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9/27/2017 3:08:49 PM
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No Hatred, but Destiny 2 is Severely Punishing for Solo Players.

I see people posting about being stuck at 300-305 Light (or Power, or whatever we're calling it now...), and I deeply appreciate their frustration while also applauding them for getting to even that Power Level. But for Solo Players, it's even worse in Destiny 2. I can't even get past 269, much less hit that magical 300+ mark. I've been "stuck" at 269 for two full weeks now, with no real hope of progressing any time soon. I understand that the Milestones are there to give "powerful gear", but I'm a Solo Player. The reasons for that I spell out below, and there's really no chance of any of those circumstances changing. - I do the Flashpoints, but that's one item per week, so progression is severely limited with that. - I'm the only active member of my 4-person Clan, so that's limited to my 5000 Clan XP contribution. - I don't ever PvP. I don't believe that PvP should have ever been introduced to any game resembling an MMORPG, and while I am not saying that Destiny is an MMORPG, it's "close enough", and I just don't enjoy any type of PvP. The rest of my issues are that I will most likely not be able to do any of the other Milestones. - By circumstance and availability, I am required to play Solo. The old Clan I used to play with has moved on to a different Clan. I'm the only active member of my little 4-player Clan, and since my Xbox is in my bedroom, I cannot use a headset to communicate with a Fireteam as I am only able to play late night, and my wife is sleeping right behind me. I am loathe to wake her. But because of this, I am unable to join another, larger Clan, as they require (and rightly so) members to ustilize their headsets for team communication. This, I cannot do. - I've done the Mida Exotic Quest. The one for Sturm on Nessus requires a Fireteam as a Strike is the last step, so I'm stuck there. The other Exotic Quests I'm slowly working through. But the 'O Captain' Quest line finishing with a Strike has me a bit skittish about completing the rest of them... but eventually, with time, I'll get through them (hopefully). - The Raid is likewise out of the Question. - The Nightfall is also not going to be happening any time soon. - I don't ever PvP, so the Crucible I will not participate in for the aforementioned reasons. Also, from what I've read about it, the Crucible is extremely unfriendly to Solo Players. - I have only recently reached the 100+ Legendary Shard mark, so until now Xur has been unavailable for Infusion as to utilize his inventory, it would drain pretty much every Shard I had. Plus, I then have to hope that he's selling a weapon or armor that I could Infuse into my Gear. So far, he's sold nothing I could use for Infusion except for a Warlock Chest. In short, while I understand what Bungie was/is trying to do with getting Players to meet each other and "make friends", they've weighted the game so heavily towards that goal, that it has become severely punishing to Solo Players. So, no hate on any of you who have regular Fireteams and Clan activity. Your information is correct and would have been very helpful, but my very situation with Gaming prevents me from doing 90% of the Milestones to advance. Edit = I got my first Exotic Engram in a week and a half last night! It turned into a Warlock Helmet that I already have, and have no use for... It was especially painful because, when it decrypted, it decrypted one -blam!-ing point below the Exotic Helmet I'm already using... I could only shake my head as I dismantled it. Really disappointing.

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  • Not bagging on anyone but I'm at 343 and with the exception of going through the story with a friend, I have soloed everything from Crucible to Heroic story missions (Haven't attempted Nightfall yet). And with a little help from RNGesus I gain ground daily even if it's just 1 point.

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  • I cant do crucible either i don't like pvp you have players trying to kill you anyway without pvp. An bungie put to much in pvp.i haven't done none of the raids either.so i will never get the gear that others have

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    • Ok cupple of things not all clans require mics. Just saying Adults understand like my clan The rat King is only one that requires team. Strum the target is before the boss. So don't have to complete strike . Lfg. No mic required. Also account devlopment or carriers for pve could easily help u complete things Pvp is a separate thing from pve. Unlike mmorpgs which bungie hates destiny being compared to though I have pvp in MMOs I like destiny 1 ablity and skill based crucible I can't say play d2s B's with out team. Unless you've mastered monkey see monkey do to be honest you post is both an excuse to fall short and not try as much as a cry for direction and help though I can sympathize. With your situation I can't. Say. Your right you have options. You have to take time to look. I've done many raids flawless runs with guys who can't talk can u text. Fast. Can u hear us. Can you use the direction pad to communicate all things u can learn.

