We play together and we hear each others' children playing, shouting, crying in the back, we hold our ground while someone suddenly drops the control to go change a diaper, clean puke, put the kids to sleep, or if someone needs to completely drop out to go deal with life... AND WE DON'T WHINE ABOUT IT That being said, being a dad is not a requirement, being an adult about gaming IS. We play games to relax after work (at a job or at home, family is also hard work). We all have had experience with annoying little punks insulting, criticizing, shouting into the mic, sending threatening PMs. So we come together here to stay away from them. There are also lots of different levels of skill. We believe the only way for everyone to get better, is to help them get better. So if someone screws up, has no idea what is going on in a raid, gets killed a few too many times, can't complete a quest on their own, can't jump through a jumping puzzle... we help them, we teach them, we are patient... And when all is well and done, it's a go for a little banter! AND WE DON'T WHINE ABOUT IT Destiny, as cool as it is, it's just a game. Real life should and will always take priority one. So if you don't have a life and gaming is everything to you, you can turn around and go somewhere else. Discord https://discord.gg/FfbgVc9 https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2003013