Disheartening to say the least. If there are certain times to acquire the seals or if Bungie does away with them altogether in preparation for Shadowkeep just imagine how many Guardians will drop out of the Destiny universe altogether. This is would be an incredibly overwhelming and sad future for the title, for those of us who actually put in the time. Why take all of that away? The fate of Destiny's growing playerbase rests in Bungie's hands.

I still need the ghost shell. Ascendant challenge every week on 2-3 characters and still hasn’t dropped. It shooukd have been a guaranteed drop after completion of the 6th ascendant time challenge. At least that demonstrates skill and determination.

I don’t understand the difficulty of just putting all cosmetics or anything in the raid/DC behind a clear wall. Like say 50 raid clears. That way everyone who is truly hardcore will have it, and you can still get good RNG along the way and not have to take 50.

I’ve been 10/11 for Cursebreaker for the last 3 months because of the Dreaming City ship. I’ve been 15/16 for Rivensbane for nearly a month because of the raid sparrow Each week I don’t get one or two of those items I say out loud, “Well, gotta wait till next week”

Been stuck trying to get ghost and ship to get curse breaker for over month it's so frustrating and stupid

I think it would be fair for the triumphs to be updated for example CURSEBREAKER SHIP = complete 15 shattered thrones. GHOST = 30 Story missions. SPARROW = Open 30 chests in ascendant challenges.

Yeah drop rates for raid exotics and dreaming city items is shocking and is blatantly bungie trolling the remaining player base. I’ve near given up hope of getting a raid exotic in D2. The number of raid noobs who we have carried who then get 1k voices is really frustrating - I refuse to help noobs do last wish now as the salt level is so high!

I am in complete agreement that the seals should not be up to chance. I've only ever seen the Dreaming City ship drop from Shattered Throne and it's the only thing i'm missing for my Cursebreaker Title. I ran it 5 times this week (3 for myself, 2 to help a friend get Wish Ender) and one of my teammates got the Ship on his first try, while i've done easily over 30. It's very depressing having the one thing you WANT/NEED locked behind RNG. The repetative grinding for the Powerful Engrams each week doesnt help either....it's just depressing in my opinion....and if you don't get it from Shattered Throne on any of your 3 characters, you have to wait 3 weeks to try again and see if your luck holds? To me that isn't fair.

At least we’ve got official gun replicas coming, and they were caught off guard at how popular they became

While I agree RNG for seals is bull shit, Bungie has made progress, for instance the Platinum Starling Ship(like it says in the description) could have been RNG drops from the Gofannon Forge however it’s actually tied to completing the triumph for forging 100 Forge Weapons. So i guess there is evidence that Bungie is already making the changes for future content. But they also haven’t done anything about the ‘older’ content. So 🤷‍♂️.

[quote]As one of the many players who have yet to get Rivensbane/Cursebreaker due to missing one or more of the rare RNG drops necessary to complete the collection, I think Bungie is underestimating how frustrating of a situation has been created. With exactly 2 months left to complete these triumphs and redeem the codes to buy the Physical Seals on the store, the chance continues to increase that a great many of us will be locked out of purchasing them through no fault of our own. These memorabilia are specifically marketed towards Destiny's "Hardcore" players -- The same people who sherpa raids and the whisper missions, dedicate hundreds of hours towards progressing our characters, and chase day one completions of endgame content. The fact that it's entirely likely that a great many of these hardcore players will not be able to obtain physical mementos of their investment in this game despite maximizing their possible attempts at these drops every week is frustrating and somewhat disheartening. It feels like Destiny is telling me that it doesn't respect the time or dedication I put into it as a hobby. Even if Bungie has learned this lesson and addresses this in new seals going forwards, they cannot ignore Cursebreaker/Rivensbane. These NEED to be fixed, and it has to happen before a large number of players are locked out of the possibility of purchasing the physical seals. From my perspective I can think of 5 possible solutions to this problem that Bungie has: 1. [b]Greatly increase the drop rate on these items[/b]. If this is to be an effective solution the drop-rate needs to increase to about 20-25%, and it needs to happen SOON. Currently the estimated drop-rates I've seen for items such as 1KV and the DC Cosmetics are about 3-5%. 2.[b] Implement RNG protection for these Items[/b]. The drop-rate needs to increase by a Significant amount for each completion in which the item isn't obtained. Considering how little time is left to get these items the increase in drop rate needs to be about 5% per failure, maxing out to 100% after approximately 18 or so misses. For the Ship from the shattered throne it needs to be even higher, considering we have only 9 more tries before the deadline (and that's if you include this week) 3. [b]Guarantee these items from certain difficult triumphs[/b]. This idea has gained a lot of traction, and I think for good reason. It feels good to be rewarded for performing difficult gameplay feats, and knowing that you actually earned your gear. Reward 1KV from Petra's Run, Reward DC ship from solo Shattered Throne, etc. The only possible limitation I see with this idea is whether it's technically possible for Bungie to retroactively reward these items for triumphs players completed and redeemed weeks/months ago. 4. [b]Allow us to grind for these items[/b]. If we can run the content as many times as we want in a week for more chances at the item dropping, then the low drop rates are less of an issue. Sure, it may be tedious to have to run the ascendant challenge 30+ times to get the cosmetic item to drop, but at least it reduces total gambling to a test of patience. 5. [b]Remove the these items from the requirement for the seal[/b]. It might still take me until July to get 1KV this way, but at least I won't be locked out of getting the title and purchasing the seal. dmg and cozmo, if we could have some sort of communication on this topic. I've yet to see it addressed as a possible issue anywhere (although it's entirely possible I just missed it). I'd like to know if the dev team is at least aware that this is an issue that a significant number of us are concerned about. Please, pass it along.[/quote] I could have got cursebreaker when wishbringer came out, 12 weeks ago? But I still can’t get the ghost. 3 asc/story a week for 15 weeks. Why would something so trivial be so hard to get?! This ghost, which I’ll never use, is Harder than any weapon I’ve ever grinder for on any game I’ve ever played

Lmao, 🤦‍♂️