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    • I can relate in some level to parts of your post, understand some of the replies to your post and also absolutely disagree with parts of your post and many of the commenters below. First off, for all of you saying to move the xbox out of the room or to talk while the wife sleeps - get off your high horses, try on his/her shoes for a moment and at least LOOK like you are trying to relate or understand where s/he is coming from before blabbing on about how everyone else should do exactly what works for you. I'm sick only playing xbox @ night after the wife and toddler are asleep, cannot guarantee 5 taught minutes of playtime without having to get up to deal with a screaming child who won't sleep through the night (thank you toddler separation anxiety) - fb means any public activities likely hold the weight of disappointing people when i have to leave during a boss fight or just as our team is FINALLY in the lead in crucible. I can ONLY play in the bedroom because I only have 1 free monitor that is too small too see from the living room and did too serious back issues am forced to sleep/sit in a special reclining chair - which happens to be in the bedroom with my sleeping wife. I wear a cheap headphone that has to be near silent because even with ear plugs, a sound making machine, a fan, an air conditioner/heater, etc, she complaints that she can't sleep because she "hears talking" so that rules out by kind of play where i talk into a mic or have it loud enough to hear my team. I don't have the time to give to my clan what's required and likely am only kept because i once was an admin that was capable of giving several hours a week to walk thru teammates and potentials thru raid activities (regular and heroic) during D1. not complaining about my situation, but merely stating the facts. I'm unable to play during the day because of work and responsibility taking care of a 2 year old. if i have time to play, then there's things that are more important and higher priority. I get to play at night ONLY because i get night duty worth the cold who wakes up between 5 and 20 times at night. she has severe separation anxiety and night terrors, frequent ear infective and is leaving thru her molars, is too young to understand explanations and gets sick frequently - this also means many sleeps nights. however, i take the time to play d2 or get more work done at night time to keep me awake so i can handle the toddler when she freaks out or wakes up - otherwise, i'll fall asleep and not hear her. this is the cost of chronic back pain even after 1 failed neck surgery, 1 lower back surgery, several failed injections of steroidal cortizone shots in my neck and back, frequent migraine attacks, inability to continue working the standard 9-5 job use the last 3 16-hours-per-day jobs are nasty messed my back/neck up in the first place. Sooo, my spouse now brings home the bread, I work lots of small contract jobs to pay the medical costs and keep our savings in check, watch the child during the day, take naps from about 4/5 am till about 9 when my use goes to work, rinse and repeat, then pull the night shift. Given that I ONLY have time to play when I'm not coaxing my child to sleep at night, or sleeping for a few hours in the morning, working during the day, raising a 2 year old in between contract work, etc - as well as only being able to play from my sleeping chair on a tiny monitor in my bedroom with my spouse who wears an eye shield and social ear plugs with a noise machine, and unable to do activities that take longer than a few minutes at a time and creating getting kicked off i run away for a few minutes to several hours helping my child.... Given all that, I've STILL managed to get myself to 282 light even when using my preferred energy weapon and gear, and 280/281 if i use all 3 of my preferred weapons. My tricks included running from event to event - picking works that are inhabited by other like minded event scrubbers - doing easy ones if alone to make heroic - popping token rewards one at a time to make sure i level up before each engram i pop - i run iron banner for the daily challenges and pvp for the quick weeklies, patrols are my rice and events my beans - for stock at the 265-270 range feet of the stock missions and patrolling only the EDZ before moving out to the other worlds and activating patrols (blocked behind a mission chain on another world) which meant i want just hunting for events and chests when i played. i added in other missions and then hopped on pvp and somehow managed to get thru the 2 strikes for my milestone and 2 pvp missions for that milestone. A little bit each night, knowing very well some nights would be a wash, others i would have to send apologies to randoms via private message later for bailing @ the boss or during a competitive pvp match. Raids and Trials of the Nine are pretty much ruled out for now - to get that chance, I'll have to level up higher, get practice in, watch some YouTube videos, and then plan with my wife a month in advance to get a full Saturday to run thru a raid and then find a group of randoms via the guided game mechanic to do a raid run, a nightfall, and maybe even lfg for a couple chances at "trials of nine" and hope it doesn't fall on a weekend that my toddler or wife or I am sick, that it is not during a contract period because i have to work weekends to get enough time alone and distraction free to get my best work done, and that nothing comes up that requires us to visit another city or requires my wife to be unavailable, asks make sure that i also plan time for her to get a full day's break free from toddler responsibility as well.... my point from all of this is that there are some limitations in your list that may not be easy to change or even worth finding a way around. there are some limitations in your list that sounds soft and pliable - or day you can work around if you truly want to play aspects of the game you cannot right now. there are things that i can relate to and things that i cannot relate to personally but can understand where the frustrations come from.

