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Weekly What's Update

Nothing to write home about this week, but a few useful snippets nonetheless. We discuss a sad but small delay, the Halo 2 soundtrack, cheating (of course) and some impressions of the Xbox 360.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Canada05 I read a post containing information on why you wouldn't want a fuelrod gun, because it is too powerful. Why don't you put it on maps that are cov. game types and replace the rockets with the fuel rod? you wanted balance, well there you go.[/quote] I know im kinda restating myself, but ur exactly right. the fuel rod cannon doesnt lock onto things, although it is faster and has 6 per clip, but still, i wouldn't say the rocket isn't strong because that would be a lie. anyways, i bet nobody online would have a fit if u put in the fuel rod cannon on covenant game types or at least make it a weapon like the setinel beam, because the brute shot sux, no matter how hard u try it still blows. The fuel rod cannon can compare to the rocket launcher, not the brute shot and all its misory. GET IT RIGHT BUNGIE!!! WE WANT FUEL ROD CANNON! WE WANT FUEL ROD CANNON! Y DONT WE HAVE FUEL ROD CANNON! AHHHHHHH!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] .[/quote]3. I think your 3-strike policy is sound, though I'd want to take it a step further, by removing the boot option for players. People are griefing with it, shooting at their teammates without killing them, until their teammates retaliate, kill them, and then get booted by the GRIEFER!! That's not -blam!- right!!! And your example is sound enough. It's happened to me several times. I played a team rockets game, and I got booted. I mean, seriously, how can you hold your teammates THAT accountable in a ROCKETS game????[/quote] DUDE I TOTALLY AGREE!!! i get booted all the time what seems out of nowhere and i realize i accidently 'naded a teamate or shot at him as he came around a corner with no shield by ACCIDENT. that 3 strike rule would rule! w/e bungie has changed in the booting is really f'd up.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Thawmus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Freezerflame I'd just like to say for whoever talked about containment he's right. THere's only a tank and a warthog on the whole entire MAP!!!. Put the banshee in, and if bungie is afraid of peopel going outside the map cant u guys just update and close it? We need some more vehicles in that map. Like maybe a ghost and a banshee. Make it like waterworks. This map is big add more vehicles.[/quote] You should read my reply to the guy. He's wrong. The warthog respawns too quickly to -blam!- about it, and I've had a few moments already where I have to race the enemy flag to my base on foot, while they have our flag in a warthog, and I've BEAT THEM!!! The map is a LOT smaller than everyone thinks it is. What would a banshee or ghost add to the map? Two more people at their base in a matter of expediency, right? And what are they going to do? Sit in their -blam!- vehicles, exactly. Whereas having few vehicles promotes the use of the various tunnels in and out of the base, which is the main attraction to Containment, not giving the Scorpion more -blam!- to blow up.[/quote] I cant really comment on the warthog spawn issue, dont know that much about that issue. Now I dont want to sound rude or anything, but you were able to beat a warthog to the base??? You said you beat them to your base? what kind of CTF was this? Did the hog flip or something?? I mean the warthog vs someone running shouldnt be much of a contest. If you were able to do it, I give you props. But honestly, how often do you think someone would be able to do that? Even Frankie said it takes 30 seconds to get from one side to the other, I dont think it takes a hog that long. I still dont understand why it was removed. or even if a ghost would be added, that would be a plus (though I think a banshee would be better suited). If it was removed due to being used for sniping, look at the other levels with the Banshee (Coagulation - has banshee snipe point, Waterworks - has banshee snipe point, Headlong - assume there is a banshee snipe point). So that point is mute...also if that was the reason, why not have it so its impossible to get to the snipe points to begin with?? my big reason of wanting it back is for reasons like CTF, if the flag gets to a warthog, I feel that this would be best way to try and get your flag back (even though you said you beat the hog to the base, I wont dismiss that, but honestly what are the odds of that happening?) As for giving Scorpions more things to blow up, If a Banshee can dodge rockets (which can lock on), I'd beleive they would be able to dodge cannon fire

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  • hey EP1TAPH, how do you get on top of the power building in Zanzibar, because i saw someone do that while i was at Camp Froman( the sniper spot), and i have been very curious of knowing how to get up there????? please reply!!!

