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9/16/2015 7:16:57 PM
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3 New Subclasses Unlocked and tested: This is my initial conclusion for PVP and PVE:
I have unlocked all three sub classes and played them in PVE and PVP; this is my conclusion after trying all three (list goes from strongest to weakest):
1. Big Trouble In Little China-town / Raiden (Warlock Stormcaller)
General: Charges faster when around other guardians, short range, chain lightning
PVP:
Pro: I have seen quite a few multi kills in heavy ammo, but I have also demolished people using, so this super is basically map dependent. Tons of synergies between skills. Melee and grenades charge each other, increased melee range, panic button with super, and escape mechanism when heavily damaged.
Cons: Short range? Grenades are mediocre without chain web.
PVE:
Pros: Chains on multiple mobs with extreme prejudice. (Copy and paste) Melee and grenades charge each other, increased melee range, panic button with super, and escape mechanism when heavily damaged.
Cons: Probably not great for a boss fight except killing adds, but that's good too.
2. Titan SunNuker (Sunbreaker)
General great synergy: more grenades and melee, and standing in spots = more nukes, but very limited range. The projectivle travels in an arc, so you can use it behind cover. This super and side abilities are better PVE than Fist of Havoc.
PVP:
Pros:Tracking hammers has great potential, and the damage done by melee is awesome with the DoT.
Cons: Very vulnerable at range, but that's player issue; know your abilities.
PVE:
Pro: Every battle has tons of adds, so you can blow them to hell. Health regen for kills? I'll keep nuking.
Cons: Not too defensive, but it wasn't meant to be.
3. Hunters low budget nova bomb (Nightstalker)
General: There's no increase in super recharge speed, and no synergy (like titans get double melee/grenade regen when super energy is full).
PVP:
Pros: Dodge MIGHT be good, lots of traps for heavy ammo and points of interest.
Cons: It's a weaker nova bomb that tangles people; little to no synergy between skills
PVE:
Cons: Traps are useless; you progress forward, so mobs don't return to old spots.
Pros: Healing for killing tethered targets MIGHT be good group wise.
I'll be playing my warlock and titan mainly. Who will you play?
The hunter super might as well shoot a rainbow out of my character's butt instead of a and arrow off a bow.
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lmao low budget nova bomb
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4 RepliesEdited by JReyno: 9/16/2015 10:47:35 PMMm, no. Nightstalker is ridiculously good. Shadowshot doesn't lose potency like the damage supers. Tether with Blackhole completely shuts down hordes of enemies (incredibly useful against Taken). Nightstalker is also officially the go-to subclass for Orbs, as Light of the Pack makes any tethered enemy that dies generate an orb, no matter WHO kills them... even if it's some random patrol dude. Being able to make Shadowshot amplify damage to all targets or tether more targets at a greater range for a long time means that you'll be making orbs for days no matter what. If you want syngergy, use the Blood Bound perk for Shadowshot, and throw a Vortex grenade into a group of tethered enemies. Congrats for being able to kill groups faster than any other subclass. This same perk can make any damage super or ability relevant in any content. Shadowshot + Swords = Fun Also Monte Carlo + Smoke = blind all the things
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The nightstalker class worked really well. A guy pinned down a few targets. I killed two with a hammer and the others died due to the shared damage. It works well in court of Oryx especially with the three wizards and two knight.
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I've ripped bosses apart with the stormcaller super
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4 RepliesIn my opinion nightstalker is great, I could control shoot and tether everyone who's near the heavy. After that I throw my smoke and grenade on that location which will then kill everyone near it :/
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1 Reply[quote]Nightstalker and voidwalker are both void yet bow shot does less damage than nova bomb therefore it is terrible.[/quote] It a damn support subclass!! You're lucky it does any damage at all.. and you get 3 arrows! [quote]Traps are useless; you progress forward, so mobs don't return to old spots[/quote] How many times do you think a defender has popped a bubble and has had to walk away from it. Hunters cry for a support class and when you finally get it, they cry that it has minimal offensive value... wtf??
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Nightstalkers are for the tactically inclined. We went from loner nomads to arcane archer control freaks in a single day, it takes some adjustment. My biggest complaint is having to unlock triple jump again, and losing the relevancy of Eao's bones. I was so agile with those and directional jump. I was spoiled by it and now my ability to evade foes and navigate chasms has been neutered.
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4 RepliesNightstalker is way better than you claim. First off, everything crits for everyone on fireteam while enemies are tethered, even rockets, grenades, fusion rifles etc. Second, orbgasms everywhere. Easily able to generate 8 with multiple perk combinations. The grenades and melee are a bit weak, but they serve more of a CC purpose than anything. Hunters are the best support class in the game now, and i guarantee you will have at least one on your raid team friday.
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1 ReplyIt be nice to see what characters you have first
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I main a hunter but actually enjoy the warlock the most out of the newsub classes. That melee range is insane.
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2 RepliesYall said Hunters were op? They got a shit new subclass. Your welcome. -Bungie [spoiler]I'd still use nightstalker[/spoiler]
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TL;DR Stormcaller > SunNuker > Void Huntard