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      • Edited by ggglat: 11/20/2017 2:47:54 AM
        You kind of lost me at "PvP should have ever been introduced to any game resembling an MMORPG". This statement makes literally no sense to people who play mmorpgs. Its a progression based game, why would you not pit that against others while playing...? Seriously, 2 weeks at 269 is on you.

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      • also if you ever try pvp on there you'll find 99% of them are scrub's lol like really bad surprisingly bad it's all kid's that cant aim or watch a radar they just camp a corner and midi as a team its easy to flank scrub team's like that and grenade them or super to get multiple kill's it's really easy for solo player's most unless your team are feeder's or bad kids that can't cap against a bad 4 man clan midi team

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      • ??? ok i read this assuming you were going to mention real issue's with destiny 2...like the limited number of nightfall runs for solo players that literally stops their milestone progression for that every week or the unacceptable wait time for leviathan solo queue...not this... lol look dude you can easily do crucible stick to quickplay and as for strikes that's cake and you don't need a mic or a premade team i feel your pain dude i hate destiny 2 and its aggressive push to force me to interact with odd, hyperactive, triggered, random millennial's in order to progress sometimes but that's really only regulated to leviathan and nightfall man the rest you can do (i have literally the same issue nighttime player and wife next to me i play with no sound no mic and all my characters are above 300 completely solo)

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      • I am a solo player and have no problem with that. 304 light now. Even crucible is easy most of the time. And i dont use mida /uriel or last hope.

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      • You dont need a fireteam for sturm. You just need to kill a sevitor thats in the room before the boss. Sounds like you just keep making excuses.

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      • You could always use the creation of new characters method. It's tedious but if it's higher light you seek it works. Start by creating the same class 3 times. Get to 265 on the first character, then start the next, do only the campaign up until the Utopia mission, then grind public events until you hit level 20. Switch all your highest light guns and armor over, finish the campaign and then do call to arms, flashpoint, and nightfall. After all that you will be higher light than your original character. Then start the 3rd and repeat and the 3rd will be higher than both. Then delete first character, and start over. Do that a few times until you max light, and then delete the 2 lowest light then start the other classes.

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        • It’s good u are doing flash points mate I would give pvp a good go as it is fairly simple other than that try to search for a clan that doesn’t require communication. Also complete heroic public events for those exotics as they help that about it though I haven’t done the raid and I’m 296 so give everything a try but other than that it’s just down to u.

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        • https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2647920 We will help u

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        • Why wouldn't you want pvp in the game? I think this game needs matchmaking for everything.

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        • 300 light Did nightfall, raid, and pvp all with randoms

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        • Edited by StpME: 9/29/2017 7:48:50 AM
          then join a new clan try pvp and see if you like it start farming heroic events try guided games dont be a victim the community will always be toxic and complain so try it for yourself before deciding

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        • You can completely solo and level if you put on the effort. I have three characters, titan 298, Warlock 298, Hunter 295. I just finished milestones on the first two, I'll do the Hunter in the morning and he will likely hit 298 or better as well. I do everything solo, I'm part of a clan but I've not yet participated in anything with them as I play at off times. The powerful engram from doing your personal clan contribution is thge best thing you'll get from a clan and that doesn't require people. Flashpoint are easy and your already doing that. Crucible has been made easier to do as well. It takes me roughly 5 games to do the milestone. I start the day by running events for flashpoint and get my clan xp to about 50%, five games of crucible or so and I've done shaxx's milestone and completed the clan xp. Both of those things also randomly can drop exotic engrams(got one today from Crucible). All said and done I head back to the tower and get 3 powerful gear packages which contain two pieces of gear a piece. Along with exotics and any other gear alingthe way that may have boosted my light a little my Warlock went from 294 to 299 in about two hours. I swapped some stuff to other characters and he settled at 298. Pay attention to your gear, legendaries with legendary mods give 5 bonus light, infuse into these rather than replacing. Get to 280 and you can buy legendary mods. Even when rares drop lower, pay attention, if your current item is modded it's base light may still be less so infuse to raise it. Sturm quest can be done completely solo, I've done it three times. Drang as a legendary will drop at higher light as will sturm, wait to do exotic quests till your 280s this will keep you going. The only hard part of sturm quest is the strike which you can solo, you don't even need to fight the boss you just have to kill a servitor in the room before the boss then quit. Utilize other characters, even different classes, swap higher gear over to them to advance them quicker and do exotic quests at higher lightvto get higher light rewards. I know everything in the game seems to scream play with people but it's completely possible to do fine solo. Note to date, I've not done the raid or a single nightfall, I've only done weekly milestones and done everything alone.

