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11/9/2005 11:35:32 PM
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Halo 2: One Year Later

It's Halo 2's very first birthday. We clebrate by taking a look at GASP Halo and Halo 2 running on Xbox 360, and a bunch of other really cool stuff you'll probably ignore because of 720p screens.

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  • Yay My B-day

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FS BURK3 I am here to thank Bungie for their efforts in creating the great game of Halo 2. Although my experiences playing Halo 2 can never compare to the great feeling i got through playing halo 1, I still love Halo 2 and everything it has to offer. GL with you're "next project" bungie, and remember back to Halo 1, don't fix whats not broke.[/quote]I want 2 say cool update it seems like only a few days ago i was playing xbox for the first time and also playing halo1 for the 1st time and Burk3 i agree with you halo1 the guns were fine i think they should of kept the pistol the same before the update i wish they hadn't change the guns so much like shotgun pistol rocket i can see em a little worst but not as big change as in halo2 but halo1 and halo2 are great games great job bungie happy b day halo2!!!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OzkerTheGrouch it's just another money making scheme by large corporations that deprive americans of their intelligence, stamina and mental capacity to succeed in life. i can safely say that the addictveness of this game and video games in general has led to numerous failed exams, countless broken relationships and a total lack of personal hygiene. america is becoming more stupid by the day thanks to pointless artificial intelligence that's only making us dumber. [/quote] OzkerTheGrouch, Gamertag: JumbilayaPimp, [b]Games played = 735[/b] Kinda speaks for itself. Though it does make one wonder about your own intelligence, stamina, mental capacity, failed exams, countless broken relationships and a total lack of personal hygiene. :P [Edited on 11/10/2005]

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  • Congratulations Bungie- You've made the two best video games in history. I still play each one regularly, and I never cease to be amazed at what you've been able to accomplish. So now, you have two really big BLAMMING!!!!!! shoes to fill, don't you? Good luck. I can't wait to see you pull it off.

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  • Oh My Sweet Jesus! You are long winded SOB, EnderShadow. You go on and on and al you say is that you like Halo CE better than Halo 2. Yea we get that. Shut up already. Halo 2 is a Great Game. Have you ever thought that the reason that people are not playing it is because there are more cheaters on the game. Like who gives a Rats @ss if you cheat on Halo CE in a Lan game. you know how to fix that, just get up off your @ss and beat the crap out of the person that is cheating. On line is where the cheating is done. some of us do not like to play with Cheaters and Modders. As for your pistols, they are what they are and just cause you don't like them dose not mean that they are going to be changed back. learn to live with it and shut the hell up. No Brains and Open keyboard make EnderShadow an anoying pain in the butt. No Brains and Open keyboard make EnderShadow an anoying pain in the butt. No Brains and Open keyboard make EnderShadow an anoying pain in the butt. No Brains and Open keyboard make EnderShadow an anoying pain in the butt. No Brains and Open keyboard make EnderShadow an anoying pain in the butt. No Brains and Open keyboard make EnderShadow an anoying pain in the butt. [Edited on 11/10/2005]

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  • Happy B'day Halo 2, gotta say... BEST GAME EVER BEST GAME MUSIC EVER BEST XBOX LIVE GAME EVER BEST DESIGNER TEAM EVER BEST WHATEVERUCANTHINKOF EVER oh and Bungie rocks, will you tell the day and month when bungie started (cos i allready know it started in 1991)

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  • [quote]The best way to describe it is that both games look like they're running on a PC at those resolutions.[/quote] Thats a point, shouldnt Halo 2 be on the PC?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OzkerTheGrouch i heard a quote that went something like "you use your pistol to get back to your rifle." in actual combat the pistol is a last resort weapon, it's not supposed to be a weapon that can kill across a map as in halo "1" jeez you dumbass[/quote] Yes, but i heard that Halo and Halo 2 were both video games that weren't real life, and they were based in the future. Now tell me something. What is easier to carry around... a pistol, or a rifle? Easy answer is a Pistol right? Now, Halo is based again, in the future, in the far FAR future at that. So you are telling me that it is STUPID and unrealistic for the future to make guns that are easy to carry the more powerful weapons? Did you know that the pistol in Halo CE had ARMOR PIERCING BULLETS!! and that it was linked to MC's visor, allowing him to zoom in and out? This is why you could shoot and kill somebody from far away. Now, the pistol also took skill to use. But lets get back to realism. You don't think it is realistic right? OK, i understand that.. But answer me this.. what is more realistic? Having a "Pistol" that is more powerful than a rifle, when the game is based in the far away future? Or.. having a pistol that is more powerful than a rifle, but then marines, and earth decide that the pistol is to powerful, and not fair to use against the aliens that are trying to destroy earth, so they decide to toss away this weapon, and bring back the older, weaker pistols, when trying to win a war where EARTH is at stake? Don't call someone a dumbass, when what you say is not so bright.

