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Edited by Archival Mind: 10/3/2017 12:25:49 PM
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What Makes the Vex Tick?

By now a lot of people know what the Vex are, parasitic silicon bacteria-like entities that inhabit robotic husks. So let's start off with the milk. The Vex are microscopic organisms that may be silicon based, which would mean that the Glass Throne is actually thousands of Vex "bacteria" formed into a large structure. They either take this form, circulate through an important structure (like Nessus), or take action in robotic bodies. They work in a hive mind, serving the Collective Mind. Considering that they may be silicon-based, their knowledge and programmings make sense. As the Vault of Glass gear implies and Asher Mir proves, Vex Radiolaria is extremely parasitic. It's possibly a simple touch of Radiolarian Fluid could start turning you into a Vex Construct. Asher Mir also says that these cells are self-replicating, which is why Taking the Vex is suicidal. Vex Husks come in many different shapes and sizes. At first glance, they resemble nothing like the Radiolarian Fluid we've seen in their stomachs. Close analysis to one shows wires strewn in their bodies, suggesting the Vex Milk flows through them in order to control them. The Vex Harpies and Hydras differ greatly from the others in the fact that they are not humanoid. It isn't quite known why the Vex take humanoid shapes most of the time, but what is known is that they still make it work. Many Vex constructs seem over the top, like the Goblins large fan or the Hobgoblins horns. Well, those horns actually make them able to sniper you easier and receive messages faster from other Vex. Hydras are large because they can hold the most data in them. Harpies are mere support units, hence their size. One of the most interesting things about the Vex is their ability to transform anything into their image. The prime example is Nessus. It isn't quite known how the terraforming begins, perhaps only the mere presence of a Vex construct is all that's needed. Maybe there really is a Vex structure in every celestial body, if so, then Earth can be consumed in days if they activate it. The Vex can also transform people. Asher Mir's right arm is a Vex arm. According to a description of his status in the grimoire from Age of Triumph, the site where the Vex circuitry meets Human skin is quite grotesque. Asher isn't the only example, however, Kabr also turned into a Vex construct. He drank Radiolarian Fluid, and turned. Also, Guardians who wore the VoG armor sets may have experienced some of the transformation themselves. A Warlock wearing the VoG chestplate woke up to his heart beating to an unknown signal. Possibly the same Guardian recommends to never touch a living Vex, possibly because it accelerates the transformation process. This process is painful, as evidence by stepping in the seas of Nessus. Vex armor is described as feeling more natural than your own skin, so the Vex clearly nailed comfort. Also, thanks to Asher's arm, we can deduce that a Vex's robotic body is actually made of hardened Radiolarian Fluid. So far, there is no way to reverse the transformation process. Perhaps the most interesting thing the Vex do is show emotion and devotion. When faced with the Darkness and the Hive and Taken, they turned to either a shard of Darkness or a captured Worm in order to gain strength. We know this as the Black Garden. After seeing us as being superior, they let us clear the Vault, not being able to do it themselves. Emotionally, the Vex have shown fear towards the Taken. They also feel anger as shown when the Groundskeeper of the Black Garden witnessed his constructs being killed. They also show interest, as Hapax seems to suggest when it goes up and examines Cayde-6 before we kill it. Another example would be their reaction to the crew of the downed Exodus Black. Their plan is to become a fundamental part of the universe, and we still don't know exactly how they plan to do that. If I got anything wrong, please comment. TL:DR - Read it. Master Post: [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/234171689[/url]

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  • Just shoot 'em in the "[b]juice box[/b]" and that is all I need to know about the Vex.

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  • Edited by Patient3591: 9/30/2017 4:32:37 PM
    I think the whole "there is a Vex structure inside every celestial body waiting to be activated" thing, the incredible age of the Vex structures on Sol bodies, and the apparent speed at which their structures are built can all easily be attributed to the Vex's time travel capabilities. Any body the Vex terraform must necessarily be terraformed when they first arrive. Then they go back in time to begin the process of terraforming it so it will be finished when they get there. Also, I would argue that the behavior you cite as evidence that the Vex are capable of emotions is only a case of projecting emotions. That they worship the black garden does not necessarily indicate that they experience genuine religious awe related to it, only that they have observed that this behavior has results which are to their benefit. That they flea from the Taken and lure Guardians into the vault of glass to drive them out does not indicate that the Vex fear the Taken or respect the Guardians' power, merely that their simulations show that they cannot eliminate the Taken on their own, and that Guardians can. As a side note, this is probably why the Vex haven't used their time travel capabilities to exterminate humanity at a time when we were too primitive to challenge them - their simulations show that if humans do not exist to eliminate the Taken in the Vault of Glass, the Taken succeed in invading it and using it to erase the Vex from reality.

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    • Remember the Harpy in O' Captain? That may show that some vex have other interests or capabilities than combat, as he tested you, communicated to you and guided you.

