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8/15/2009 6:23:47 AM
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Halo 4, In plain sight. (I was at least part right)

This is an old ass thread from a couple years ago, before ODST even came out. Some has been proven wrong, by Halo 4 has been announced. Now we just have to wait and see how accurate my theory holds to be. _________________________________________ The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!) I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty. [quote] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl[/quote] Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal. In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself. [quote] You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another? You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer. Atonement. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example. [/quote] Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33381763]this[/url] answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the [i] very [/i] important part. [quote]The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.[/quote] The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet? Next important part. [quote]But I would have my masters know that I have changed.[/quote] Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They [i] did [/i] make it in, and out.... [quote]I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.[/quote] So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways. The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth [i] knew [/i] more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?. "the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark. [quote]////////////error////////////[restart search] search:[[error]].no search started. .error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A 05-032 :allow access. 0452-9 :no way. 05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know. 0452-9 : what are you talking about. 05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\[/quote] Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters. [quote]Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped [u]space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine,[/u] itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.[/quote] The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence. [quote]The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [u]Their [/u]footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe. There are no immovable objects. Everything gives if you push hard enough. [/quote] Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [i]There[/i] footsteps! Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered. But then the question is, where did the Forerunner [i] go? [/i]. Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves: [quote]The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.[/quote] Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways. The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it. (Continues) [Edited on 07.30.2011 2:39 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LordQuagga It'll be weird to see these long winded conspiracy threads slowly die out... Well, for Halo at least. Good read, would do it again.[/quote] Meh, it's already happened. Use to have a glory of intelligent activity and discussion on this forum. Now the only reason I check in at all is for old times sake. Hopefully Bungies new game will spark just as lively a universe within this site. The transition period and the inevitable feeling of community decay is painful though, lol.

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  • here is my old theory: Acoording to the books Dr.Halsey, Kelly, Linda and Fred are on that shield planet in Ghosts of Onyx. In the halo 4 trailer masterchief and cortana are heading toward what is apparently that planet. I think the chief will meet up with them. this will tie nicely with the ending of halo wars where the spirit of fire is in space. Now after the spirit of fire reaches the shield planet, chief and the others will have to use the spirit of fire to escape somehow. now somewhere in the story they will meet up with the gray team from the cole protocol. thats pretty much all i have for now. Well i guess ill have to cut out the gray team part cuz the last time they were seen they went on a mission for oni and never came back which probably means they're dead and the spirit of fire part i dont know maybe it will reach onyx maybe not. according to halo glasslands and halo evolutions Miranda and fire team black are probably the only spartans left that are not on onyx or in a cryo-pod(MC)

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  • well actually the last precursor died already and all the precursors are just graveminds that look like scorpions. Masterchief lands on onyx as in my previously stated theory and has to find someway to reopen the gate to the dyson(slipspace) sphere so he can get to DR. halsey and the other spartans. then he has to find a way out of the sphere and a way back to earth since they have no ship

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  • This is my therie is that chief lands on a forerunner world and finds something idk what. And the new enemy will be the last precursor the timeless one. In the end of the concept art trailer the 2 second cilp the thing that you saw looked a bit like a precursor. Also the new enemy is said to have 6 limbs which precursors have.

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  • It'll be weird to see these long winded conspiracy threads slowly die out... Well, for Halo at least. Good read, would do it again.

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  • How did I miss this thread?

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  • really the forerunners are like the makers, but alot of ppl say the flood were a human infestation. But from the sound of this halo 4 is all about protecting the legendary planet from the covenant. And in the trailer, whats up with the blown up ship?

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  • You know what's rather ironic? That none of the info in the OP validated, examined or was in any way a direct connection to Halo 4's inevitable release date. Sometimes magic happens, this is one of those cases.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fartman23 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus Did the cross into a different plain of existance? If so where did they go? the chief was after all cut off from the rest of the ship and having him drop out of slip space into who knows where.[/quote] Was referring to either Precursors or Forerunner there my lil' fellar.

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  • i has to agree, you be a smart one [url=http://www.mtgfanatic.com/?ForumReferrerID=134184]Click Here!!![/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Da Kman117 Wow, very well put together, and over all a very awesome theory. you is a smart little feller[/quote]

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  • who is mb hey check out my face book page look up halo to 10 years and beyond to greatness 117

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  • Wow, very well put together, and over all a very awesome theory. you is a smart little feller

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus Did the cross into a different plain of existance? If so where did they go? the chief was after all cut off from the rest of the ship and having him drop out of slip space into who knows where.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] J0man1 Perhaps not entirely the right place to be discussing a game being made by another studio. Unless it is and we can hypothesise Battlefield 4. *Creates new topic[/quote] Actually it is as maybe this topic is talking about the universe of halo which is sort of bungie universe, so it is allowed.

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  • Perhaps not entirely the right place to be discussing a game being made by another studio. Unless it is and we can hypothesise Battlefield 4. *Creates new topic

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  • You know what the halo's may be all part of the plan of the timeless one's. If he knew of its existance, mabe he allowed it to happen. Or that the firing was only a delay on his plans. Mainly slowing his plans and he already had a backup plan. although on final thought i think that halo 4 is just the start of the end of the forerunner flood war. where both the forerunners and the timeless one have placed a bet on their people. mainly this may mean the timeless one may have died and have left his mission to another specie, like the forerunner left their mission for the humans to complete.

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  • Precursors are actually "Trans-sentient", mean that they are basically gods. Forerunner and "the Flood" supposely decended from them but the flood is rather an experiment before the Forerunners who were successful unlike them...

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  • Not sure if this was previously stated or not, but the Precursors are in no way of Human descent.

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  • Could somebody just make a new thread with an updated version of this? K bye

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XLrLNoOdLE [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Newpokerman You really went to great lengths for this.[/quote] Thanks. Still holding up too. [/quote] Well, not only was i impressed by your article, i'm now more impressed because you are still here, well, sort of, that comment was from September... [/quote] Seeing how Augustus got a good wealth of this from conversations and leads we had over the years; he will always be around. We are much alike.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Newpokerman You really went to great lengths for this.[/quote] Thanks. Still holding up too. [/quote] Well, not only was i impressed by your article, i'm now more impressed because you are still here, well, sort of, that comment was from September...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Righteous Fury19 Well it has recently been confirmed or rather heavily hinted at that the Forerunners are still alive. Perhaps the LP is the last of the Forerunners colonies, it's not that much of a stretch now is it? Bias is using/used John as way to show his former masters that he has repented and (this is just my opinion) has sent John in his place. I think John is going to be humanities ambassador to the Forerunners or perhaps simply their representative. 343 said that they would be exploring John's destiny and ultimate importance in the great scheme of things. It's seems that John is even more important than anyone of us has ever imagined. I think that the Forerunners will judge John to see if Humanity is finally ready to receive their inheritance and reclaim their rightful place in the Galaxy. Just my thoughts on the matter.[/quote] quite possibly the best speculation I have seen yet.

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  • Can someone care to tell me the relation between precursor and forerunner? Precursors are more advanced in tech right? And were passed down from forerunner? Srry if I'm completely wrong lol, but I do find the halo story interesting and confusing after knowing for a while that it's much bigger than I expected...

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  • This is why I love Halo.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Starless Legacy I'm always impressed with how much effort is put into something that is only contributing a community. Good work.[/quote] I second this.... Now lets see how all of this plays out :P

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