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7/24/2004 12:40:22 AM
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Bungie Weekly Update!!!

[b]July 23, 2004[/b] It's been a busy, busy week. So busy in fact, and so crunchtacular, that basically nobody is really available to chat this week. Sorry. Don't yell/flame/freak out. Sketch was out in New York being a muckety-muck all week, and I got roped into another classic Parsons travel-trap. It involves a passport, and some international shenanigans. Think sauerbraten. Anyway, lots going on in the studio, and I've been playing through a very nice-looking build of the game. I noticed the skyboxes are looking amazing. Skyboxes are basically the sky (duh) designed to look 3D with flitting clouds, translucent fog and a feeling of real space and height. One in particular made me actually gasp as I looked up. 'Gasp!" went I. The skyboxes are often fixed later in the polishing process and a bunch of the placeholders have had big holes in the center for a long time. Probably the ozone layer or something. Anyway, placeholders are becoming rarer and rarer. There's even a placeholder sound. A startling, yet melodic tinkle accompanies any footstep on an undefined texture – that is to say, a texture that hasn't yet has a footstep sound associated with it. I kinda miss the tinkle on multiplayer maps, since it loudly announced when somebody was walking in certain areas. Which you would then blast. With a Brute Shot. "Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle. Whump, whump, whump. Blam! Blam! Blam! Ow." Marty also let me hear one of the new pieces of finished music from the game. It was perfect. Totally inspiring, a soaring cavalcade of angelic ecstasy, tempered with just a hint of mournful longng, and all this to a totally danceable Euro-technobeat….I'm just kidding Marty. It was great. Last week's experimental foray to the Penny Arcade forums was a roaring success, if that is, you judge success by the number of flames, death-threats and pictures of distended sphincters you get. The Penny Arcade guys (who fear to tread there themselves and are super-nice) actually warned me, but by then it was too late. I read about 40 pages of angry flames before I realized that I had no idea what they were mad about. They were complaining about the arrival of the "noobz" yet only a couple of percent of the posts were actually by "noobz." It was a self-powered nightmare, but we all had a good laugh. I've actually been playing more and more of the single player campaign, but last night, playing multiplayer, through my own crappy connection, I noticed nothing. No slowdown, no lag and no garbled voices. It was like playing on a LAN. Wonders never cease. I hope that's typical of how it will be in the retail game. In single player, I'm being distracted by the lovely environments of course, but also by the amount of interaction there is in the levels. There's a lot more use of cover, by both good guys and bad guys, but there are other ways you interact with the environments that are both novel and old-school, simultaneously…. And on that graphics whore note, I noticed two new types of water. One shallow, one deep. Both lovely. Splish splash. I sure do love game water. My favorite all time non-Halo game water? The icy pool in Dead or Alive 3. Brrrr! [b]Adrian Perez[/b] Adrian's bug-fixing has reached something of a crescendo. "Every week we get closer to finishing, which means that every week the bugs I’m fixing are less and less critical.  This also has the unfortunate side effect of making them less and less interesting to talk about.  I added a few gravy features to the HUD so that Dave can work his magic, fixed a few lightmap problems that have been plaguing us since the beginning of time, and fixed a couple dozen miscellaneous bugs.  One cool thing I did was allow the designers script control over the damaging of specific sections in a model.  If they want some scripted event where the left tire of a warthog explodes and goes tumbling away, they will have a lot more control."  [b]Chris Carney[/b] Our multiplayer maven is tweaking, tuning, fixing and hammering on the multiplayer levels.   "Concerning updates, Steve “Land of “ Cotton and I have been spending our waking moments trying to finish up all of new content by next Friday (i.e. content complete).  Included in this last mad dash is some familiar lands, and yes, I can not be more specific.  But let’s just say that we have been spending some serious time with some old friends.  In addition, we are going through all of our maps to try and finalize any outstanding game play elements, and are also deeply involved in polishing the art in the environments to a fine glossy sheen.  One of our major goals in Halo 2 multiplayer is to have at least one or two of the new maps look as shiny as Butkus’s car."   Bam.   [b]David Candland[/b] Our User Interface maestro is getting seriously down and dirty with icons, iconography and iconification.   "This was the week of icons, icons, and more icons. First off, I updated the Xbox Live icons in the friends, clan, and players menus. We needed a special icon to represent a specific team member. Max suggested adding a large sombrero or foam cowboy hat to the friend icon. Although I laughed initially nothing better popped into my head. Fine, sombrero it is…for now. Next, another throwback to the Myth days. Our player level system is getting icons based on the Covenant caste structure. You will soon be able to see how good a player is just by looking at his rank icon.   Lastly, I’m working on refining some of the custom player emblems that don’t read well at small sizes. Sorry, but I’m afraid the shrunken head has got to go. Event horizon is borderline. Flaming Ninja has won the battle of emotional attachment over legibility. He’s in.   So, that's it until next week, when I'll recount my mysterious trip. I know it was short, and a bit limp, so I'll make it up to you next week. Until then, here's Mister Chief reacting to a skybox. It's more of a scream than a gasp… [img]http://www.bungie.net/images/News/InlineImages/misterchiefscream.jpg[/img]

