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Seasoned Veterans Guide to Vidmaster Challenge: Endure (Firefight)

Hello, and welcome to Seasoned Veterans' Guide to the Vidmaster Challenge: Endure Achievement for Halo 3: ODST. This thread is presented to you by Seasoned Veterans, and was written by I adJACENt I, and Pope Rex, with additional help from UEG PaniK and LB Terminator. I'd like to begin with a little bit of a background on how we got this achievement, and then end with a guide for you to go out there and get it. [b]NOTE:[/b] If you would like to do this on Alpha Site, please visit mastercmj2003's guide for [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=37241034]that map[/url]. Last night, around 930 PM EST, myself (i adJACENt i) and 3 others (Pope Rex, UEG PaniK, and LB Terminator) started up a round of Firefight on Lost Platoon, on Heroic. 2 hours and 12 minutes later, we had finished the 2nd Wave of the 1st Round of the 5th Set, with [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?player=I%20adJACENt%20I&gameid=5744386]1,434,587 points[/url], and an achievement. Pope Rex has also broken [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?player=Pope%20Rex&gameid=7240450]1.5 million[/url] just this morning. [b][i]We could not have done this without teamwork, and a well-defined role for each of us[/i][/b]. I will explain those roles, and much of our strategy, in the following paragraphs. [quote][/quote] The following text can be found on the Halo Wiki pages dedicated to [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Firefight]Firefight[/url] and the Vidmaster Endure Achievement. [u][b][url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Vidmaster_Challenge:_Endure]Vidmaster Achievement: Endure[/url][/b][/u] is an achievement in Halo 3: ODST and one of the Vidmaster Challenges. It is unlocked when you play on Firefight, on any mission, and pass the 4th set (the 12th round and 60th wave) on 4 player Heroic co-op Live. It is worth 25 Gamerpoints. In Firefight, you fight against increasingly difficult waves of Covenant attackers. There are five Waves of reinforcements in a Round and three Rounds in a Set. The Set, Round, and Wave the player is in can be seen at the top left of the screen, with the number of players lives being 7 to share between your squad when Firefight is started. The Set is represented by a number from one to infinity, the Round a circle, going from left to right with the Wave the player is in shown under the Round. At the end of a round there will be a brief pause where the player will be allowed to recollect ammo, and get additional lives. The scores will be kept in the top right of the screen, with the Team score being on the top and the player's individual score below that. Regardless of the difficulty, the Tough Luck skull will be enabled from the start. With each new set, more skulls become enabled, more than one at a time. If one can stay alive, they will be awarded with higher scores and medals. Though each enemy class is worth a base number of points, earning medals can modify the player's tally as they go. Staying on lengthy streak without dying, and points will be augmented by a hefty multiplier. Additionally, once a team has survived a Set, they will go on to the Bonus Round. Because it is only a Bonus Round, any deaths will not be subtracted from the overall point pool. However, since the Iron Skull is activated at the start, one death will cause the Bonus Round to end. The Bonus Round provides players a chance to earn extra lives before the next Set. Exact number of lives per score is unknown to us at this time. I will update this post when we learn more. [quote][/quote] Now, we begin our specific guide to getting this achievement... For this specific achievement, our squad played on Lost Platoon (from the Uplift Reserve mission in Campaign mode). We turned on IWHBYD (for extra dialog) and Grunt Birthday Party (for the lulz, and it helps to verify that you actually killed a Grunt). Looking at the map, the South East side, where the big rocks with all the trees are, will be called the front. The East corner of the map is called the Front Left, the East corner of the map is the Front Right, the North corner of the map is the Back Left, and the West corner of the map is the Back Right. The Phantoms that drop off reinforcements will go to only those four spots. As each Firefight progresses, various difficulty-multiplying skulls come into play. Tough Luck, Catch, and Black Eye activate at the start of Rounds; Tilt, Famine, and Mythic activate at the start of Sets. The longer a Firefight lasts, the more skulls remain active simultaneously, so by the start of Round One of Set Five, all Round and Set skulls are active. The Iron Skull is only active during Bonus Rounds. Here is the skull breakdown for each Round and Set, Round skulls are italicized, Set skulls are bold.: Set 1 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i] Set 