I posted this some time ago and thought it was a pretty good summary of my opinion on snipers. Agree disagree have at in the comments of like to fine tune them and bouncing ideas off people is usually the best way for me. One of the big themes is I want very limited res sniping if you disagree please address how you would resolve problems like how discouraged low impact snipers are. Looking for some good discussion not just rants. Here is the original post: [quote]1000 yards archetype is that eirine....I actually don't remember if there are even more than those two and only spindle stronger. 1000 can have over 70 aim assist and eirine barely 30-40. You want to convince people use the numbers I'll have to go confirm the exact ones Snipers are a problem. Lack of diversity in that archetype in a factor making 1000 the best choice by far stat wise and hidden stats like handling wise, bias of archetypes for that impact from res sniping and 3 body shots for low impact, bias for snipers from prevalent special ammo, and lack of competition besides scouts. My opinion what needs to happen is hidden hand removed completely from snipers, flinch increased, aim assist and recentering speed decreased, with 1000 yard archetype getting hit harder and less so as impact decreases. Remove the res shield from the reviver and increase strength on revived to take more than a head shot from all but spindle. And then more diversity within the archetypes so the choices aren't so extreme. Bump up some pulses range to compete in a three gun meta for long range with scouts and snipers. The high impact ones probably. And limit special ammo further. Boxes should fill the mag. No reserve unless you get a second[/quote] I'll also add that all the old legendary weapons should be brought forward to significantly bolster archetype diversity. I also know I need to consider pve a bit more in some of it so I'll be tweaking some changes to better balance that as well. Most of my stat changes are to curb how easy it is to snipe through suppressive fire. Primaries seem to be affected far more than snipers which is odd when shot. Maybe add a thorn like mechanic where a headshot on a scoped sniper makes the screen red or cracks the scope view until you descope.