Listening to just a few players it seems to be a good balance move... or mode... call it hardcore call it balanced mode call it TY Bungie we needed a balanced pvp mode but make it so... :) unfortunately it won't fix the skating SG poop but it will bring a lot of needed balance to the game and create a more skill based format... cheers to all the hardcore pvpr's ( I'll check in in about a month to see if I share a common idea or feeling about keeping D2 pvp alive and well for all ) side note ... rid of spread SG's and keep slugs... ? B)