1 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i] Set 1 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black Eye[/i] Set 2 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 2 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 2 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black Eye[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 3 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 3 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 3 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 4 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 4 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 4 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 5 and up - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] The #1 Rule of Firefight: Don't die. The #2 Rule of Firefight: DON'T DIE! I cannot stress that enough. This is not Halo 3 Campaign where you can just run around and AR/Melee everything in site. Every death hurts your team in multiple ways. Besides having one fewer life for the game, you may also lose valuable resources by dying in an area surrounded by the enemy. Losing a Warthog, Laser, or other weapons may prove to be detrimental to your team in later Waves. Speaking of the Hog and Laser, at the start of the game, and every following Set (3 Rounds), you will get a Warthog that spawns at the bottom of the double sets of stairs, in the middle of the map (Bottom Mid, Warthog Spawn), in a large room to the North West. Against the South East wall in this room are two Health Packs. There are also two Health Packs at the top of the double stairs, to either side of them. In a side room on the East side, there will be a Laser that spawns at the beginning of the game and after each Round (5 Waves). You MUST be able to keep your Hog alive, and you MUST be able to reserve your Laser shots. You are given 5 Laser shots each round, and sometimes there are 5 Wraiths (one per Wave) in a Round. Your Hog driver and Gunner will need to take down Choppers from behind, as facing these things head on is pretty much suicide. Do everything in your power to only kill the Brute in the Chopper, and not to actually blow up the Chopper. If able, take each and every Chopper you can into the back or the Hog Room, behind the stairs. Store them for use in later rounds (at one time I think we had about 13 Choppers stored in that room). Communication is also key. Your Laser guy needs to know where the Wraiths are being dropped. Your Hog needs to know where the Choppers and Brute Chieftains are. You need to know when the Buggers are coming, so you can ensure you have an appropriate weapon (Plasma Rifle or SMG work best). The more info being passed around, the better prepared your squad can be. [quote][/quote] For your party of 4, you need to have the following types of personnel... Hog Driver / Warthog Driver; Hog Gunner / Warthog Driver; Laser / Support; Long Range / Support [b][u]Hog Personnel[/b][/u]: Driver - Pope Rex Gunner - UEG PaniK The Hog driver and gunners will run the hog as much as possible, taking care to not get it destroyed. During Rounds where the Black Eye skull is turned on (where you have to melee to regain Stamina), you do not want to be in the Hog. One or both of you may want to utilize your Choppers, if you feel comfortable enough, but if not, stay up top on the building. Since this is such a large map, you will want the enemy to come to you so that you can get some melees in when your Stamina gets low. When the Catch skull is activated (Covenant throw a ton of grenades), you may want to be wary of getting close to Grunts, as they have a tendency to unload 30 Plasma Stickies at the same time. [Edited on 09.23.2009 2:38 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 If you want to post this that would be fine. [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=11583932&player=mityman50]Link to the game. 1.4 mill[/url][/quote] Gonna go through your post tomorrow, and see what I can add to the OP.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NO KEDESHI actually, you dont even need to follow this guide. just play on wind ward, its insanely easy. me and my friends were just playing along for the first 2 sets and then we decided to get vidmaster, and hey look we got it. live and learn, you dont need a complete guide to figure out how to get it. just a few tips. its not fun if you read a guide on how to do something, then its not an "achievement". unless youre like super obsessed with recon...[/quote]We'll be changing the focus of this thread to "High-scoring methods." We'll score high on each level and write up our strat for how to rack up the points.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo Me and pope dominated in hog before the game crapped out on us. And for the record, Alpha site is 10 times easier than Lost Platoon. [/quote]I'm a noob though, I've only really ever played Alpha Site. I need to get out more.