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  • Frankie is lying

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  • Frankie, You realy need to put a pinned post on the xbox forums, because you guys are driving people crazy over there, with the early realese of halo2. WE NEED TO KNOW.

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  • Lol, Pzycho, you are my new hero. Much appreciated.

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  • Okay, I was once a believer in the demo. I no longer am. I just want to question those that are jumping for joy because the fun has been stopped. Do you guys hate having hope? Do you not like to have a little glimmer of an awesome event taking place? Its not like anyone is going to get so excited that when the rumors get shot down they are going to go on a killing spree. This wishful thinking wasn't hurting anyone. What happened to you people when you were growing up? Do you refuse to hold any hope in life because your parents said they were taking you to Disneyland but instead went to the dentist?

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  • I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters I want to hear something actually new, like weapons, maps characters .

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  • Aggreed Fingers McGee, but what happens on the 10th? ILB points to it, yet Frankie didn't say anything about it. Sorry if this has already been said, I haven't read through the whole thread. NO WAIT the release date is tomorrow my sisters boyfriends doctors second cousin works at gamestop HE TOLD ME HE EVEN HAS THE BETA VERSION IVE SEEN IT lol. [Edited on 8/5/2004 2:37:08 AM]

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  • OH FOR GOODNESS SAKE! GROW UP CHILDREN! I agree, this whole "He didn't mention the US" is really starting to get on my nerves, and is a stupid misinterpretation by kiddies. Don't read beyond the lines. The 9th of November is the US release date and the 11th is the European release date. Why on earth would there be two seperate release dates for Europe? Why November 9th for US? (I'm in Australia, we co-incide with Europe) Because Europe is 0GMT, Australia is +8 to +10 GMT and over there in the backwards, mirror-world that is America you are like -6GMT or something. I don't know exactly. Therefore, 9th of November in the UK would be 7-8th of November for the US. And everyone in the US would cry because they aren't getting it first. In essence, we are getting it all at the same time. There won't be no demo either, it's not something Bungie does, or has really done in the past. A demo would simply reveal parts of the storyline which Bungie has been keeping very very secret - I'm not ruling out a multiplayer demo though. Why stuff it all up now? ILB is simply a marketing ploy, a nice fun little game, and something cool to keep everyone occupied until the release. It may reveal small parts of the story or pre-story but nothing more. I'm tired of people reading too much into it. Let Aug 24th reveal what will happen, until then, try to solve the problem or try to solve world peace and stop wasting time - you decide. --IraqiPete 00:59, 5 Aug 2004 (PDT)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kingofpei HOLY SH1T.... xWiggumx is right!!! Go back and read Frankie's post in which he denounces the rumor that halo 2 will be released on Aug 24th. You will clearly see that he ONLY TALKS ABOUT THE UK RELEASE. READ FOR YOUSELF: [quote]Halo 2 comes out on Nov. 9th or Nov. 11th for the UK. It does NOT come out on Aug 24th. You know what does come out on Aug. 24th? Some OXM special which does NOT, and I repeat does NOT have a Halo 2 demo on it. No clue how that rumor gained so much momentum. But to reiterate, Halo 2 comes out Nov. 9th or Nov.11th for the UK.[/quote] Now, all of you retards who still deny the importance of ilovebees.com, go to the website [url]http://bees.netninja.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page[/url] and read some facts. We may well all be playing halo in less than a month... [/quote] Come on people. Use your brains, they are there for a reason. [b][i][u]"or Nov. 11th for the UK."[/b][/i][/u] <--- UK's date! [b][i][u]"Halo 2 comes out on Nov. 9th"[/b][/i][/u] <---- NTSC's (USA, canada) release date.