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  • My favorite part was: [quote]It's been a year since the launch of Halo 2 - how has the community evolved during that time? Not hugely. We've actually seen our overall traffic go DOWN, not up. [/quote] It's funny, because it's sad how Halo 2 is supposedly the "better" game, but Halo was always gaining, not losing fans.. Halo 2 is LOSING fans, which is why traffic is going down.. Not saying Halo 2 is a bad game.. In Halo CE, there was just much more things to learn.. Seeing as Halo CE took more skill to play, there were always things to improve on, this is why it was constantly gaining fans for 3 YEARS!!!! Halo 2 is losing fans after just a year.. hell, they have been losing fans since the release date. Halo 2 is getting boring for a lot of people.. it doesn't take skill to win a lot of the games, and the people who used to be rookies are realizing that THIS is no longer fun. When rookies or "noobs" as people call them, first start, the love the game, its not hard to play, and they can get kills, or even win games, by just running around and shooting, or just knowing the basic concept of the game itself.. But now, these rookies are getting better, and they are realizing all the horrible imbalances in the game... This is why Halo 2 is losing its fans, and losing traffic for the online community. Now, i just think it would be amazing if bungie decided to make Halo: Combat Evolved for XBox Live.. Now, I'm sure it may be hard to do, but i would garauntee that the sales for the XBox 360 would be even greater. It really should be a news flash for you Bungie. Halo 2 is losing a lot of its fans after just a year. Halo: Combat Evolved was gaining fans over a 3-4 year period. *FLASH* *FLASH* Now, one of the other things that annoys me about Halo 2 is the split screen. Why change it? Halo CE's Field of Vision for split screen was still quite amazing.. In Halo 2, you lose a lot of that FOV. Why change it so drastically? Another part i thought to be funny was the interview with the OXM guy. Of course he isn't going to say, nor would you post it so the Halo 2 community could see, that Halo CE is a better game. You make it sound as if he is joking about the pistol comment. I'm betting he is not. The pistol was the balancer of Halo.. Please, don't even say "the BR is the new pistol" because it's not. I remember the old days of Halo Combat Evolved, where a guy would start shooting me up with a pistol, even getting a 2-3 shot advantage, and me still being able to turn around and kill him because I'm better.. The guy shooting me didn't have a ridiculous amount of Auto Aim, nor did he have huge hitboxes working for him. It's sad that in Halo 2, when you start getting shot, your only choice is to run, and hope the guy will stop chasing you. Sure, you could throw grenades.. but when you realize he is shooting you, he already has 2 or 3 shots, going on his third or fourth when you turn the corner.. There really is nothing you can do.. at least when you play against the "hardcore" crowd. Let me list off the things that *I* beleive Halo 2 has topped Halo on. 1.XBox Live.. but that is just because XBL wasn't around when Halo was released. 2.Boarding Vehicles - This is a good idea. Hold on.... I'm trying to think. To hell with it, i can't think of anything else, if i do, I'll repost, or just edit. But onto what that guy from OXM said. He said the vehicles were better.... Now, I'd agree if the vehicles were balanced... Sure, they made new vehicles.. the warthog looks more flashy, and the ghost has a boost (insert "oos" and "aahs" here). But try throwing a grenade at a warthog or ghost.. guess what.. nothing really happens. Your only defense on a ghost now is to hope he is stupid, and gets in close enough (without using a boost) to let you board the vehicle. Many times, both of my grenades have actually hit the ghost when they exlpoded, but the ghost just shook a bit, and continued to kill me. In Halo CE, if you were to have ONE nade hit, it would FLIP the ghost over, knocking the driver out, allowing you to kill him, and take his ghost.. Same with the warthog. Many times, in Halo CE, they'd be getting away with the flag, but you throw a well placed grenade, and it flips the warthog over, allowing you to kill the driver, and the flag carrier. Not in Halo 2, the game that is supposed to be more balanced.. and "better".. you can actually STICK the warthog, but it will not but shake. Sure, having destructable vehicles was a good concept, but you went about it the wrong way, in my opinion. The vehicles have just as much health as the person/people in the vehicle. Meaning, if you were to shoot someone up until their shields are blinking, and then let it recharge, then that vehicle is also at full strength again. This is why the banshee is a huge problem as well. "Oh no, my shield is halfway down, let me fly away real fast and allow my shield to recharge, then go back".. this is the routine of the