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  • actually, you dont even need to follow this guide. just play on wind ward, its insanely easy. me and my friends were just playing along for the first 2 sets and then we decided to get vidmaster, and hey look we got it. live and learn, you dont need a complete guide to figure out how to get it. just a few tips. its not fun if you read a guide on how to do something, then its not an "achievement". unless youre like super obsessed with recon...

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  • [quote]Ideally, at any given point, you would have three guys circulating around the complex with choppers. The fourth will be running around inside. The trick with choppers is three-fold: a) get in the choppers as soon as possible b) don not destroy any choppers; whenever you have an extra, store it in the room with the laser- you'll need them c) focus mostly on brutes in the earlier levels, eventually just kill everything, though The last guy floats around in the complex. That was me, and I always ran around with a laser (to be used only for wraiths, and fuel rod gun chieftains later on) and an auto-mag. But whenever buggers would come, I would drop the laser temporarily for a SMG, the best weapon to take care of them IMHO. Use the auto-mag to kill jackals (perfect the two shot on shielded jackals) and grunts. Ignore brutes and hunters- that's why you have choppers. Also, as a side note, there is only one wraith that you need to focus on with the laser, and that's the one that spawns on the "hill" (you'll know what I mean if you know the map). This is because the choppers can easily destroy the others simply by staying a ways away, and then moving forward and backward to dodge each shot. However, like everything else, later (specifically with the Tilt skull), the wraiths won't die from choppers and you'll need to use the laser on all of them. They're almost always a one hit kill until later, then it is imperative to aim for the cockpit to get the one shot kill. If choppers aren't available (and trust me, towards the end they will be rare), anyone without one should stay inside. But if you're feeling confident, you can use the warthog. The key is to stay moving. I would only suggest this if you have plenty of lives, though. Make sure you communicate- say how many lasers you've got left, ask if there's extra choppers, say if there's an abandoned one outside somewhere, ask if you need to laser something. Just say EVERYTHING[/quote] I just typed this up. This is my guide to getting Endure on Lost Platoon. It worked first try, quite well. I was the laser guy, and I agree completely with your segment about the laser guy. If you want to post this that would be fine. [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=11583932&player=mityman50]Link to the game. 1.4 mill[/url] [Edited on 09.23.2009 10:21 PM PDT]

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  • Me and pope dominated in hog before the game crapped out on us. And for the record, Alpha site is 10 times easier than Lost Platoon.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The MLG Pope This tactic just netted us a [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=11631067]solid 3 Million.[/url] We're working on improving our tactics and weapon management. But we'll also we heading in Legendary next time so we should get a great points boost for that.[/quote]Daaang...and here I am comfortable with my 1.1 mil on Alpha site...better break out the ODST disc again...lol

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  • This tactic just netted us a [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=11631067]solid 3 Million.[/url] We're working on improving our tactics and weapon management. But we'll also we heading in Legendary next time so we should get a great points boost for that.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] madnes93 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xx Mr Bill xX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bongbong03 I didn't see any mention of the snipe...do you not recommend its use? Or is it for the long range guy?[/quote] I'm sure its for the long range guy. I'm kind of guessing TBH.[/quote] Yeah, we had the Long Range guy grab the Sniper and start picking off Jackal snipers or weak Brutes. It's actually pretty useful for headshotting helmet-less Chieftans.[/quote] Change your Coup settings! TGP is no more.

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  • saved.........+1

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  • I scored over 2,000,000 on the wide open map with the vehicles. I can't recall the name right now for some reason, but I personally think it's the best one for Heroic, mostly because there aren't any Engineers.

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  • Or you could just play ONI Alpha Site and have somebody camp in the elevator so that the brutes try to attack him through the window (lol), easy assassinate, easy eventual achievement.