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  • Did you notice at www.ihatebees.com there are certain letters bolded.... when you pull them out it says "god is watching". that's just creepy

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  • Slimjackson, You really think this is work for them? Do you really think Bungie has to keep tabs on this? They have to do nothing! That is the beauty of this whole thing. They haven't sence they released the trailer. They are just reading these forums for the entertainment. This is probably the most fun they have had during the making of this game (besides playing it, of course). To Bungie, this is probably one big practical joke that may or may not have a result in the end. They obviously planed this for a long time, and to finally letting it loose upon the information starved masses must be incredibly satisfying. If I worked at Bungie, right now, I would be laughing my ass off.

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  • Ok, bear with me here: Put yourself in Frankie's shoes... His JOB is to keep up with the buzz on the forums (pun not intended). There are so many posts already, his job is hard enough. I know when I go to work, I try to make my job as simple as possible. I think Frankie was royally pissed after the new work load was delivered upon him... whether it be by Bungie or Microsoft or anyone. The Frankie in the post sounded about as rushed as the E3 update, and nearing a pure, discernable anger. I think the post he made was done out of anger, a basic, lashing-out due to the overwhelming stress placed upon him with this whole bees thing. Plus, everyone here still remembers Frankie is a FORMER EMPLOYEE OF OXM. For goodness sakes guys, he's established at both parties, I think he's well in the know as to what is going on. Give the man the credit he deserves. And finally, "No clue how that rumor gained so much momentum", for those of you who HAVEN'T figured it out yet, was a cut directed at the naivete of this forum. The statement mixes his sarcastic personality with his dissappointment with the level of intelligence of Halo's fans. He is clearly appalled that so many forum members would fall so blindly for this hoax, and I can't say that I blame him. He's not alluding to any lack of knowledge on his part, he's just pointing out his disbelief at the inability of the general forum population to utilize any form of self-control. Maybe for once in your lives, you should pay attention to what's placed in front of you in black and white (or blue and lighter blue, as it were)... HALO 2 WILL COME OUT NOVEMBER NINTH, 2004... PERIOD. -Slimjackson And as a side note, I don't mean to quash anyone's dreams, I'm simply trying to put it into perspective for the weak minded. If you'd like, you are entitled to have your own opinion. I'm just making mine heard as you have with yours (albeit much too often...)

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  • From What have seen of that bees site, there is only one logical conclusion I can make, because of the large amout of storyline imbeded throughout the site, the logical conclusion is that there will be a book released with a time line set between First Strike and the invasion of Earth, there it too much 'little stuff' for the game storyline. Most people instantly dismissed this, because there wasn't enought time between First Strike and the invasion of Earth, but the period of time of the First Strike book is only a matter of days, 2 weeks at most. Bungie has stated that Chief will have his new armour in the game and it implies that he will start the campaign with this armour, no reference to how he comes about it, a book now will tie up a few lose ends between the end of FS and the beginning of H2. That's all I'm throwing on the table at the moment, my conclusions of what a such said book would contain from the evidence... scares me...

