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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chrisk1239999 When you click download it brings you to this: http://halo2.filefront.com/file/Halo_Trial;24270 That's Halo trial. They have the same thing for Half-Life 2 and it brings you to a Demo. It's just another stupid site.[/quote] pwntpwnt

It was an insignificant typo. Everything else still stands. [Edited on 11.23.2009 3:36 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 Patch 1.03 is possibly the only patch that's mattered to HPC, and all it did was introduce a lacklustre server that should have been there since release. [/quote] 1.03 DID NOT introduce the dedicated server. I posted the release notes right there, jeez. I'm not going to debate this if you can't be bothered to read.

I was there at the very start and remember each of the patches. Patch 1.03 is possibly the only patch that's mattered to HPC, and all it did was introduce a lacklustre server that should have been there since release. Take a look at other games that are far older than HPC yet [b]still[/b] receive support and try and say that Gearbox put heart and soul into HPC. How many times did Gearbox mention the possibility of future updates/content and not deliver on their word? I read the post about the 56k support, and it doesn't wash with me. While I'll admit that I can understand that HPC introduced a few challenges in terms of networking, it was still vastly inferior to other FPS games that were also designed to work around 56k. I was going to say designed around 56k, but then again, most good FPS games can scale somehow. Check the full patch notes. One patch that made any kind of difference, and that was it. You're right about people not playing bad games, but how much of the moderate success of HPC was due to Gearbox? I'd wager not very much. [Edited on 11.18.2009 4:01 PM PST]

Btcc22, I think you are wrong about Halo not shipping with dedicated server support. Remember that you could not play online until you updated to 1.01. 1.02 was the first "real" patch with added features. Read some of this stuff and tell me that Gearbox didn't care... Halo PC 1.03 Halo PC 1.03 is our first update to address some of the most important issues that have arisen since the game was released. Our goal with this patch was to 1) improve the quality of the online experience for gamers and 2) address the most frequent issues gamers run into. This update is also our first opportunity to improve our networking architecture with some of our learnings [b]from our hours of online play.[/b] Here is a summary of what's new in Halo PC 1.03. Note:All updates to the Halo Dedicated Server are documented in the Halo Dedicated Server Readme file, which is available here: Halo Dedicated Server 1.03 Readme Improving the Quality of the Online Experience for Gamers Addressing Team Killing Servers now have a complete team killing / banning system that should significantly reduce team killing online. The concept is simple: team-kill a number of time and you will automatically be banned from the server for a period of time set by the server administrator. Because team kills can be accidental, the concept of grief also exists: following a team-kill, if you don't team-kill again for a period of time, you are forgiven for your team-kill. These settings are customizable by the server administrator(s) using server console commands. In addition to the system above, players are no longer penalized for being killed by someone on their team and respawn time penalty for a team-killer is multiplied by the number of teammates he killed, rapidly leading to very long respawn times for team killers. Improving the Quality of the Online Experience We've made a number of updates and bug fixes to our networking architecture, the most important one being specifically in how we transfer / predict player's movement / position as well as the action of reloading your weapon. While going into the details of these changes is beyond the scope of this document, the result should be a smoother online game experience across the variety of connections to the Internet. We made the following changes to our user interface: * Servers name now supports 65 characters for dedicated servers and 32 characters for client-hosted servers and now accepts an extended character set. * Chat text length has been extended to 64 characters * In-game scoreboard now displays every client's ping * In-game scoreboard now displays your # of assists * Server port numbers are displayed accurately throughout their range Additional Online Multiplayer New Features: * Teams are now persisted for the next game when map cycling occurs * Map Reset: It's now possible to restart the current game without requiring the server to map cycle. * Assault: We now have a timer to keep track of how much time is left to your offense / defense round * Assault: Alongside this timer, we also have an "Offense" and "Deffense" indicator to quickly inform you of your role Addressing the Most Frequent Issues Experienced by Gamers Many users have reported problems with Halo PC when using 3rd party software to force the refresh rate of their monitor. We have changed how we handle this situation in our code to seamlessly fall back to the forced refresh rate. A significant number of reported game crashes are related to an external library called keystone.dll. We have updated this library to address the most common failures. These crashes would usually occur when changing screen resolution, when starting or quitting Halo PC, when chatting in a multiplayer game or when using ALT-TAB to minimize Halo PC and return to Windows. Additional Bug Fixes * Halo can now be bound to a specific IP address using the -ip command line agrument. (facilitating multiple NIC support for Halo Dedicated Servers) * Halo can now read/write data files to a user specified folder using the -path command line argument. This is particularly useful for Halo Dedicated Servers but also be be used for users whose "My Documents" folder is remapped to a UNC path. It is an advanced option and using it will force you to manually move saved games and multiplayer gametypes. * Online Multiplayer: Telefrag message is now appropriately replicated. * Online Multiplayer: Minor fixes to switching teams in kill-in-order games (scorew will now remain accurate) * Online Multiplayer: Minor fixes to the end of the game state (new players now have to wait for the game to be restarted before being admitted to the server) * Online Multiplayer: Fix for clients flashlight states when joining games * Online Multiplayer: Vechicles won't respawn if they have a projectile (such as a plasma grenade) attached to them. They will wait for the projectile to be removed. * Online Multiplayer: Minor fixes to using teleports for high-latency connections * Sound: Fix for cinematic dialog being cut out on certain cards when enabling Audio Hardware Acceleration in the Audio Settings. Halo PC 1.02 With Halo PC 1.02, we are adding support for multiple instances to our dedicated server, enabling us and the community to roll out many more servers for gamers. We are also introducing client support for RCon (Remote Console), allowing dedicated server operators to have control over their servers running in data centers. For more information on the Halo PC Dedicated Server and the Remote Console, please consult the Halo PC Dedicated Server Readme file located here: Halo PC Dedicated Server 1.02 We have also released the Halo PC Technical and Performance FAQ, which answers most frequenty asked technical questions about Halo PC. This FAQ is located here: Halo PC Technical & Performance FAQ Here is a summary of the changes with Halo PC 1.02: * Halo PC Dedicated Server Support for multiple instances * Halo PC client support for RCon (remote console) to dedicated servers Bug Fixes: * Timedemo doesn't check memory usage consumption with every frame rendered (see Halo PC Techincal and Performance FAQ for more info) * After running timedemo, the last saved checkpoint is not altered anymore * Multiple minor bugs fixed in the Halo Auto-Updater application * Fixed an issue in keystone.dll that was causing certain configurations to potentially crash when chatting in multiplayer games * Fixed minor card specific rendering glitches Halo PC 1.01 After Halo was released to manufacturing but before it arrived on store shelves, the Halo team discovered a potential crashing issue when playing Halo multiplayer online. In order to guarantee the best possible experience for our customers we have issued an update that addresses this issue. Before you can play Halo multiplayer online you will need to allow this update to install through the auto-install feature of Halo or by running haloupdate.exe from your Halo installation folder. This is the only issue that was addressed with Halo PC 1.01 Halo PC 1.00 Initial release of the PC version of Halo [Edited on 11.18.2009 1:49 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 As for the Gearbox port, I've yet to see any proof of them putting heart and soul into it. [/quote] Were you reading the Gearbox forums when Halo PC released? They were playing the game, listening to their customers, and making important changes even after the game was released. I don't know what more you could possible ask for from them. Maybe if they had created this cool "custom edition" version as well you would be happy. Oh wait. Gearbox definitely put their hearts into the game. And you know why? Because they were playing the game and loved it too and wanted it to be the best it could be. So much in fact, that they even released a statement blaming M$ for the netcode to set the record straight. Everything is relative right? I wonder how you feel about how much effort Hired Gun or Bungie put into H2v? And finally, Halo PC and Custom Edition are huge successes even after all these years, so Gearbox did something right. People don't play crappy games, especially PC gamers. The proof is in the pudding.

