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7/17/2016 9:23:25 PM
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Universal Remote Hated now?
Right... so in Year 1 all of you people listed Universal Remote as one of the worst exotics. It's quite funny to see it now being dissed as overpowered nowadays.
I believe this is because it's been untouched and everyone is looking at its Exotic Perk and touching themselves because of it. Let me clarify:
[quote]It is NOT Shot Package Year 2[/quote]
It's good, yes, but not as good compared to a Chaperone or a Party Crasher in range. Shot Package had way more range, trust your fellow shotgunner.
Now. This Junker is indeed a Beast, but overpowered is just a dumb statement. You are giving up your primary to have either shotgun and sniper, shotgun or sidearm. Pairing a shotgun and sniper is powerful, but bad in the long run. Want to pick off the guy you primed? Bad luck. Want to trade with the Hawksaw in the corner? Yeah. Good luck quickscoping him. All in all its just bad news. Yes a powerful duo, but not a viable one.
"But NHero, you have unlimited Shotgun ammo!"
Yeah so does Invective and no one cries Nerf at that. In fact any Shotty with Performance Bonus can if your lucky. This doesn't really effect anything. I mean I rarely run out of ammo since special ammo spawns pretty frequently.
Yes, as a Shotgunner myself, I may be biased, but I see no problem here. You are sacrificing your MIDA, Last Word, Hawksaw and whatever else this META uses for an average Shotty. A Junker that with the trained eye is a Beast. If your getting outperformed by a Universal Remote then maybe you just got outplayed. Maybe?
If the Snipers are still gonna Body Shot to Primary, then let the Shotgunners be warriors. Same low skill requirement.
TL;DR
It ain't that bad people.
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I'm still a fan of the IB Retort shotgun. But the Party Crasher +1 is sweeet. This one has a crappy roll, full auto, small bore, danger close but it still has some range to it: [url]http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Quaddity/video/19899999[/url]
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Universal remote was bad in year one because shotguns had more range than they do now. They dropped shotpackage so shotguns like conspiracy theory and party crasher don't kill from as far. But they left the remote unchanged. Now it has more range than any other shotgun [b]if you hit precision shots[/b] it quickly becomes OP for it's ability to map people from farther than any other shotgun. On top of that it has a way better fire rate than a conspiracy theory with very similar impact. And finally it is a primary and can be paired with a sniper. It is too good if you asked me.
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Edited by Sapphire Eye: 7/20/2016 1:49:02 PM[i]" To the untrained eye this beast is a junker, to the trained eye however, this junker is a beast. "[/i]
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Y1 garbage weapons: Mida Multi Tool Universal Remote No Land Beyond Bad Juju Y2 OP weapons: Mida Multi Tool Universal Remote No Land Beyond Bad Juju (before Pulse rifle unneccessary nerf) This is what happens when people keep crying NERF for no reason other than they got killed by a weapon. This is coming from someone that sucks in Crucible but has never asked for a nerf. I HATE nerfs. Nerfs are a cancer to ANY game, especially FPS. No matter the "reason" behind them. JMO
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3 RepliesEdited by Dr Livingston 9: 7/20/2016 12:20:58 PMIts because the philosophy of limiting special ammo makes people use guns like universal to have unlimited shotgun ammo. Universal remote's value is increased because of the less specail ammo available.Invective takes a very long time to regen ammo. Im against limiting special ammo. use what ever you want. i might put on a universal if i must shotgun on a map and dont want to be limited with ammo. I feel nobody should have to portion out there ammo in a Fps. the wait times for special can be way too long.
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year 1 felwinters lie so why would use a unniversal remote in year 1 use a bit of logic
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I like how you were describing Universal Remote.
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3 RepliesIn my opinion the use of a ur is just an excuse for being bad at every single primary in the game. It's also bungies fault for not making primaries viable anymore. "My DoP and nerfed TLW don't wreck anymore, might as well add to the cancer and just use a gun that rewards bad gun skill" Opinions are like assholes though and I don't blame the strikers who use it. Bungo should just rebuff tlw and DoP cause in the end id still rather die to a primary.
