Let's step back into the glorious days of 2014 and the very first Destiny 1 Iron Banner. Everyone was so happy and excited! This board was a positive place, before Destiny 2 ruined everything! Here is a thread: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/72044995?sort=0&page=0 [quote]Edited by DeeJ: Oct 8 2014 4074 56 DeeJ How was your first night in the Iron Banner?[/quote] I can't wait to read everyone saying "DeeJ, we loved it! I hope nothing ever changes!" So let's have a look ... (I should note, this thread lasted a long time, and some comments are from 2015, others from 2014. But either way, everything about Destiny was super-awesome until D2 came out, so it will all remind us of the good old days!) [quote]Dear Bungie representative, I can say with great distraught to you that I honestly think iron banner is a waste of my time. Why you might ask? here are a few reasons I have concerns for you....[/quote] (Wall of text follows.) Hmm. There were walls of text in 2014? But everyone was thrilled back then ... well, there's always an exception. Let's keep reading. Maybe we can find some talk about all the great gear that used to fall like rain back before D2! [quote]The majority of my iron banner matches were being added to a losing team and then struggling to get kills period against a team with supers and heavy weapons. Never got any gear or anything out of it[/quote] This guy obviously did something wrong, because for most people, I'm pretty sure it was pure fun, with great rewards ... let me find a good example of someone who felt that way ... [quote]Shadowshot glitch has ruined the crucible experience for me entirely. I'm not going near PvP till this is fixed.[/quote] Well, glitches happen. The game was new back then, and this Iron Banner was the first serious PvP stress test of abilities, so this is no big deal. Except, oh, wait, this was a later comment, from 2015. But, um, well, Shadowshot was new in 2015! Mistakes happen! Let's see what else guy said two years ago: [quote]To stay on topic, it feels like regular crucible. The power difference doesn't even matter. Red death still has the same time to kill if I'm 298 light or 308 light. If there is a difference, it's so marginal that I can't even tell.[/quote] Hmm. I am pretty sure that Iron Banner was totally different from regular Crucible back then. This guy must have done something wrong. Maybe he was in regular Crucible and only thought he was in Iron Banner. Let me find someone else to illustrate how great it was back then. [quote]The level advantages are insanely minuscule. Impossible to notice. Also, the drop rate is way too low. Also, the gear sucks.[/quote] But level advantages were great! I have read so many people talk about how D2 removing the level advantages ruins everything so that must be true! This guy from 2015 must have done something wrong. Let's just grab a bunch of old comments from different people to put a smile on our faces thinking how good this used to be. [quote]Overall lack of incentive to play because of underwhelming rewards and a frustrating experience.[/quote] [quote]Screw you guys and wasting my time.[/quote] [quote]i played a couple games needless to say there was no real reward for playing it.[/quote] [quote]The drop rate was atrocious. It was almost nonexistent. Out of a good hundred games I got 3 drops.[/quote] [quote]Drops are AWFUL. i went rank 1-5 and didnt get a single weapon/ armor piece.[/quote] [quote]1. You lied about the rewards dropping more frequently. 2. Terrible lag that you STILL HAVEN'T FIXED. 3. Shadowshot cheaters. 4. Being thrown into games where you're getting blown out 13000 to 6000. 5. Crucible loot in general has been awful in year 2. Haven't seen a single exotic drop, and when legendaries drop, it's once every 30 games and it's the person in LAST PLACE that gets it.[/quote] Wow, it's almost like some of you guys complaining about D2 got so mad about D2 that you time-traveled back and complained about D1! Because we all know everyone on this board was super happy back then and applauded Bungie for making great decisions! I deliberately didn't copy any names over because that seems unfair, but I wonder if any of the names complaining back then are also complaining today ... hmmm ... can't be, since the people complaining today are always saying how awesome everything used to be! It would be really easy to check, but, why bother since obviously these are different people than those complaining today about how great it used to be!