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  • there you go bungie i just got dropped again are you guys really messed up in your head or can you ac tually solve a problem i hope you can ireally do

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  • Thawmus, with reguards to your reply Sure, with glitches you have to learn how and have to try at them... but doesn't that go for sniping well? for sticking? for making critical jumps? Most bounces (other than that hard as hell Ascension one) are a pretty simple concept and once you DO learn how it doesnt take much special skill to do at all. Besides, if anyone asks "How'd you do that" I invite them to my party and show them after the match on what ever map I bounced. I try not to make it secret because then it IS an unfair advantage. Also, there's more ways (2 i know, 3 maybe) to get on top of the power base in Zanzibar other than bouncing, the two I know involve grenade jumping. I'd be mad if i was fedback for grenade jumping. :-\ Furthermore, I agree with your proposal to disable player-controled booting. It should be done by Bungie givin guidelines such as how many shot overall were shot at a person and so on, if that's possible. What's your gamertag?

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  • if any posible way give us some info on xbox 360 or maybe even a picture

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  • In the first question, what is "The Game" you are talking about? Sorry, I am dumb...

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  • bungie you suck i got booted from 10 gam,es strate for no reason i playing well and were aboutto win and then i just randomly get booted itrust yoru smart enough to fix this problem -

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  • wat i want to know is will halo2 be for xbox360 and will halo3 be for xbox 1

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  • You are full of crap to not mention Halo 2 for Xbox 360 or Halo 3. Even if they say you can't their are ways around that. Wasn't Halo for Apple? Whatever happened to your rebellious senses? You guys have been working on Xenon development kits for over a year now. Say something or may you have your fingers cut off for useless typing. [Edited on 5/17/2005]

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  • You mentioned in the main update that people purposly getting negative kills will be punished while you will lose no experience... (i think). Is that gonna go the same way because most of the Team Slayer games i play i roll out 20 to 30 kills while the rest of my team cant finish up... Is there some way you could make it not to punish the best player of the losing team if he/she gets more kills than anyone on the winning team?