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  • hey do you want to do the achevment together?? but only if you willing to use teamwork, strategy and NOT PISS AROUND cuz i wanna get it. just personal message me if you want to or add my GT: McLoV1N 18

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  • Our teams general idea was to have a hog, sniper, and lazer. the only thing we need to work on is communication. Aside from that, Invisable brutes seem to be a problem. Turning on your VISR completly blinds you, so dont give that as a solution. I've witnessed our sniper get incinirated from behind because of these suckers. Have any tips?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xx Mr Bill xX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bongbong03 I didn't see any mention of the snipe...do you not recommend its use? Or is it for the long range guy?[/quote] I'm sure its for the long range guy. I'm kind of guessing TBH.[/quote] Yeah, we had the Long Range guy grab the Sniper and start picking off Jackal snipers or weak Brutes. It's actually pretty useful for headshotting helmet-less Chieftans.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bongbong03 I didn't see any mention of the snipe...do you not recommend its use? Or is it for the long range guy?[/quote] I'm sure its for the long range guy. I'm kind of guessing TBH.

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  • good strats

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  • I didn't see any mention of the snipe...do you not recommend its use? Or is it for the long range guy?

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  • I just had a good (well good for me) solo run on Lost Platoon. I managed to survive untill the third round of set one and had alot of fun tearing the covenant up in my shiny chopper >:D Between choppers I used my new favourite turret to keep the advancing hordes at bay. The warthog got knocked to the side by a wraith blast ([url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=94432987]screenie[/url]) which conveniently put it out of the wraiths view making it safe from those purple monsters. The turret easily made mincemeat out of grunts, jackels and drones but then a group of brutes came and ended my fun with their pesky pointy grenades of doom. While the wraiths are dangerous they actually helped me survive by making me keep moving at all times (unless I had my laser on me >:D). My worst wave was a spec ops (invisible) brute drop, I used three lives on a single wave because of them.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BigCountry1369 We had ours on Heroic, I'm interested in the change in points by moving up to Legendary and rolling the same way. With enough time and good internet connections, I can imagine the point totals breaking 5 or maybe even 10 mil. [/quote] We'll let you know after we get there tonight. ;) We're going to try and be one of the first ones to finding out what each [url=http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll319/XGC_Jacen_Solo/FFskulls.jpg]scoring skull emblem[/url] is.

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  • I don't want to ruin it all for u, but in my oppinion there are a few better solutions to get Endure. But for the guide, its pretty well done.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Boost Deuce This is a good guide. [/quote] QFMFT Props on the guide, well written and even a Fight Club reference thrown in ;) We got this almost the exact same way last night except we only had 1 guy up top (Laser guy), the 2 guys on the hog team, and I was the chopper guy. "BC's Chop Shop" was underneath the stairs like yours...7 was the most I got stashed away at once. We got past halfway through the 5th set, had 25 lives and 1.8 million and had been playing for 2 hours and 20 minutes and all of us had to work today so we just started dying purposefully to end the game. We had ours on Heroic, I'm interested in the change in points by moving up to Legendary and rolling the same way. With enough time and good internet connections, I can imagine the point totals breaking 5 or maybe even 10 mil. Again, great guide for those that don't have the achievement yet +1 [Thread saved] -BC [Edited on 09.23.2009 2:06 PM PDT]

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  • NO ALTS ALLOWED. Lulz.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xx Mr Bill xX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] III Kirby III [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RighteousTyrant Well-done, guys.[/quote] Gettin our street cred up. [/quote] Straigh reppin' SV. Why isn't that alt actually in SV anyways? *Thread Saved*, hopefully I'll be able to play this Friday after work finally >.<[/quote] Just got into the queue, up to the Admin to let it in now.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] III Kirby III [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RighteousTyrant Well-done, guys.[/quote] Gettin our street cred up. [/quote] Straigh reppin' SV. Why isn't that alt actually in SV anyways? *Thread Saved*, hopefully I'll be able to play this Friday after work finally >.<

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  • This is a good guide. If i decide to try hard to pursue the Vidmaster achievements, this guide will be something that i will use.

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