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  • Check out that sites html code also (go to View and click Source). Am i mistaken or does it look like its based in the UK.... [Edited on 8/4/2004 8:18:20 PM]

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  • Please forgive me if this has already been brought up, but the website www.ihatebees.com used to bee restricted. However, now it seems some one has either created it or changed it because it now is the same message as on ILB. I don't think it's part of Microsoft and Bungie's shenanigans though--at least not officially. It looks like it's fan created. Oh, and if you read the bold letters they say something. Coincidence?

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  • in the most recent OXM, there was an ad about the 'Holiday Blowout Issue' featuring everything on this holidays most anticipated games. They said it would be on news stands on August 24th. BINGO!!

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  • wow for guys that really want to get Halo 2 you seem like skeptics......"o no its coming out 11/9 stop your silliness".....people can believe what they want to believe.....dont flame them b/c of their "beliefs"......if they believe its gonna come out the 24th let them believe it......and by the way i believe it comes out the 24th....and if it doesnt....o well at least we stuck close to our beliefs all the way thru

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  • um all i can say is IHATEBEES is that clear i doint think it is any thing but that is just me look in the hipno ness and say bees have nothing to do with halo [quote][/quote][quote][/quote][quote][/quote][quote][/quote][quote][/quote][quote][/quote][quote][/quote][quote][/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tadis http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15& ;id= 117&colid=4193 go to this site, it will change your mind about november 9th. Also fankie said it was releasing on nov. 9th or nov. 11th in the U.K.!!! U.K.! He did not state anything about the U.S., he just said in the U.K. So when is the U.S. release frankie?[/quote] God I'm lucky I don't compete directly with THAT WarCry site. I've never seen such bollocks in my life.

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  • Oh wait, let me guess, where did this rumour came from and why did it came out? mmm wait, oh yea, i think i got it, the fact that you put A COUNTDOWN-WEB IN AN OFFICIAL GAME TRAILER IN USA OF A F****G GAME THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST WANTED , now you figure where the f***k did that rumour came from. Yes, nice puzzle, but I think the imagination of the readers went much further than how simple it is in really.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tadis http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15& ;id= 117&colid=4193 go to this site, it will change your mind about november 9th. Also fankie said it was releasing on nov. 9th or nov. 11th in the U.K.!!! U.K.! He did not state anything about the U.S., he just said in the U.K. So when is the U.S. release frankie?[/quote] ur a -blam!- dumb it means halo 2 will be realeased on November 9th OR if u live in the uk it will be released the 11th u people are so stupid use ur -blam!- brains

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  • Tadis, I think when Frankie said this, he was assuming we knew the difference between the CONFIRMED UK release date and the CONFIRMED US release date. It was CONFIRMED to come out in the UK on the 11th, not the 9th or 11th. And it was confirmed to come out in the US on the 9th. Frankie thought we already knew this (so he did not put the letters "US" in there) but apparently he thinks to highly of some of us. [Edited on 8/4/2004 3:27:42 PM]

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  • requesting more information over the new lightmap engine! Also Duel Wielding, and rankings within the Covenant

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  • here is the [url=http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15& ; ;id= 117&colid=4193]link. [/url]

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  • http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15& ;id= 117&colid=4193 go to this site, it will change your mind about november 9th. Also fankie said it was releasing on nov. 9th or nov. 11th in the U.K.!!! U.K.! He did not state anything about the U.S., he just said in the U.K. So when is the U.S. release frankie?

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  • so i wonder what the OXM special is?

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  • If you go to ilovebees.com and press: View > Source, it says: ^^ META NAME words are the words/phrases that you can search on a search engine to come up with the website. In this case... ilovebees.com.

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