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  • I read a post containing information on why you wouldn't want a fuelrod gun, because it is too powerful. Why don't you put it on maps that are cov. game types and replace the rockets with the fuel rod? you wanted balance, well there you go.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EP1TAPH Bungie, Epitaph Asks: 1. Can't you remove the "leave game" option? How about the only way to quit a game is by turning off your system. That way people don't quit and quit and quit, it becomes less attractive to have to "re-boot." Either that or disable gameplay for the duration of the game a quitter just left. Say someone left the game because they're selfish with 10mins remaining. Make it so that person can't play for 10 minutes. This way quitting is also unappealing. I understand sometimes there's emergencies such as lag or maybe some of the younger players get yelled at by their parents or something, in which case they can simply turn off the machine and do whatever it is they have to do. If a player quits, however, their score should become erased. Say they went 8 and 10 then quit... take 8 kills away from their own team and 10 kills away from the opposing team. Sure it will be 3 on 4, but erasing the score would be very good (especially since 8 and 10 is unlikely to quit, where as 4 and 16 would) 2. Also, I just started a new clan with some friends and we were level 1 and were matched up against a clan that was level 8. Are you serious? Granted we are not actually level 1 players and beat the other team, but I feel bad for the people who are! 3. Furthermore, there should be a 3-strike policy for betrayals. Especially with the new powerful grenades. And for you people who boot the person who betrayed you, respawn and ask why first. It was probably a mistake and instead of making teams uneven, just realize there is FF in Halo, and not everyone is out to get you. 4. Lastly, is glitching or super-bouncing considered cheating? Afterall, anyone can do it so it doesn't pose an unfair advantage. I just don't want to be fedback as cheating simply because I didn't know.[/quote] 1. I agree 95%. I disagree with removing the "leave game option". There are plenty of legitimate excuses for just leaving a game without turning off your xbox. Lag, betraying members of your team, glitchers, cheaters, standbyers. All usually cause ME to quit, and I plan on playing another game right after that. If I have to turn on my xbox, the experience will completely put me off of Halo that night. And I'm a pretty hard-core gamer. Imagine what casual gamers would go through. But I agree something needs to be done. I think quitter feedback needs to be in place. But I also think that Bungie needs to do something they haven't done yet with the banhammer. They need to publicize it. People think that nobody gets banned, and that's why they keep dicking around online. Bungie needs to start spewing numbers, and putting up a list of names. Then when people see the number of banned people fly by each day, then they might have a LITTLE more faith in the feedback system, and a little less faith in cheating. 2. I know, those levels are pissing me off. And not just in clanmatches, either. Every now and then I've played against people that are 7 levels below or above me. Make the skill levels more even? Are you serious??? 3. I think your 3-strike policy is sound, though I'd want to take it a step further, by removing the boot option for players. People are griefing with it, shooting at their teammates without killing them, until their teammates retaliate, kill them, and then get booted by the GRIEFER!! That's not -blam!- right!!! And your example is sound enough. It's happened to me several times. I played a team rockets game, and I got booted. I mean, seriously, how can you hold your teammates THAT accountable in a ROCKETS game???? 4. As far as I'm concerned, it's cheating, and I leave feedback when I see it. If I see people on the roof on Zanzibar, I leave feedback all the time. They shouldn't be up there. Everyone CAN do it, if they're TAUGHT how to do it, and specifically TRY to do it. That's where Bungie draws the line. It's taking advantage of a bug in the game.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EP1TAPH Wait, someone called Microsoft "M$" and then said they didn't market the xbox to make money? ha... I'm confused....[/quote] Ok, then let me unconfuse you. They plan to make a lot of money this time around, pretty much the same way they made a lot of money with windows. They're going to make a console that will almost be a STANDARD in the american household, just like they did for the american business. They made the first Xbox just to get a hold in the market, not to trounce the competition and make a lot of money. They'll make more than enough to make up for it all this time around. They didn't make so much money to be garnered as "M$" from being idiots. Right now, they have a PC that only THEY can make, that the average american household can afford, that has installed software only THEY sell, that employs only services that THEY can offer, and the only other people that make software that can be used on it (games), have to go through them to do it. It's Gates' wet dream. If you thought Microsoft Windows was monopolistic, you'd better hope that the 360 doesn't trounce the competition, which I think it will. Taking a profit loss with the Xbox? A fine dust that will blow away over the next 5 years. Marketing product isn't always about making money. You should take a few economics classes. You might be surprised to find out about all the OTHER things big companies go after in order to make money in the LONG RUN. Market share, for one, is almost as important, especially when you're entering an industry where your competitors have a FIRM foothold. And now Microsoft has that market share. They aren't Sony, they aren't Nintendo, but they boast the best damn graphics console still today, and the best damn online service for console gaming. And they are going to TROUNCE the competition because of those two strengths. Who cares about a past loss when you have a monopoly?

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  • Bungie, Epitaph Asks: 1. Can't you remove the "leave game" option? How about the only way to quit a game is by turning off your system. That way people don't quit and quit and quit, it becomes less attractive to have to "re-boot." Either that or disable gameplay for the duration of the game a quitter just left. Say someone left the game because they're selfish with 10mins remaining. Make it so that person can't play for 10 minutes. This way quitting is also unappealing. I understand sometimes there's emergencies such as lag or maybe some of the younger players get yelled at by their parents or something, in which case they can simply turn off the machine and do whatever it is they have to do. If a player quits, however, their score should become erased. Say they went 8 and 10 then quit... take 8 kills away from their own team and 10 kills away from the opposing team. Sure it will be 3 on 4, but erasing the score would be very good (especially since 8 and 10 is unlikely to quit, where as 4 and 16 would) 2. Also, I just started a new clan with some friends and we were level 1 and were matched up against a clan that was level 8. Are you serious? Granted we are not actually level 1 players and beat the other team, but I feel bad for the people who are! 3. Furthermore, there should be a 3-strike policy for betrayals. Especially with the new powerful grenades. And for you people who boot the person who betrayed you, respawn and ask why first. It was probably a mistake and instead of making teams uneven, just realize there is FF in Halo, and not everyone is out to get you. 4. Lastly, is glitching or super-bouncing considered cheating? Afterall, anyone can do it so it doesn't pose an unfair advantage. I just don't want to be fedback as cheating simply because I didn't know.

