Bungie has it's little ways of making references. For instance, in the Halo canon, the Covenant (the jews or something made a Covenant to God, a one sided promise) was hellbent on activating the halos. And, the Flood (noahs ark) would ravage the galaxy, but the Halos would kill all the evil, and the only escape was the Ark, (noahs ark) There are a whole bunch of references in Halo, good job finding that one :)

The Rookies Initials are JD. I think the D could be a reference to Dante. J. Dante

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Snappyguy pan galactic gargle blaster[/quote] I could really go for one of those right now...

A great read.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nekkuu Just throwing this out there, but could the 9 rings of hell connect to the Halo rings?[/quote] Not likely, as there are only 7 installations. Bungie seems to have a thing for the number 7.

My butt itches can u help?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nichos354 They should make all classical epics like halo... Imagine Hamlet getting revenge on Claudius by running over him with a mongoose.[/quote] Alas, poor yorick? lol (Hamlet like achievment) [Edited on 11.20.2009 9:42 PM PST]

Circle=HALO!? The Covenant=Demons Master Cheif=uh...Demon? The Ark=NOAH!? The Flood=NOAH!? Lol weird things Suicidal Grunts sacrificing themselves for their god? Where does Cortana fit in this whole Halo/Religion thing? Or The Gravemind What about that stuff the Prophet of Regret (or Truth) said on the level "Regret" on Halo 2? What about the level "Cortana" is it like hell? (To me it is,ON LEGENDARY!!) Hmm...Bungie you smart smart people [Edited on 11.20.2009 9:51 PM PST]

This is a good analysis of similarities. However, this game's story still sucks no matter what the source text to which they refer. I agree that the story is like hell once the horrifically cheesy romance goes underway. I tried hard to kill that chick. Talk about your nerd cliches. Horrible.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PhatMatt89 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] V101 Did you also notice the frozen section when you are going through the computer network tunnels to get Virgil? As you go through those levels/tunnels you go through an area that is literally frozen. It looks like some coolant tank burst and basically froze the immediate area. But it also makes sense in regards to your idea... Nice thinking :)[/quote] You find out what happened in there in Sadie's Story. What happened was *SPOILER* *SPOILER* *SPOILER* *SPOILER*, not coolant tanks bursting.[/quote] Yeah I figured it out now :) . . . It fits in with the theme of this idea nicely.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Danves First off, I'd like to say thank you to Bungie for making an incredible game yet again! And I'd also like to say that Dante's Divine Comedy is one of my favorite pieces of classic literature. More of this in time. [b]As a note, I am neither for or against any religion mentioned in this post, it is purely from the standpoint of literature. I am discussing a novel, not religion.[/b] ----SPOILER WARNING----- If you haven't beaten the game yet, what are you doing cruising the forums? Go play! So there was this little novel written a while ago, by this one guy named Dante. It was a political satire, meant to make examples of current members of society and the Church at the time, but it's main influence is that of the views of Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven. And what does all this have to do with ODST, I can hear you all asking. Well, more than you think. I haven't analyzed the entire game for references, this is mostly just dealing with the Rookie's story. ---- The Rookie has crash landed into a building, has been knocked unconscious, and has awoken later to find himself alone in the city. The city is now quite literally Hell on Earth. But the Rookie is not truly alone. He has a guide through this hell, the SuperIntendent. Through the audio logs in the campaign, we come to find that the name of the SI is actually VERGIL. And you may have noticed that audio logs are all labeled "# Circle," all the way up to 9. Interesting. [quote]In the Divine Comedy, specifically the Inferno, Dante is guided through Hell by the Roman poet, Virgil. Hell consists of nine circles, each more horrible and punishing than the last. The circles of Hell spiral down into the Earth, to it's very core.[/quote] After you find out the fate of your squad, the Rookie heads underground to locate DARE. You find yourself on the 8th level of VERGIL's data center. You need to locate Dare, who is on the 9th level. Fancy that. After much fighting, you find yourself on the 9th level, which happens to be almost completely frozen... [quote]The 9th circle of Hell, in the Inferno, is actually cold. Ice cold. The punishment here is for that of Treason. The higher the crime, the more encased in ice you shall be. The very center of the 9th circle is where Satan himself resides, encased in ice up to his waist, beating his wings, whose gusts of air cause the 9th circle to be encased in ice. Satan himself has three faces, and each is chewing on the three (at the time) greatest betrayers. Their punishment for betraying their lords and benefactors is to be eternally gnawed on by Satan himself.[/quote] The Rookie and DARE finally reach VERGIL's core, and there they find the source of this whole fiasco. The rogue Engineer. He has chosen to betray his benefactors, his lords, the entire whole of the Covenant itself. And they are literally coming to chew him to pieces. ---- There you have it folks. My analysis, and hypothesis, and all other sorts of -sis. I've only played through campaign once, but there may be even further references to the Divine Comedy. There are 9 levels of purgatory before one reaches Paradise(Heaven). If someone could confirm how many sections of freeway there are in the final level, we may have our answer. The escape at the end of the game could very well be the escape from Purgatory. If anyone else has more references to levels of Hell, or to any of the other campaign character's stories, please let me know, I'd be interested to see how far they have taken this. For further reference, hit up Wikipedia, it's pretty extensive. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_comedy[/url] Thanks so much to whoever stuck around and dealt with my massive post. Happy Haloing to you all. tl;dr: Go read a book =P -----ADDITIONAL FINDINGS----- [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Overlord Jebus Maybe each of the 9 circles of audio logs each represent their circle? I can already think of gluttony and lust off the top of my head.[/quote] Thanks for bringing this up, we need to just double check to make sure that each "Circle" of audio logs corresponds to the sin of that particular circle of Hell, which I already know it does. --- [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brent G [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Danves [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brent G OP, you mentioned that Satan has 3 heads that chew on the 3 greatest betrayers? And that the brutes were coming to "chew" on Vergil? How appropriate that there were 3 of them knocking on his door.[/quote] Kickass! How sure are you? I've only played the campaign through once.[/quote] I'm pretty much 100% sure. There's two at the doorway trying taunting Vergil, and a Chieftain behind them.[/quote] Yet another connection, possibly. If anyone can confirm this for sure, that would be amazing. The pieces seem to be falling into place =)[/quote] in st.john boscos vision of hell there are a 1000 walls to the center of hell, each spaced 1000 miles from each other, read his vision of hell. it is quite intresting

