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4/2/2009 5:17:14 AM
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Are the moderators more tolerant of the misbehavior of highly ranked member
So, i have recently come out of hiding. Mainly, due to boredom. I have not posted terribly much. However, a friend of mine mentioned me today that I should be banned because he thinks that all of my posts since my re-emergence border on spam. However, he thinks that the reason I have [i]not[/i] been banned is because of my Mythic status.
Now, as I've not come to the forums for quite a long time(to me), I have no idea if this seems to be a plausible, prevalent phenomenon.
What do you think?
EDIT: argh! accursed character limit in the title bar!
[Edited on 04.01.2009 9:20 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BadBall3r47 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bobcast [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pezz But as soon as they cross the line, just like anyone else, they're gone. [/quote] I guess my question is, why is the line drawn in different places for different members? [/quote]Is it?[/quote] Apparently. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pezz Most mythic members are long time institutions in the community, they're important to withold the sense of community and they're part of the experience. So that has a bearing sometimes.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x For me personally, Legendary and Mythic members get more leeway generally -- not necessarily because I know them, but because their member titles are a recognition of a long history of being around, being active, and not getting into trouble with the rules. In other words, if the website's trust rating trusts you enough to give you a legendary or blue bar, then I also trust you to not be the kind of person who intentionally breaks forum rules or simply does not care about them. For small mistakes, this definitely gives Legendary and Mythic members the advantage of having some leeway in their posting. [/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pezz We were always pretty impartial, or tried our best to be (inb4 snide comment by elmicker or Shai), but it's easier nowadays.[/quote] It's funny because shai's a jumper too.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bobcast [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pezz But as soon as they cross the line, just like anyone else, they're gone. [/quote] I guess my question is, why is the line drawn in different places for different members? [/quote]Is it?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pezz But as soon as they cross the line, just like anyone else, they're gone. [/quote] I guess my question is, why is the line drawn in different places for different members?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primum Agmen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I need one mythic member to volunteer themselves to participate in some testing of the "mythix don't get banned when members do" hypothesis.[/quote]Are we talking Mythic member with a clean rap or not here? Set out your test parameters, dammit! If your only difference is in whether or not they're Mythic or not, you have all manner of variables like ban lengths, frequency and how recent they were, join date, and whatever else. Scientific method and empiricism, boy![/quote]I have an interesting question: Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history. If only for the sake of the persons understanding rules that much better. Not sure, could be terrible logic on my part.[/quote][i]*Raises hand*[/i] Just kidding, I was banned once back in early '05.
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I don't think it matters. When i was a legendary member i posted a thread in the wrong forum and got banned. All it did was make me stop caring about member rank and so i started posting what i want when i want.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I'd do it myself, but Achronos has realised I'm far too cool to be mythic and has set it up so that I am permanently a member, the coolest rank there is.[/quote] Keep telling yourself that
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His disappointment is almost palpable.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x Sorry John, your feeling kinda makes sense, but there are plenty of Mythic Members with no warnings or blacklistings. Including many of the site's admins, Bungie employees, and Forum Ninjas.[/quote]Oh yeah! Hah, alright, that's cool then, makes sense to me. >_> <_< It was CAVX's idea in the first place :)
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[i]All[/i] bans are judgement calls. I assume that a ninja always takes the members history into account along with the seriousness of the infraction. So, Mythic members may seem to get more leniency because their history is lot cleaner than the average member.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history.[/quote]I was never banned or warned until the trust system came in. I was promoted to Mythic when it all settled down, and my first ban (14 days) was while I was Mythic. First warning came a few months later I think. So no, you don't need a history to be Mythicised.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history. If only for the sake of the persons understanding rules that much better.[/quote]Sorry John, your feeling kinda makes sense, but there are plenty of Mythic Members with no warnings or blacklistings. Including many of the site's admins, Bungie employees, and Forum Ninjas.[/quote] Were you ever banned Foman? I don't ever recall you being banned before. Edited for elaboration [Edited on 04.02.2009 6:00 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history. If only for the sake of the persons understanding rules that much better.[/quote]Sorry John, your feeling kinda makes sense, but there are plenty of Mythic Members with no warnings or blacklistings. Including many of the site's admins, Bungie employees, and Forum Ninjas.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primum Agmen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I need one mythic member to volunteer themselves to participate in some testing of the "mythix don't get banned when members do" hypothesis.[/quote]Are we talking Mythic member with a clean rap or not here? Set out your test parameters, dammit! If your only difference is in whether or not they're Mythic or not, you have all manner of variables like ban lengths, frequency and how recent they were, join date, and whatever else. Scientific method and empiricism, boy![/quote]I have an interesting question: Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history. If only for the sake of the persons understanding rules that much better. Not sure, could be terrible logic on my part.