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Oryx, the Hive, and the Darkness
[b]I am not a Bungie employee, merely a fan who is interested in the lore.[/b]
I strongly believe that Oryx is both Darkness and Hive, but in a different way than Crota. Crota was a creation of Oryx the same way the Hive were a creation of the Five Hive Gods (Oryx, Eir, Ur, Xol, and Yul). While he and his siblings ([url=http://i.imgur.com/BKKtVtx.png]three of which I believe can be seen here[/url]) were made with Darkness, they are Hive. Oryx is not just a Hive.
Oryx is what I call a "true" Hive. He is the original and all other Hive are made in his form, to an extent (as seen above). Oryx is a member of the Darkness and the Hive are based off him, giving reason to why they have a similar appearance to him yet he still having very unique traits (such as wings and the ability to control living creatures).
Now, something that's interesting about this is that there are still four other Hive "gods" to consider. Does that mean there are different variants of Hive that are created by each of the Five? Oryx's direct Hive disciples are the Blood of Oryx, but I'd argue that all the Hive we've seen are of his design. It may even be possible that the other four have different species entirely, or something much different in nature. Perhaps Oryx commands the armies while the others do other things.
The thing this begs an answer to most is if the Hive gods are truly the Darkness or just another rung on the ladder below the top. [url=http://i.imgur.com/jsYs959.jpg]Oryx's dreadnought[/url] is not the same as [url=http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SePcw4hX--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18ixae8746vpsjpg.jpg]the Onyx Pyramids of old[/url], unless the look has changed. No, I think Oryx and the other four might just be a branch of the Darkness that controls the Hive and Taken.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/pNjwh6o.png]The Darkness is coming, and Oryx is just the beginning.[/url]
Thoughts?
Edit: [b]This is an old thread. I'll probably make an updated one that focuses on new information some time soon.[/b]
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10 RepliesIf The Darkness is the opposite of Light, then it isn't a physical thing. On a scale of most dark to most light: Hive Vex Cabal Eliksni Guardians This is obvious even in the way they look. The Hive are absolutely terrifying in every aspect. They lay eggs, burrow under planets, hide in the shadows then rip their targets limb from light. Vex are pretty scary too; they want to be integrated into the laws of physics. They are less dark than hive because they don't want to eradicate Light, just control EVERYTHING. They also were not born into the darkness, they merely adopted it. Cabal have nasty faces and blow large things up. Sounds pretty evil, but it also sounds like any basic antagonist. They fear the Darkness and want to conquer everything else. The Eliksni experienced The Traveler. They want the Light, they are just misguided in their attempts at getting it, which makes them evil, but not dark. Guardians obviously are fighting for the traveler. Not much needs said about us. Looking at it from this perspective means that motives seem to be a good measure of Darkness. Oryx wants revenge for his son's death. Now, thinking back to the other races. Everyone is terrified of The Darkness, except vex and hive. Vex have already submitted to it, so that leaves the hive. The hive are truly the children of the darkness. Our traveler is sick, and the hive are pestilent. Oryx WIELDS the darkness and uses it to create his Taken Army. Now, the question is, did Oryx create (for lack of better term) The Darkness, or did The Darkness lend it's evil to him? I believe The Darkness LENT it's power to the Hive god/kings for one simple reason: their is more than one ruler. I know you can argue and say that there are multiple gods in many religions and mythologies, but they all share one thing—the ruler of the gods (zeus, ra, etc...). Because we cannot discern a highest-up of the highest-ups, I am going to say it is a hierarchy rather than a religious council. This being said, we have 5 Hive kings. Now, when choosing leaders, you don't just give a few people ultimate power. A leader rules his/her entire nation, and does not share his/her power. The only explanation as to why there are multiple kings is that the Hive disagree on SOMETHING. I believe this something relates directly to The Darkness. Maybe it's a disagreement on origin? Beliefs? True ownership of The Darkness? This is the question I'm asking: Why don't they agree? How will we know how to fight our enemy, if they don't even understand their own power?