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        • You're limiting yourself. Play the PvP for the milestone. You don't need to finish the strike for Sturm. Just kill the servetor before the boss. You can easily solo it. I don't buy the milestones not helping you much. Always infusion or higher gear...always. So it'll come eventually. So you're limiting yourself.

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          • [b]Do you want to enjoy the benefits of a clan but don't actually want to interact with anyone else? Then Axiomatica is the clan for you. Platform really doesn't matter, read on to see why. Current clan rank [ 3 ][/b] "[i]A clan for people who don't like clans...or social interaction...or people.[/i]" https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=693883 About us: [spoiler]Axiomatica is a clan for people who don't like clans. We act as a single name under which players can enjoy the benefits of a clan rank and banner without ever needing to interact with anyone else. We don't have regularly scheduled meet-ups, heck we don't have meet-ups at all. We don't need or desire to run raids, or strikes, or trials together. [b]Members are expected to follow 2 simple guidelines: 1. Regularly contribute to the clan rank as much as you are able. 2. Be nice.[/b] Axiomatica's leadership reserves the right to ban any member from the clan for any reason, but as long as everyone's playing nice with each other there really should never be a problem. So come alone or bring your own group of friends. Noobs, pros, young, old, chatty, mute, purple, green, a literal cat with internet skills, we don't care. All are welcome to independently operate under the name Axiomatica. (^_^)[/spoiler] If you... [spoiler]...are shy, introverted, anti-social, or otherwise just not fond of people then this is the clan for you. ...are generally too busy to commit long stretches of time to playing with others then this is the clan for you. ...don't care about raids or trials or any other endgame activity and just like to play by yourself then this is the clan for you.[/spoiler] To be perfectly honest and upfront about things... [spoiler]Do not join Axiomatica and expect to find a group of people willing to help you through endgame activities. It's not that we're not nice people it's just that we prefer to keep to ourselves. Being a place to find a fireteam is not the purpose of this clan. [b]Axiomatica aims to be an oasis for those who don't want to be bothered by constant fireteam invites and regularly scheduled activities[/b]. Feel free to contact other members just don't be surprised if you don't get much of a response back.[/spoiler] [b]If you think Axiomatica will be a good fit for you then please click the link above and apply.[/b]

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            • No one can force you to get the most out of a game but if you want the most out of Destiny you will have to find a solution to your self imposed limitations. Not every clan, activity, or situation demands a mic and the activities that do, you could probably find a way to schedule time to complete at a convenient time. If it's social anxiety then find a clan of like minded people with the same issue you'll be surprised how eventually everyone starts to talk when needed. We had a guy in our clan who never spoke, sometimes he would join the party and ten minutes later we would forget he was there. None of us ever forced him to speak and you know what? Now he won't shut up half the time. Not once have we ever considered excluding him, not when he was quiet and not now that he is chatty.

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              • If you PM me your gamertag my clan will pick you up and I can add you as a friend to help out. We're all adults and always ready to help!

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              • [quote]In short, while I understand what Bungie was/is trying to do with getting Players to meet each other and "make friends", they've weighted the game so heavily towards that goal, that it has become severely punishing to Solo Players.[/quote] I don't think it's nearly as punishing as you think. Being a solo player, there's literally no point to you being a higher power level than 240, 270 being your 'max'. Beyond that, the only reason to seek out higher level gear is to participate in team events, which, being solo, you wouldn't be interested in anyway. Bungie have only aimed higher gear at co-op players to get people into playing co-op. Like you said, that's their focus. They've done well to achieve that, you've reached a very high level playing solo, and there's no need for you to be any higher. Should you wish to persue a higher power level, you're going to have to enter co-op activities, but that higher level is only going to benefit you in those activities. You don't gain an advange over enemies in PvE if you're a higher level anymore, it's purely a 'price of admission' now.

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              • Bungie expects you to play a certain way.

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              • This is a multiplayer game....

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              • So raids should be a solo experience, crucible shouldn't exist, it's too hard to find an active clan and Bungie forced you to put your TV/Xbox in your bedroom. How dare they! How. Dare. They! Go play a game that wasn't designed for an online community. Your logic is like complaining about driving cars in need for speed... Do yourself a favour and go buy Skyrim mate.

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                • I feel you, I literally have to play solo. Much less fun in D2.

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                • Edited by Bamioum: 9/29/2017 9:28:26 AM
                  I'm sorry, but are you completely cabbage?

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