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  • Hey guys, I know this is random, but does any1 know where i could find out how to play a simplified version of the halo theme tune on keyboard? I've looked on the internet but can't find anything. I'd be really gratefull if someone could get it for me. 7hanks, Elite_44

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  • Wait, someone called Microsoft "M$" and then said they didn't market the xbox to make money? ha... I'm confused.... [Edited on 5/17/2005]

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  • I made the mistake of playing during the weekend when all the little kiddies are out. I played 25 games and over 60% had people quitting out. I had to sit though 10 minute games where we thrashed it up on some poor soul who was left behind. Conversely, my team would get killed by quitters. It is not fun. Now, I leave CHEATING feedback on them but that is not right. Bungie you said you would ban quitters. Please talk to Xbox-live and get a quitter feedback option. Another option would be to punish quitters by enforcing a 5min stand-down. If you have a legitimate reason to quit, 5min will not matter as you have to go anyhow. But if they are a sad little @^%$#^%# quitters 5min will make them stick it out. kiwiofdeath

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  • I'm having a problem with getting online it just won't get through at all and if I do get online with Halo2 I would be stuck in match making and won't let me play at all so can some one help me

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  • but guys there are fricking 5 new maps coming out so hold your cars this will be better than ... well mabye not better i don't even know what saying i just don't want to be let down so mabye its blam! ing good i don't know so i guess this is just gonna be awseome

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  • Call me an idiot all you like, but what the heck is the game that's being delayed til July 5? I'm so engrossed in Halo 2 I'm not aware of anything coming out soon.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Thawmus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Predator Butaro Just so you know, in the event that you can get a xbox 360, it is backwards compatable. So there is really no reason to make it for the original xbox. Why would they want to when you can play all xbox games on the 360. I mean seriously think about it. Ask whoever your with to give you an allowance and save that money for the big 360. thats what I plan on doing.[/quote] Whoever told you that the 360 would be backwards compatible needs a punch in the nose for lying to you. They use completely different hardware. Most console games are kinda like the Gentoo OS on the PC, they are VERY hardware specific. That's why the Xbox and other consoles are able to produce such damn fine games with very little power. The 360 has some impressive power, no doubt, but unless the games were made to be specific to both boxes, I don't see this happening.[/quote] You're both wrong. Microsoft has confirmed that it WILL be backwards compatibile. Check out sources like xbox360.ign.com for details. However, it won't support ALL previous titles, only "top sellers". The Xbox360 will include "optimized emulation" precompiled on the HDD for titles which Microsoft will pick and choose.

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  • I have been looking at some mods and I would like to bring up the issue of variation in gameplay once more (grenades and melee damage recently). I am not a modder and disagree with it but it interests me because of some things I saw done with it. I was looking on halogt.com and I saw a jackal shield dual wielded, this is such a great idea, not only does it bring another dimension to the game but it also could be balanced, as only one other dual wielding weapon could be held at the same time, and the shield could be destoyed by a charged plasma shot say. Although bungie reputes that new 'weapons' cannot be added to the game, to me this seems a great idea. Even the idea of a fuel rod gun also makes sense, even if only for customs. This was also used in the mods and it didn't affect the frame rate whatsoever, I don't know if this relates to the xbox being altered but surely bungie could do something about the 'frame rate' if they took an interest, perhaps they could do it for free considering they're charging us for new maps. Just a few thoughts on weapons. P.S. is this where the questions for the bungie update come from? [Edited on 5/17/2005]

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