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      • Did destiny 2 mention kaber

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      • I don't necessarily think that they construct things out of radiolaria but rather they act similarly to coral. The radiolaria basically leave behind metallic shells of themselves but not their actual dead selves. Also I know that the vex use whatever material is available to them because in D1 vex in different time lines were made out of better or worse materials depending on where they came from.

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      • i heard asher say once that he hadnt died during the loss of light but even after it returned he wasnt sure he could be revived because of the arm thinking his ghost would register him as vex and refuse the revival.

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      • Another note: All Vex are not actually meant for combat, they all have constructive purposes. I don’t remember where I heard it, but I know that in construction, Minotaurs do the heavy lifting, Hydras usually do multiple jobs at once, and Cyclopses act as beacons of some sort. Not sure about the others.

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        • Posting here to save. Love your content. Keep it up, I hope to play with ya sometime fellow lore buff.

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          • I have a suspicion that VEX do not understand other lifeforms... For instance... The scene with the captain of the Exodus Black. They are testing emotions... Anger and fear are easy..... Even revulsion. Happyness is more subtle but easy enough to understand.... Loss... I do not know that Vex understand the concept of loss...Partly because being quantum entities, they see forward in both directions. You can change the past by modifying the future and change the future by modifying the past. They do not view things in a truly linear fashion. So the concept of loss and sorrow may well be very alien to them. That which was is will be. That which is and will be shall have been. They have no reason to have a concept of loss.... They may in truth be trying to learn to understand a universe which is linear, and it is possible that the reason we find them so abhorrent is because they simply have not come yet to understand that time is linear for everyone except them. One could even argue that many events in the campaign are being portrayed as from the observation point of the vex. Events being inspected and reviewed over and over with different participants in different timelines. The vex... I am not sure, want to be "the enemy"... Nor our allies... They have by and large entirely avoided earth even though they absolutely could take it in the space of hours. It would be as simple as an exertion of will. And yet. We have never seen a single VEX construct on earth.

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            • Edited by Haknir: 9/30/2017 8:25:29 PM
              Another interesting thing is the link they have to exos. On Io, you can find a scannable which your ghost says is a device for interlink between the vex and exos, then he tells you to be safe and not touch it (but where's the fun in that?). There might be one other place mentioning exos and vex, but I can't remember. The fact that both of them are machines puts some type of connection with them that the vex try to use. The area where this scannable is found is also near an objective during a side mission where the vex are hypnotized by Rasputin's music (which is a whole other story regarding the way that mission ends). So they even also have some connection to warminds which they are powerless against, or the warmind forced connections to them, which he also does to ghost.

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              • A sperm sample jar in a mech suit is apparently what makes them tick.

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              • Its the clock they ate.

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              • Edited by KannibalKlown: 10/1/2017 2:53:16 AM
                I don't recall it explicitly mentioned that Asher's arm turned into a Vex appendage due to exposure to the fluid. I thought it was more along the lines of they experimented on him and cut off his old arm and replaced it with one of theirs. And that perhaps it was starting to grow. Now granted, doing so probably exposed him to the fluid. I just doing think it was a simple matter of the fluid turning his old arm into his metal one. BUT I'm on my phone. And looking this stuff up on a phone is a pain in the arse. So maybe I'm remembering wrong.

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                • Honestly these posts are great man

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                • These posts are great. Nice work and thank you 😊

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                • The Vex are just the McPoyles family in more advanced forms, with their strong fascination for warm milk.

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                  • I was under the impression that Ashers arm was severed by Brakion during his fireteams strike into the Pyramidion, and being unable to regenerate it for some reason, replaced it with a Goblin arm when he returned to the surface. We know guardians can bounce back from death virtually unscathed, but non lethal amputations are incredibly rare and as such, are barely covered in the lore (at least from the stuff I've seen and read). Cayde got his arm blown off while helping us board Ghauls ship for the final time, however he is an Exo, and machines can almost always be repaired. It is likely he had his ghost transmat his severed arm to a safe location to be repaired later outside of battle. Or he simply had a faction such as a gun foundry, FWC, or maybe even Banshee 44 to build or aquire a replacement for him. As such, Cayde's example can't be used in context for Ashers case.

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                    • Has anyone noticed the similarities between the vex and the protomolecule from The Expanse?(Netflix and book series)

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                    • What makes the vex tick. Maybe their metal parts hitting eachother.

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                      • So far it's believed that the vex turns things into a vex with contact of this radiolarian fluid. Silica is capable of transferring digital data, we use silica in fiber optic cables. Radiolaria is just like silica, but only this time much more condense and in a fluid form. Planetoids like Nessus are transformed into giant vex by the giant oceans of radiolaria. It's possible this radiolaria seeps through the minerals of the planet and slowly starts consuming it.

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                      • Radio malaria.

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                        • A space parasite! The Flood!

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                        • The Vex are definitely my favourite alien race, I want to know all about them!

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                          • I would love to see a fight between vex milk and SIVA nanites. Most epic microscopid battle ever.

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