The easy answer might have been informing him that the site is just an attempt to push spyware onto your PC. Nothing else. As for the Gearbox port, I've yet to see any proof of them putting heart and soul into it. Keep in mind that the game did not originally include dedicated servers or custom map support. Heck, even now it doesn't (technically). It was like the precursor to Modern Warfare 2 on PC. The dedicated server application was needed to keep the game alive for more than a couple of months, and the effort spent on it was clearly minimal. The dedicated server isn't much more than the code used to run the built in game server ripped out and modified into console form. Quick, inefficient and sorely lacking features. Heck, even displaying pings was clearly too much of a task. I'll give them props on Ice Fields and Danger Canyon though. ;) [Edited on 11.18.2009 8:19 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ItsNOTJohnston [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ItsNOTJohnston [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rob004 [url]http://mygamesfile.com/halo2game/[/url] Is this legal?[/quote] You sir are an idiot.Why not spend $30 on the game or even less now.Unless,you need your "daddy" to buy it for you.Jesus Christ,This is a Trivial Topic and answer.There is an easy task for how to get the game.Buying it!And people still pirate and waste 7+ Hours of their short lives trying to pirate.By that time I would've grabbed a beer,hang out with my friends and see a movie.I would use that time instead of pirating.I think almost everyone who plays multiplayer bought the damn game.Why not you?Out of every 16 people on 45+ servers.[/quote] Halo 2 Vista was a crime perpetrated by Microsoft. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to pay for it.[/quote]Ahh,Sorry I was drunk that time...[/quote]prehaps we all were. O_O

