streamers. (Yes, they help some, but they are not the only ones that will be buying the game.) Also, if Bungie looked at D1 on what actually worked for the game and see if they can apply that as well. Meaning... [spoiler]Edit: The progression system, please do not ever use the core system in D3, meaningful choices means giving a variety of choices, not limiting choices. A loot system that is similar to D1 that rewards gamers for their time spent in the game. Randon rolls. Skill tree. Primary elemental. Weapon Slots. The economy Using material as a form of currency to purchase items among other things like Motes of light that actually had several purposes. Updating vendors and not just Tess. Adding actually loot to chase like D1, 2 tokens and a blue didn't cut it and never will. Strick specific loot. Normal and hard mode raids giving both hardcore and casuals gamers a choice like D1. The RNG should not be tied to just about everything in the game like titles etc... If there is going to be another collection set it up like the machines in D1 that allowed you to acquire the items you already acquired.[/spoiler] There is a lot of things from D1 that worked well for the game that can work for D3 as well, I'm not saying use all of it, but IMO it would be smart to use what actually worked for the game and look at what most of the gamers actually enjoyed about the game while creating D3. Edit: It's interesting how some think I meant this forum when I said (player base.) [b]Nothing personal to anyone, not being rude or anything like that, just saying This forum is not the entire player base.[/b] A suggestion before making a reply? Please think before making a reply whether you agree or disagree. Also, a survey is not anything anyone of us has control over, it's just a list of questions and nothing more to give any company other options whether they use them or not, a way to give us a voice if Bungie were to be serious about it.

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  • All this is great, but they aren't even really talking about a 3rd Destiny yet. Heck, as far as we know from their Shadowkeep Q&A with Datto, D3 isnt even in the works at the moment.

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  • Take a look at Destiny 2. It’s where it’s at by Bungie listening to the loudest group and changing the game, piece by piece. It’s SHIT now. The changes to Whisper and Nerfs to all aspects of the guardian, I have no idea what provoked that.

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    • They already are. If you wanna participate, you must be an established YouTuber or streamer.

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    • Bungie doesn’t care what we have to say. I know I am NOT buying D3 on release. I’ll give it a month.

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      • No, it would be an exercise in futility to think that our feedback would change anything. See enhancement core discussion.

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        • What's the point they hardly listen to the community.

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          • I don’t think there will be a D3 they don’t have workforce for 2 major titles NetEase comes first

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          • They'll fly out some streamers and call it good.

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            • Actually depends who bungie are getting there info/opinions from. Last thing D3 needs is another D2 year 1 casual snooze fest. Love it or hate it bungie got Forsaken right cores & all ;)

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              • Yet again I have to reply about this, I agree with you they need to let us players have an area where we can send in ideas. Every company has this really. I have a expansion idea I’ve been working on since D2’s release and I’m a D1 Day 1 Player... I know how this game works, you dig?

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              • They are tho, go on reddit.com/r/destinythegame and enter the Focused Feedback threads

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                • Lol, you people. Haven't you figured out the internet is not to be trusted yet?? Left to an internet poll this game would become a game of dress your doll up. In fairness it'd still be better than d2.

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                  • No, only take advice from insider streamers.

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                    • I agree with your viewpoint. Something needs to be done about Player/Dev Feedback, and whilst some streamers will have brilliant ideas the facts don't lie that the lack of communication was detrimental for Destiny 2. Currently I'd say Destiny 2 is in a fantastic spot with community hype buzzing for the recently released Outbreak Perfected and Season Of Opulence on the horizon. But what is scary is that Destiny 3 will face it's biggest competition and that is Borderlands 3 which has shown that player feedback and goodwill can lead to an amazing evolution for both Co-Op shooters but also Looter Shooters as well. I think what Bungie needs to do is look at the most dedicated non-streamer members of the community such as myself and have a public Reddit or Bungie Forum AMA to get some feedback for next step. In doing so we might avoid a rushed game like Destiny 1 & 2 Vanilla and as the old saying goes "Third times the charm" so lets hope Bungie can ascend Destiny into gaming legacy with the greats such as DOOM 2016, Halo 3, Borderlands 2, and hell even Dark Souls as both feature obscure lore to find.

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                      • Edited by TheShadow-cali: 5/16/2019 4:58:22 AM
                        I see my post is dropping fast after 1 day when the others have less attention. I guess Bungie doesn't like the attention the forum is giving them. At least this post is known...

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                      • Yes, Bungie should poll their players to find out what they desire for D3. That being said though, one change is crucial for D3. The separation of PVP and PVE. None of this crap where PVE has to suffer because some weapons/abilities are too powerful in PVP.

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                        • I clicked survey as they need to find out from the 13.5 million players who dumped D2 why they departed and what would get them back. However we all know a survey would have stacked questions towards a certain group of pc players, so it should have a big blank section where we can give our honest views on what we like, dislike, want to see in game and maybe a direction for updates. Lol this will not happen or just be ignored as suggestions currently are

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                        • They’ll get all the advice they need from influencers who make a living playing Destiny. It would be nice if the majority of the player base was also heard. I mean actually heard by developers not just a community manager pretending to relay info back to developers which likely never happens.

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                          • I know the Destiny pattern now. I won’t buy D3 on release, instead I’ll wait for the first two shitty DLCs to come out and then I will buy the game bundle when the third DLC that changes everything comes out.

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                          • I understand feedback or suggestion are constructive but when Bungie created Destiny 1...they did not have any player base back then and the game was great. I would say that we let Bungie be creative in their own way. As a player, my opinion will surely go against others. At some points, too many cooks in the kitchen - nothing good to eat. Not only that, some will start to blame on streamers, youtubers, hard-cored PvP if Destiny 3 come out bad. Sad that these days, we always try to "label" someone to point the criticism. Forget fundamentally to self-criticize first.

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                            • Bump

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                            • Also D2 is the 11th most popular Xbox game (not sure about PS4 or PC) and that shows the game is still loved by most

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                              • Lmao They wouldn’t listen anyway !!!! Their big advert has always been “ We make the Game We want to Play “ they don’t give a crap about your feed back , how many times have they responded to fans without some generic blah blah blah copy and paste answer . If you don’t stream they don’t give a dam about you and if you support streamers your just making the game worse . You can thank the idiot streamer who asked Bungie to make cores apart of infusion so you “ HAD TO MAKE A REAL CHOICE “ lmfao well people did thousands left the game !!!! MORONS !! D3 is the thinking that broke Destiny in the 1st place . Take all our HARD EARNED guns and gear again !!!!! Then you can shove D3 up your collective untalented a$$3$ !!! I’m not paying all that cash again to have my loot stolen from me then sold back to me !

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                              • Honestly i think they should make it the way they want but improve some things that you have mentioned and that they know people would like,For instance strike specific loot in heroic strikes not just nightfall(nightfall should still have its own unique rewards) not full armour sets for each strike although that would be cool but maybe 2 pieces of armour and 2 weapons from each strike that could be themed off that specific strike(hive strike - hive themed armour,vex strike - vex themed armour).Random rolls absolutely should be in it from the beginning.Update all vendors with less focas on ships,sparrows and ghosts from Eververse(most if not all legendary ones are reskins) and more focas on weapons and armour from other vendors.Improve on lost sectors(make them better than just a cave or basement) and better loot for them and public events like you said a token and 2 blues doesn't cut it when that's what you get over and over and over.

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                              • Yikes

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                              • I would say its there creation. Which devs who follow there idea and then take feedback post launch is great. The community keeps think they’re goddamn devs and have every say in every decision

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