I figured some of this out a while ago but I never really cared to post anything on it. I don't have the last 4 Audio files, clever little files, hiding from me like that... but i'll find them... evenetually.....MWUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! uhhh.... I mean I just can't find them... yeah that's it...

That is really cool! Brownie points for figuring that out.

Just throwing this out there, but could the 9 rings of hell connect to the Halo rings?

They should make all classical epics like halo... Imagine Hamlet getting revenge on Claudius by running over him with a mongoose.

Very nice!!!! thats so cool.

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before; When you get all 29 audio logs in New Mombasa you then have to do Data Hive to get the last one. When you do Data Hive - with 29 audio logs, the Police person will survive, and drop down to the nineth level. He then goes to the really icey bit, and he then checks if the Doc is dead (where you can get the 30th log). Afterwards he turns on the Rookie and you have to kill him. Now what's that? Oh yes. Treason!

Wow, sorry, my computer is retarded, it posted this in here, when it was supposed to be in another thread. [Edited on 11.02.2009 6:33 PM PST]

Well, I am damn impressed, I would've never thought of this. Though the Cirlces and Arc sections of each audio log still baffle me.

so i spet 60$ on a book? craaaaaaaaaap

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Reaping Clarity Holy crap Danves, stop bumping (you have over 50 posts in this thread alone and yes I realise the irony in bumping the thread myself). What you've said, and what the topic is about is a very, VERY loose theory. Heck you could relate the same type of theory to other games and yield the same result. I'm sure you're happy that you made a popular thread and all, but you hardly have enough facts to relate the ODST story to the Divine Comedy.[/quote] U mad? I never bumped my topic. I always posted in relation to the theory, or to clarify things. Is that bad? =P I DO have proof that Sadie's Story was [i]very[/i] heavily based off of Dante's Inferno, since Fourth Wall confirmed this themselves about 2/3 of the way through this article: [url=http://games.venturebeat.com/2009/10/09/how-the-startup-fourth-wall-studios-created-a-game-inside-a-game-for-bungie/]Link. [/url] And since it would be absolutely idiotic to include a full-fledged sidestory in the game that is heavily based off of a historical text and to NOT reference the text at least a [i]little[/i] bit in the game itself, you can pretty much assume that Bungie intended for SOME of the game to reference the Inferno. Although, who said that any of this was a fact? Until we can have Bungie confirm it, everything I wrote is still just a theory. And some of the posters in here REALLY went on tangents, and were suggesting things I'm extremely wary to connect with the Divine Comedy. I'm still sticking to my guns, though. It's pretty damned easy to see the connections, if you've actually read it. Oh, and... *bump* Just for you =D

Wow nice job.I did notice the nine circles in the logs and thought of Dante's Inferno but that's as far as I got. Really interesting stuff.

Holy crap Danves, stop bumping (you have over 50 posts in this thread alone and yes I realise the irony in bumping the thread myself). What you've said, and what the topic is about is a very, VERY loose theory. Heck you could relate the same type of theory to other games and yield the same result. I'm sure you're happy that you made a popular thread and all, but you hardly have enough facts to relate the ODST story to the Divine Comedy.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] its4glory Just wondering, but does Bungie ever "confirm" that people "have something" whenever they try and make references from the game to something else? [/quote] I'm not too sure. But I do know that Fourth Wall, the guys who did the audio logs, confirmed that the audio logs were very heavily based off of Dante's Inferno. It would only make sense that at least SOME of ODST (aside from the logs) would be referencing it. Although, Bungie has a tendency to be secretive, so I think they'll just want to keep us guessing, even if we were (somewhat) correct =P

Just wondering, but does Bungie ever "confirm" that people "have something" whenever they try and make references from the game to something else?

The fact alone that the roman poet is named virgil is convincing me that Bungie is full of cleverly (almost)plaguerizing storywriters