banshee. Another thing you changed that decreased balance was grenades. I'm not talking about the length you are able to throw one, i can deal with that. I'm talking about the power behind them, and the different abilities they had. Grenades in Halo CE weren't just used to kill people, they were also used to blow weapons away from the other team, and to yourself or your team. Another thing, and I'll leave on this. Why change the Weapon Spawn System (WSS)? I don't get it. Halo CE's WSS was perfect. Each person/team had the equal opportunity to know the EXACT respawn time of each weapon. This made the game more balanced, and less of a camping game. For instance in Damnation. Camo - 1 minute - Means that every minute the camo would spawn Overshield - 1 minute - Means that every minute the overshield would spawn Sniper - 30 seconds - Means that every 30 seconds the sniper would spawn Rocket - 2 minutes - Means that every 2 minutes the rocket would spawn These are the main weapons/powerups that people "timed".. This gave each team the equal opportunity to get these weapons, because each team knew they were going to be spawning. Now, in Damnation, the majority of the people liked to hold (not camp) the top room. But they constantly had to get the rocket and camo at least to win the game.. Meaning they couldn't just camp. But if we had Damnation in Halo 2, the settings would be different. The majority of the people would camp (not hold) the top room. Camp? Why? Because in Halo 2, the weapons don't respawn on a set timer like in Halo CE. The team who first gets the weapons is the only team to know the exact respawn times of these weapons. So now, not only does one team have the power weapons, they can have them the rest of the game, because they are the only ones who know when they will be respawning. Normally the team with the power weapons in Halo 2 have the lead. So now they can just camp up top, and wait for people to come after them, with no worries of them coming with equal weapons. Now, to go along with the grenade ability previously stated.. people used the timers and the grenades ability to blow weapons to themselves all in one package. They knew the rocket would be up, so they throw a grenade, and right as it spawns, the rocket blows to them. Now, in damnation, it is quite hard to blow the rocket to yourself if you are "holding" the top room. Most of the time, people had to drop down, and throw down some cover fire to get the rocket. It's amazing how everything in Halo Combat Evolved worked together. Was it really a fluke? Again, Halo Combat Evolved gained fans over a 3 year period because of how balanced it was/is, and how much skill it takes to play the game. Halo 2 is obviously losing fans.. and this started LESS than a year ago. So sure, people could claim that Halo 2 is the better game because it sold more copies.. but Halo 2 is losing fanbase after only a year, whereas Halo CE constantly gained fans.. Which is the better game? That's pure opinion of course. But from the looks of things, from the facts, it basically shows that people will play a game for a longer period of time if it challenges them. Meaning Halo 2 isn't a challenging game to play. - Kevin.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spikspaks What happened to the pistols? That alone is my only problem with Halo 2. I mean come on, in Halo one 3-4 well placed pistol shots could put an enemy out of comission, now two whole clips out of a two pistol duel wield wont even kill an enemy unless almost all of them are head or torso shots. What the heck was bungie thinking? You just cant take a beloved weapon and turn it into nothing more than a water gun or a pea shooter. You idiots!!!! That really makes me sick to my stomach. You just dont know how angry that makes me, and I know that i'm speaking for a lot of Halo fans other than myself. This issue really needs to be addressed because Halo 2 was not as good as it was hyped up to be and as far as im concerned the sword SUCKS!!! It is just a bail out for people who have no other talent with legitimate weapons. How could you use a sword all the time and think that you're good? The mere thought of it baffles me. The alien sniper is cool and so is the brute shot but please get rid of the sword and lets revert the pistol back to a weapon of mass destruction and not leave it as a cute little rubber ducky. Just imagine a dual wield of the pistols from Halo 1 that would be great. How about just making a stronger pistol that you have to hold with two hands that way you can leave the -blam!- pistol in and everyone would be happy. I was unstoppable with the Halo 1 zoom pistol and i miss it dearly. I want to be "Re-united and it feels so good". Get the pistol back [/quote] i heard a quote that went something like "you use your pistol to get back to your rifle." in actual combat the pistol is a last resort weapon, it's not supposed to be a weapon that can kill across a map as in halo "1" jeez you dumbass