[/quote] I remember someone saying to me they had never been banned before, and they were Mythic. Damn, I'll have to remember who it was.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primum Agmen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I need one mythic member to volunteer themselves to participate in some testing of the "mythix don't get banned when members do" hypothesis.[/quote]Are we talking Mythic member with a clean rap or not here? Set out your test parameters, dammit! If your only difference is in whether or not they're Mythic or not, you have all manner of variables like ban lengths, frequency and how recent they were, join date, and whatever else. Scientific method and empiricism, boy![/quote] I thought a [i]mythic[/i] member would be able to realise that all my methods are strictly empirical. A member and a mythic make the same actions at similar times and we observe who is banned first/at all. SCIENCE, MAN. SCIENCE.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primum Agmen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I need one mythic member to volunteer themselves to participate in some testing of the "mythix don't get banned when members do" hypothesis.[/quote]Are we talking Mythic member with a clean rap or not here? Set out your test parameters, dammit! If your only difference is in whether or not they're Mythic or not, you have all manner of variables like ban lengths, frequency and how recent they were, join date, and whatever else. Scientific method and empiricism, boy![/quote]I have an interesting question: Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history. If only for the sake of the persons understanding rules that much better. Not sure, could be terrible logic on my part. [Edited on 04.02.2009 5:49 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I need one mythic member to volunteer themselves to participate in some testing of the "mythix don't get banned when members do" hypothesis.[/quote]Are we talking Mythic member with a clean rap or not here? Set out your test parameters, dammit! If your only difference is in whether or not they're Mythic or not, you have all manner of variables like ban lengths, frequency and how recent they were, join date, and whatever else. Scientific method and empiricism, boy!
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For me personally, Legendary and Mythic members get more leeway generally -- not necessarily because I know them, but because their member titles are a recognition of a long history of being around, being active, and not getting into trouble with the rules. If I send a message to a Mythic Member asking him to please not make a certain type of post, or please be sure to post in a certain forum from now on, I know I will get a response back that is coherent and reasonable. If I post in a Mythic Member's off-topic thread with the reason why the thread is being locked, I know that the Mythic Member will read it and try to avoid doing that kind of thing anymore. In other words, if the website's trust rating trusts you enough to give you a legendary or blue bar, then I also trust you to not be the kind of person who intentionally breaks forum rules or simply does not care about them. For small mistakes, this definitely gives Legendary and Mythic members the advantage of having some leeway in their posting. Like Saint said, however, it can result in harsher penalties for rulebreaking that is clearly intentional or a flagrant violation of long-established and obvious forum rules. [Edited on 04.02.2009 5:44 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] T1B3R7uMB0YXVI Years after his curse being in the [b]Legendary statue[/b], he retrieved his [b]mythic statue[/b] yesterday.[/quote]Where can I get me one of those?[/quote] My account lol. You flattering me, John. Anyway, Like yoozel said, Mythic knows much rules around here. That is one thing that they really deserve a mythic member.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] T1B3R7uMB0YXVI Years after his curse being in the [b]Legendary statue[/b], he retrieved his [b]mythic statue[/b] yesterday.[/quote]Where can I get me one of those? [Edited on 04.02.2009 5:35 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Celtic Tiger I haven't seen a Mythic member blacklisted. Because they don't do anything to deserve that.[/quote] Verachi, whom have been a Mythic member long time ago, was blacklisted due of multiple spam. Years after his curse being in the Legendary statue, he retrieved his mythic statue yesterday. On topic: Mythic member have the same level for all the member, but have history of being well known by a bungie employee or the moderators.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Skibur I'm totally biased.[/quote]Well, you [i]did[/i] start the Mythic Members group. Or, DA CHEEEF 1987 did, which was you, before you managed to get your name changed. ]:
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yoozel Having a mythic bar to me tells me that you should know how to act around here and you should know the rules. [/quote]Mmm, a friend of mine was banned (and his Mythic status subsequently stripped by the algorithm) for what was an, at maximum, warning offence. Because he should know better and set an example for lower-ranked members. So there's a balance - a few of the Mythic members might get a bit more leeway because the moderators know (of) them so they know when they're joking, for instance, but that's cancelled by the occasional more harsh treatment on the grounds that if you're an older member ignorance is definitely not an excuse.
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I always thought that the titles were supposed to be a visible display our trust rating. The moderators can't honestly be required to know the millions of member we have today. The title sort of tells a history of the member.
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I was under the impression Mythic Members were perfect and should never be questioned. GAH, I need to get away from the Septagon more, it's [i]too nice[/i] here.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rampancy I need one mythic member to volunteer themselves to participate in some testing of the "mythix don't get banned when members do" hypothesis.[/quote] So... you're gonna ask a Mythic member to try and get banned? ... Ask Snakie next time he's Mythic. He'd be glad to do it.[/quote] I'd do it myself, but Achronos has realised I'm far too cool to be mythic and has set it up so that I am permanently a member, the coolest rank there is.
