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Edited by Ratz:
12/28/2018 12:21:35 AM
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Okay, Nerf/Buff Argument is getting old.
Stop the Nerf train. Seriously. It gets old and is only hurting us. You want to Nerf Telesto, congrats you just killed it for pve, and just you wait till you get crossmapped by a god roll Erintil FR4, then the Nerf train will move on. Sleeper! Sleeper took a hit because of Gambit. But now that people have gotten forsaken exotics, Queensbeaker is honestly worse. So what do we do? Nerf it! There are countless cases of all this.
Now how about this:
Disclaimer: We need BALANCE! I'm not saying nerfs or buffs are not necessary, I'm just saying instead of nerfing sissors because you are paper and are fine with everything that rock does, how about we look at everything with bias aside. I like autorifles, should autorifles be able to out gun shotguns in shot gun range because I like autorifles. No.
Rules:
Exotics are Exotic
Pinnicale weapons are top teir
Legendary is average
Step 1: Now we follow those rules!
-Queensbeaker is exotic, and feels exotic and is slightly better than all other linears. But that's okay because it is exotic
-Lunas Howl is a pinnicale weapon. Does it out do just about everything, yes. It's supposed to.
-Bygones is a legendary, should it out do any exotic or pinnicale weapon. NO. can it be good and reliable, yes.
Another rule: nerfing is USUALLY WORSE than buffing
Step 2: Now we follow these for weapons in the same category
- Redrix vs Lunas: is Redrix outclassed by Lunas, for the most part yes. But instead of nerfing Luna's, how about we fix and maybe slightly buff Redrix? Yeah?
-Breakneck & Loaded Question: now this is a tricky one because it is not the same as Luna's and all that. Does breakneck do its job, yes. Is it a pve gun. Yes. Now that being said, is it a pinnicale weapon, not really. It is slightly better. But not a great amount. Should we Nerf all other autorifles to make breakneck better? NO! How about we just show break eck a little extra love. Same for loaded question.
(I am not a game designer, and suck with comming up with ideas of how to fix it. But maybe take away the damage Nerf when onslaught is active and start with that?)
We can apply this same thought process to everything that everyone is trying to Nerf.
Shotguns, even armor too!
Now ask yourself, is Luna's really overpowered? Or are letting them gun you down.
Or is Queensbeaker overpowered or are you sitting out in the open when you're invaded?
Instead of nerfing the daylights out of everything how about we take a step back and actually try to better the game. Look what we did to Ursas, what it a bit strong... Maybe. But did it deserve to go to the vault to never be used again. Hell no. I hope Bungie is using this same way of thinking and not just doing things because we asked for it. Just because a gun is good. Doesn't mean it needs a Nerf. Most of the time a buff of 1 is better than a Nerf of 5.
You catch my drift?
Now stop. Please don't ruin the game. Focus on the stuff that matters, and if you're getting killed by one thing more than anything, find a counter and ajust you're play style.
I get killed by shotguns alot. Like alot. Because I suck at pvp. But I found paying attention and a quick tap or two from a handcannon will usually do the trick.
That is all.
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10 Replies[quote]We need BALANCE![/quote] Then proceeds to justify imbalances in the game based on a tier system. Really? “Balancing” the game isn’t justifying imbalances. It’s finding the right middle point of buffs and nerfs to where the thousands of weapons that are in the game can all be used well enough, without a select few running rampant, exotic, pinnacle or otherwise. This entire thread is hypocritical. You say that buffing is generally better than nerfing, then go on to say in other responses about how things should have their attributes “tweaked” in order to bring them down “1 or 2 levels.” Using the word “tweak” does not change the fact that something is a nerf or a buff. I get it: Bungie goes way overboard when nerfing stuff all too often. I’ve played the game enough to see that. But demonizing entire posts based on the word “nerf” is just as bad. You can do that to the idiots that say crap like “nerf X to the ground so nobody ever uses it again; I never want to see it again,” fine. But when I take the time to say what needs to be nerfed, why it needs to be nerfed, and give exact damage or attribute values of how something should be changed, at least give me a semi-intelligent rebuttal of what should be done. Don’t just shout me down like another anti-nerf NPC that has about four different pre-Programmed lines. I actually do agree with your view that more things need buffs as of now than nerfs. But that doesn’t mean that things don’t need nerfs at all, or that anyone who thinks something should be nerfed should be shouted down as “ruining the game,” especially not when the nerfs are well thought-out and generally reasonable. Just a few things that I think you (and the larger community) should consider when perusing the Feedback forums.