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  • What happened to the pistols? That alone is my only problem with Halo 2. I mean come on, in Halo one 3-4 well placed pistol shots could put an enemy out of comission, now two whole clips out of a two pistol duel wield wont even kill an enemy unless almost all of them are head or torso shots. What the heck was bungie thinking? You just cant take a beloved weapon and turn it into nothing more than a water gun or a pea shooter. You idiots!!!! That really makes me sick to my stomach. You just dont know how angry that makes me, and I know that i'm speaking for a lot of Halo fans other than myself. This issue really needs to be addressed because Halo 2 was not as good as it was hyped up to be and as far as im concerned the sword SUCKS!!! It is just a bail out for people who have no other talent with legitimate weapons. How could you use a sword all the time and think that you're good? The mere thought of it baffles me. The alien sniper is cool and so is the brute shot but please get rid of the sword and lets revert the pistol back to a weapon of mass destruction and not leave it as a cute little rubber ducky. Just imagine a dual wield of the pistols from Halo 1 that would be great. How about just making a stronger pistol that you have to hold with two hands that way you can leave the -blam!- pistol in and everyone would be happy. I was unstoppable with the Halo 1 zoom pistol and i miss it dearly. I want to be "Re-united and it feels so good". Get the pistol back

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  • I'm too lazy to read through six pages, but can Achronos/Frankie/Sketch/Shishka/Tinman confirm Halo 1 is in true 16:9 widescreen? Could be the screen captures, but the marines/environments do look a little stretched out. All that aside, I can't wait to see what both of these beasts look like in 720p goodness :D . Read the entire article, and "ah, the memories!" comes to mind. [Edited on 11/10/2005]

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  • and i used to be a moder but i never playd match making i only playd costom to have fun with my freinds so ya not all moders are bad most are but i never playd a match made game

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  • im so happy halo 2 is 1 year old the wars thing that happend to me on x box live ie that my girl freind was taken frome me and no it wasnt one of thouse long distans relationships she lives on my block and she went for a guy in mexico

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  • happy birthday halo 2 i bought the game here in the netherlands as soon as it came out and 1 jear later im still playing it with my halo 2 friends i met exactly one jear before..... good luck and keep it up whit those updates bungie :P:P:P

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  • Isen't somthing special sapose to be happening to Halo 2 on LIVE? >.<

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  • Is there any chance of the PAL version of Halo 1 having a proper 60hz mode? Since the game's being rendered at a larger screen resolution is it too much to ask that the PAL version play at the same speed as the US version, with a compatible TV. Y'know, like Halo 2 does. I'd play Halo 1 all day every day, if it was 60hz. And if it isn't at launch, would Bungie/Microsoft work on a future patch for all 360 backwardly compatible games, to make sure the ones which are 50hz only, have a proper 60hz mode. Thanks.

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  • happy bithday halo 2. and dont worry all you loyal halo fans are not going any where :-) [Edited on 11/10/2005]

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  • Happy birthday Halo 2 ....cant wait tell the XBOX 360.

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  • This makes me sooo happy. :) Im part of one of those halo communities mentioned....if you can't figure it out look at my sig. [Edited on 11/10/2005]

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  • Like Perfect Dark said, good one for using Final Cut dudes. Nice to see the Apple connection is still living on at Bungie. Great update, it is quite scary that it has been a year already. Anyone even know of the 360 then? Sorry to create a downer, but I have noticed something.... [url]http://static.flickr.com/31/61859277_ad7ff549f1_o.jpg[/url] See how the pouches are missing on the 360 version? I am sure you guys know this, but just to make sure... Hope you havnt covered this and I skipped past it, just thought I should say something.

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  • Yay! They Used Final Cut Pro. Go Bungie! Go Apple!

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  • Wow that was brilliant, slightly more lengthy than the bible but worth it. It's cool seeing how idea's evolved such as the halo logo, and they sure made the right choice. I cannot wait for the xbox 360 because its one of those creations u secretly find attractive, like ferrari's :D. Anyway another reason is that my xbox is on the verge of pushing up the daisy's, tends to freeze alot and make rather off noises :| Oh and i have to mention, apart from seeing how halo and halo 2 look on the new system i so0o want The elder scrolls IV: Oblivion how amazing does that look!?

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  • 7 Million Sold. No Quiencidence

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  • Like Frankie said, the method that was used to get those screens involved a lot of loopholes and tricks. The screens will look better on an actual HDTV. I think that explains the normal maps looking a bit washed out, but I have no explaination for the missing utility belts and accessries, though. Intriguing.....

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  • Frankie: Can we get a comparison with H2 on Xbox 1 running 480P widescreen? (btw the 480p screenshot file is named 480i, while it clearly isn't interlaced) Also, why does the X360 shot look like the normal maps are much less defined and the some of the soldiers belts and accessories are missing.

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