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ItsNOTJohnston [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rob004 [url]http://mygamesfile.com/halo2game/[/url] Is this legal?[/quote] You sir are an idiot.Why not spend $30 on the game or even less now.Unless,you need your "daddy" to buy it for you.Jesus Christ,This is a Trivial Topic and answer.There is an easy task for how to get the game.Buying it!And people still pirate and waste 7+ Hours of their short lives trying to pirate.By that time I would've grabbed a beer,hang out with my friends and see a movie.I would use that time instead of pirating.I think almost everyone who plays multiplayer bought the damn game.Why not you?Out of every 16 people on 45+ servers.[/quote] Halo 2 Vista was a crime perpetrated by Microsoft. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to pay for it.[/quote] Ahh,Sorry I was drunk that time...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Beowul7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 Just don't turn into these guys: [url]http://www.hassut.com/32829/boycott_fail.jpg[/url][/quote] XD[/quote]Oh, I would have if I had gotten a free trip to VALVe studios too.[/quote] You're thinking of the L4D2 boycott. Wrong boycott. Check the image, yo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 Just don't turn into these guys: [url]http://www.hassut.com/32829/boycott_fail.jpg[/url][/quote] XD[/quote]Oh, I would have if I had gotten a free trip to VALVe studios too.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Btcc22 Just don't turn into these guys: [url]http://www.hassut.com/32829/boycott_fail.jpg[/url][/quote] XD

You're right Frnksnbns, Gearbox did do much more than just a port. Not sure why I thought they didn't.

This topic and question was so stupid we are not even talking about it any more. So this is what i have to say to you Rob004, FACE PALM!!! [Edited on 11.17.2009 1:17 AM PST]

Yeah, I forgot Halo for XBox was exclusively LAN. My bad. I agree completely with you Frnksnbns. [Edited on 11.16.2009 3:31 PM PST]

Gearbox did a port yes, but Halo Xbox didn't have 16 player games (online), dedicated servers with RCON, map making, customization, I can go on... Look for example at what Hired Gun did in comparison and you'll realize that Gearbox did a fantastic job even with the limitations of the online netcode. Furthermore, you could argue that Bungie ported the game to the Xbox also, since it was originally a Mac title, and that Bungie all quit and cashed in when M$ bought the game. This Xbox Bungie company didn't create Halo. [Edited on 11.16.2009 3:27 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n357 I know Gearbox put heart and soul into Halo PC, but most of their effort was put into porting, not adding their own features or content. I think it was 99% a Bungie game. My opinion, though.[/quote]I understand what you mean, but what about their own added maps and the video and sound options exclusive to PC users? Not saying it was that great a deal either way.

I know Gearbox put heart and soul into Halo PC, but most of their effort was put into porting, not adding their own features or content. I think it was 99% a Bungie game. My opinion, though. I haven't played Borderlands yet, but my friends are raving about it. And since I like Gearbox, I will probably pick it up soon.

Halo PC doesn't count. It's a Gearbox title at heart. Gearbox is a good PC developer. Boarderlands isn't perfect, but it's better than anything Bungie has done in the past 8 years.

Haha. Yeah, not exactly sticking to their guns. I'm guilty of that, too. I swore off MS and Bungie games, but now I'm back to playing Halo PC. The temptation is too great!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frnksnbns I paid 49.99 plus tax, and vowed never to buy another M$ Games Studio title or one with GFWL ever again. And I haven't. [/quote] Just don't turn into these guys: [url]http://www.hassut.com/32829/boycott_fail.jpg[/url] [Edited on 11.16.2009 11:41 AM PST]

I paid 49.99 plus tax, and vowed never to buy another M$ Games Studio title or one with GFWL ever again. And I haven't.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ItsNOTJohnston [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rob004 [url]http://mygamesfile.com/halo2game/[/url] Is this legal?[/quote] You sir are an idiot.Why not spend $30 on the game or even less now.Unless,you need your "daddy" to buy it for you.Jesus Christ,This is a Trivial Topic and answer.There is an easy task for how to get the game.Buying it!And people still pirate and waste 7+ Hours of their short lives trying to pirate.By that time I would've grabbed a beer,hang out with my friends and see a movie.I would use that time instead of pirating.I think almost everyone who plays multiplayer bought the damn game.Why not you?Out of every 16 people on 45+ servers.[/quote] Halo 2 Vista was a crime perpetrated by Microsoft. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to pay for it.[/quote]I 100% agree with this statement. Halo 2 Vista is the Biggest Crime Microsoft ever committed. I wouldn't have paid for this game, if I knew the ultimate failure it would've been. [Edited on 11.16.2009 3:19 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ItsNOTJohnston [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rob004 [url]http://mygamesfile.com/halo2game/[/url] Is this legal?[/quote] You sir are an idiot.Why not spend $30 on the game or even less now.Unless,you need your "daddy" to buy it for you.Jesus Christ,This is a Trivial Topic and answer.There is an easy task for how to get the game.Buying it!And people still pirate and waste 7+ Hours of their short lives trying to pirate.By that time I would've grabbed a beer,hang out with my friends and see a movie.I would use that time instead of pirating.I think almost everyone who plays multiplayer bought the damn game.Why not you?Out of every 16 people on 45+ servers.[/quote] Halo 2 Vista was a crime perpetrated by Microsoft. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to pay for it.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Moifugley [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rob004 [url]http://mygamesfile.com/halo2game/[/url] Is this legal?[/quote]its not a download to Halo 2, its a download to Halo 1 Trial, dumbass. its old.[/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rob004 I doubt you even [b]klicked[/b] the link good sir.[/quote] Now you're 100% RETARDED!