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Its not overpowered in the least, its out ranged by the felwinters year two class of shotties, plus it takes alot of skill to actually the use the weapon effectively. Most of the people calling "nerf it its overpowered" just get outplayed or cant properly counter shotgunning thus were doing them a favor by giving them practice
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Indeed. To the trianed eye that junker is a beast.
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I die a lot in PVP and it's rarely to this gun. Leave it be.
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3 RepliesEdited by its Hall Good: 7/20/2016 3:48:39 AMBUMP I used this in year one and everyone asked what was wrong with me and told me I was stupid. Now when I use it I get hate mail. Uuughh
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4 RepliesEdited by netherslayer777: 7/19/2016 5:09:31 PMPeople are coming after No Land Beyond now. Don't you dare! Don't you freaking dare!
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Untouched is a bit of a lie. Pretty sure it's not as good as the year 1 version because of all they did to shotguns. I may be wrong though. Not the best memory.
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4 RepliesChaperone requires precision hit to one shot. Party crasher has less rang Ethan uni remote. Your argument is biased and pathetic. Invective doesn't really get unlimited ammo, only 4 bullets every 20 seconds. Your giving up your primary slot for a felwinters lie in a primary slot. 80% of the maps in the game cater to this weapon. This gun is insanely strong and frustrating.
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I don't mind the gun, it's use has increased dramatically compared to what it was, however.
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It's probably more the broken and dilapidated netcode Bungie made and lag than the weapon itself.
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UR is still one shot kill at 3 meters, party crasher along with other shotguns falls off at 1 meter. Is it OP? on certain maps absolutely. The skill sets always favor specific loadouts and play styles but this is no different from any other 1st person shooter. The only real difference in this game is the focus on special weapons instead of primaries. I don't remember any game that shotguns and snipers dominated the landscape like they do in this game. I feel like OP weapons aren't the real issue for me. People taking advantage of the fact bungie and many other games compensate for bad connections allowing them leeway in gameplay to make the game more accessible to a range of connection types, this is where I find the most issues. LAG.
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1 Reply[quote] Yeah so does Invective and no one cries Nerf at that.[/quote] That is because it takes 2 shots from invective to kill and one from universal remote. I know this from trials this past weekend. 2 shots with my invective and i trade against one shot from Universal Remote.
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I like uni, but I'd roll chaperone over it any day of the week. It's a standard shotgun with a cluster scope. I genuinely do not care to be killed by it lol
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5 RepliesUniversal remote uses an exotic slot. Also, it is used in your primary slot so you have nothing mid range for a secondary. Sure there's sidearms, and fusions, but let's just be honest here... Most of them are trash. I honestly think that universal is balanced the way it is now but that's just me
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1 ReplyIt's not overpowered by default, but on certain maps with the right combination I'd consider it op. Like Defender Titan, plus skating, Thieves Dens, and No Back Up Plans is super annoying to play against and fun to use.
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I was playing control last night solo. Voidwalker, blink, UR and longbow. Went up against a team of 6. Odd because I rarely see full teams other than in IB. My teammates were bad each game. But I was wiping the floor with the enemy team using that combination. Is it op? No. But Bungie are the fun police of their own game and have nerfed anything which can compete with this. It's just so easy to blink and one bang a guy, slide and one bang another, and blink away. Lots of banging guys going on. I know.
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Not going to say it's completely op. But the range on it is pretty re-damn-diculous. As a max armor Titan I've been one-shotted by it while someone was at the peak of their jump/glide.
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1 ReplyEdited by PAYOLARGO: 7/19/2016 5:59:30 AMI HATE IT TOOOO MUUUCH!!! 1ST OF ALL I USED IT AT YEAR 1 AND NO, WASENT A KILOMETRIC VISION...MINIMUM 2 SHOOTS 4 A GUY AT 1-1.5 METER...1SHOOT KILL ONLY CLOSER THAN 1m AND U NEEDED TO DO A HEADSHOOT... THE QUESTION ISNT THE INFINITE AMMO IS THE CAMPER STYLE OF GAMIN
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Anything that kills is too op and needs a nerf.
