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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • BUMP sbmm sucks, i don't want to play with people from usa or mexico, i'm from italy

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  • Most of the friends I play with regularly are not great at pvp. They will no longer play with me cause of how hard the competition is. I don't thing bungie has taken this into consideration. It's pretty bad when I play with 3-4 friends who are casual players we get matched against other players in the top 1%. Wtf bungie. This game is about making friends. You guys are doing everything you can do to help casual players and screwing that hardcore players.

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  • Bump because we all know it will more than likely be a placebo.

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  • Beware of the placebo effect. The fight must go on!

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  • The sbmm is bull shit if the had servers it be fine but no bungie still has there head up activisions ass and there telling them to do it even though there not to kill the game so there -blam!-ing falling cod game keeps going

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  • Bump

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  • I think they're going to trick us and try a placebo effect on us. Their just saying that but going to leave it how it is. And when we praise it, then they're going to reveal that they didn't do anything and SBMM is perfect. They lied to us once, what's going to stop them from doing it again.

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    • I think its the content creators they care mostly about and they were very vocal about this too.

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    • Apparently this has already been initiated, because for the last few weeks I had a blast playing against equally bad players as myself. But tonight, I saw nothing but mida or last word, and was constantly sniped from angles I didn't know existed. So incredibly NOT fun. I'd rather see the occasional lagged out red bar player, than constantly face a bunch of hardcore sweaties and their 1000 yd stares. I'm not good at pvp. I know it. I don't even attempt trials. Never been to Mercury. And I'm cool with that. But regular old crucible? I'm old, with a career and kids, so I'm not gonna "git gud". Just don't have the time nor skill. But I really enjoyed playing crucible when it wasn't against a bunch of wannabe twitch streamers. However, Bungie caters to its whiney, ungrateful pvp community. Just ask auto rifles, and thorn, and pulse rifles, and whatever's next on your endless bitch list.

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      • Signed. My k/d has gone to shit ever since sbmm

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      • Did I miss something? Was there an announcement while I was at work?

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        • Personally I don't care.

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        • We haven't truly won until SBMM is entirely gone from regular Crucible. But, this is a great step in the right direction. I'll see you guys in the Iron Banner.

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            NICE finally some hope good job guys

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          • As Rick James would say "it's a celebration bit*es"!!

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          • But lowkey do you guys know what this means? It means Bungie has the capacity to listen. We didn't stand for what we hated, we banded together. We asked and they listened. Its a revolution.

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            • Edited by whateverman7: 1/26/2016 6:45:30 AM
              Reading the comments in here is hilarious: 'bungie finally listened to us', 'us players finally won', 'now lets hope they listen to us more', etc. That shit is hilarious cause they've listened to us plenty of times. They've said so and their actions have shown so. We have been the reason for a lot of changes in destiny, including a lot of the 'balancing' for weapons/sub-classes. For yall to act like that isnt the case is just funny. As for the news about the change: If it helps the lag, i'm all for it. That's the main issue I have with crucible, not the competition I go against. Also, with the change, there shouldn't be 1 post about not having fun/being able to play casually cause of going against 'try hards' in every match, right? No one should complain about 1 sided matches cause the connection is better, right? I'm just saying, after some of yall are on the wrong side of that mercy match, don't come crying about the crucible being not fair, not being able to find 'good' people to play with, not fun cause you tired of getting stomped, etc. To go along with that, for the ones that complained about SBMM and all the matches being too 'sweaty', don't come back and try to show off some vid/stats of you stomping players not as good as you. If you do, we will then know the truth about what this whole uproar was all about.

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            • its not a victory until the old matchmaking is still in effect in all modes a month or two from now

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            • I hope it goes over good and people do like the change. I am sick of waiting 20 minutes for them to find players for my skill level. Not saying I am skilled btw. Think my # was a 23

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            • We didn't win. They are trying to save the Iron Banner not much more than that.

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            • All you did was copied everything TripleWrek said in his Youtube video, including the BO3 part........(wheres the link proof about BO3 BTW?)

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              • Finally a victory for the players

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              • Let's not jump to conclusions

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              • So let me get this rt! You guys are scared to play with guys in your own skill base? You rather play against lesser opponents? Hmmmmmm ok that's the definition of GG scrubs... Lol

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                  You guys actually think they're going to do something? Do none of you learn?

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                  • Congrats, I'll be leaving the crucible games to you tryhards. You won't get me to beat up on and you successfully succeeded in alienating a whole different player base. Good job.

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