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1/18/2016 8:51:40 PM
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4: The simple answer: no. If you remember in the Book of Sorrows, the only reason the Throne Worlds allow Hive gods to revive there is because the Deathsingers hid the god's death there. The Throne World itself does not establish the god's life force: however, the magic and knowledge of the Deathsingers, who can literally hide the death of gods within things (see: Oversould, Deathsinger's Song, Throne Worlds). Ergo, unless we used Hive magic to hide our deaths within the Throne World we have conquered, our souls are not bound to the World, and therefore, we will not return there on death.
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  • I believe the only purpose the oversouls hold is to preserve the hives' lives [u]while inside the throne world.[/u] primarily to prevent death singers from killing themselves permenately, since the deathsong kills everything, deathsingers included.

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  • Edited by Astral Centipede: 1/19/2016 12:23:04 AM
    False. The Hive could respawn into throne worlds long before the deathsingers learned of hiding their deaths, and long before the deathsingers even existed. [quote]Your body is gone, but you have endured. Safe in the cyst universe created by your own might — your throne world. From this day forward, Auryx, you and your sisters will each survive death — so long as you aren’t killed in your own throne. (Verse 2:7 — The Weakness Verse)[/quote] [quote]SAVATHÛN said, Auryx my brother and king, I have studied the wounds cut by the Worm our God. Also I have studied the manner of your death and return. These two things are the same, for they are predicated on death and the passage through cut spaces. (Verse 3:1 — an incision)[/quote] This was from over 20,000 years before Ir Anuk and Ir Halak were even born. [quote]For twenty thousand years they fought across the moons and they fought in the abyssal plains and lightning palaces of each other's sword spaces. And they killed each other again and again, so that they could practice death. (Verse 3:2 — The High War)[/quote] Then Ir Halak and Ir Anuk are born, and they invent a way that lets non-god Hive (AKA ascendant Hive) survive death. [quote]Already you are grown, my daughter, already you are a wizard. Have I been away so long? Now you are Ir Anûk, and Savathûn cackles and rages at your brilliance. You have written eleven axioms describing the ascendant places, our throne world. You have announced that you will kill one of these axioms, as Akka would kill the truth, and in mantling Akka you will become a God, as I am. If you try it I may kill you, or I may applaud. Well done. I brought you this bitter acid for your celebrations. And you, Ir Halak, you are a wizard too, as is the way of twins. I have been with Xivu Arath, who complains that you have made a song, and sung it in her throne world, and killed everyone who listened, quite irrevocably. Will we have songs instead of swords and boomers? (Verse 4:7 — shapes : points)[/quote] [quote]“We propose a method by which Ascendant souls can be detached and integrated into a tautological and autonomous thanatosphere, which we tentatively term an oversoul. Oversouls can be stored in a throne world as a mechanism of enhanced death resilience. As a side effect, new refinements to our Deathsong may be achieved, moving us closer to a generally effective paracausal death impulse.” Oryx brandished his sword. “Speak the Royal Tongue, or I’ll pin you up for Eir to eat.” “If we can separate our deaths from ourselves, and hide them, we will be hard to kill.” (Verse 4:8 — The partition of death)[/quote] Hiding one's death in an oversoul is a relatively new method, and it is not the usual way Hive gods come back to life upon death. It is an extra method. I have [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/186644035/0/0]a thread on the Hive throne worlds[/url] if you're interested in learning more on how they function.

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  • Oh. Neat

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