Here is my problem with the OP. In the body, you cite having “wasted 4 hours” on Riven with people who “supposedly knew what they were doing” only to find they’ve only ever done rocket strat. You then continue with the “problem” of having to teach “up to three people at a time”. Therein is my problem with some in the Destiny community. Here is the deal: like it or not, nothing used in the rocket strat is an abuse of tools offered by the devs. Granted, you could make an argument that using the “joining allies” room should be patched - but even so, all that does is eliminate the 50/50 chance that Riven shows up in the “wrong room.” Even if it were patched, the strat would still work, if maybe a little less predictably. The bigger issue I have is the myriad of “#knowwhatyourdoing” and “#experiencedplayersonly” posts. Wanna know how to get a bigger pool of competent players? Learn the patience to teach people. You can’t complain about people not knowing a proper mechanic and about having to teach players in the same breath, it totally discredits you. Yes, it sucks having to teach a new player every single time. But may as well do that now while the raid is relatively fresh. This elitist attitude is not new, and is not unique to Destiny. But really, are you part of the solution or part of the problem? Statistically, the majority of players will not even attempt a raid. I’d like to see that changed. And before you point fingers, yes I’ve done both strats. I had to be taught at some point, most of us did. Quit hoarding your knowledge and looking for the easy win. Otherwise, all your “#dontsuck” posts aren’t any better than the rocket strat. Just my .02