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Edited by Lord Genesis : 5/10/2015 5:53:08 PM
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Superman Prime Debunked

[B] Introduction[/B] [b][i] Heavy credit to MysticMedivh from Comicvine.com [/b][/i] TL;DR Superman Prime has none of the powers people say he has, nor did he break into the source walk or revive anyone or anything. The infamous Superman of of the 853rd century. He is renowned for being virtually featless and having his feats blown out of proportion by others across the internet, so today I'll be taking a closer look at our Golden Son of Krypton, and I'll try to separate the facts from the fiction. Just to clarify, this is not a Superman hate thread, and I myself have nothing against Superman, however, the truth is more important than the untruth. [B]False Information[/B] You may see people posting a list of his powers, claiming anything from him being second to the Presence to being so strong that he can lift omniverses. Here's the list of supposed powers many people have used and have had claimed he has: [Spoiler]Creation Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing. Ressurection Superman Prime can resurrect the dead. Omniscience Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun. Omnipotence Superman Prime has near limitless abilities as far as we can see. He is second to the Presence. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced. Godlike Super strength His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting the omniverse. Godlike Super speed His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings. Godlike Super Senses Immunity Superman Prime is immune to magic, Kryptonite, lightning, telepathy, matter manipulation, etc. Godlike X-ray vision He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions. Godlike Heat vision A million times hotter than the core of a star. Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance Limitless power and energy. Cannot be exhausted. Can fight forever. Godlike Invulnerability Capable of surviving the end of the multiverse. Godlike Super Hearing Cosmic awareness. Immortality Superman Prime will live until the end of reality. [/spoiler] These supposed powers are simply ridiculous. Not only has Superman Prime One Million never shown any of these powers, but they are easily dismissible and contradict his actual feats, what little feats he does have anyways. But one might ask where such claims came from? None other than a DC and Superman wiki, copied and pasted. All of those things listed above. Yes, it seems that a Superman fan went across various comic book wikis and proceeded to input their own beliefs about the powers and capabilities of Superman Prime One Million (in which everything listed was evidently false and based on literally nothing). They're not kidding when they say "Anyone can edit a wiki" To my knowledge this has since then been removed from the wikis, but that's where those claims of his "powers" above first originated from. In case you've already seen it, or may see it in the future, now you'll know the inaccurate and unreliable source that spawned it. I just wanted to get that cleared up. [B]Context and Circumstances of His Feats[/B] Let's examine his few actual feats and see what we can deduct from them. Claim: He resurrected Lois Lane. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4374706-4165893-dc%2Bone%2Bmillion%2B004-018.jpg Lets take a closer look at the words http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4374709-ressurect.png Lzyxm Ltpkz (a 5th Dimensional Imp) used Lois's DNA samples (that Kyle Rayner retrieved from Solaris) and resurrected Lois along with Superman Prime One Million. Conclusion: He cannot resurrect someone without their DNA. He cannot resurrect someone without the help of a 5th Dimensional Imp. Claim: He created a universe. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4374876-3486029-superman%2Bprime%2Bone%2Bmillion.png Once again, we need to take a closer look at what he's saying. "Welcome to my universe." His statement does not prove he created a universe in any way, shape, or form. Atom's universe was destroyed, not only does Superman Prime One Million admit he couldn't stop the destruction of his universe, but being the polite man Clark was raised to be by the Kent family, he was simply welcoming/greeting Atom to this other reality he just incidentally came into. For example, just because I greeted by friend and said "Welcome to my home" doesn't mean I actually built it. However, there is one defining fact that most people overlook. DC One Million all takes place in the 853rd century. Ring a bell? The 853rd century is Post-Crisis Earth, the main continuity from 1986-2011. It's the same universe after Crisis on Infinite Earths (before CoIE was the Golden, Silver, and Bronze Ages) and before Flashpoint (after Flashpoint is New 52), the only difference is that this takes place in the future. We know for a fact that Superman Prime One Million did not create the universe which was the main continuity from 1986-2011 known as Post-Crisis, further reinforcing the fact that he was just welcoming/greeting Atom. Conclusion: He did not create his own universe. He could not stop the destruction of another universe. Claim: He recreated Planet Krypton and resurrected all of its inhabitants. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111142536/4374727-4165894-dc%2Bone%2Bmillion%2B004-019.jpg Once again, look at the words. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111142536/4400552-9k%3D.jpg "That's what they did. For him." and "It was all for him". Kyle Rayner, the narrator, is referring to what the Justice Legion (specifically Hourman) did for "him", Superman Prime One Million, who finally returned from the Sun after 15,000 years. Nowhere in this scan does it say that Superman Prime One Million recreated Krypton and resurrected its inhabitants, the narrator says how the others brought back Krypton "for him". Here's the full context of what actually happened: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4398154-2479525126-15747.jpg [quote]"During the celebrations, Hourman reached into the past, seconds before Krypton exploded and created a duplicate of the planet in the 853rd century. He then reached back and plucked the population of Krypton from their world in the seconds after the launch of Kal-El's rocket and before Krypton's final destruction. All this created the world of New Krypton where Superman Prime could live amongst other superpowered Kryptonians, including his parents, as a gift from his comrades in the Justice League and Legions."[/quote] In fact, you can see Hourman doing this on the page right before Superman Prime One Million visits New Krypton. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4477882-gfjgfjgf.png See anything familiar? The green object in the sky (right above Superman Prime One Million kissing Lois Lane) is planet Krypton as it was exploding. The rocket? It's carrying the young Kal-El, destined to Earth. Hourman uses the power of the Worlogog to bring it back. Conclusion: Did not recreate the planet Krypton. Did not resurrect its inhabitants. Claim: He easily defeated the mighty Solaris. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111142536/4375610-497329-35_dccomics1m4pg17.jpg Solaris fought the entire Justice Legion Alpha, Justice League, and the heroes of the 853rd century in a battle of epic proportions. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11114/111142536/4379764-1.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11114/111142536/4379765-2.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11114/111142536/4379766-3.jpg As the battle is raging on the outside, Kyle Rayner, inside of Solaris, speaks with the Justice League. He is told that he must increase the mass of Solaris and destabilize his core in order to make him go supernova and blow up. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11114/111142536/4379780-d.png http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11114/111142536/4379786-e.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_avatar/11114/111142536/4379787-f.jpg [Continued in comment.]

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  • Edited by Heavens: 5/11/2015 3:51:23 PM
    Lol. I hope we don't end up with somebody like that in Dragon Ball Z. Everyone will end up Saiyan Whis could blink someone out of existence, the community might end up as toxic as DC/Marvel's. Edit: Although it's already toxic enough with all the people who think SSJ4 Gogeta is stronger than any of the Gods.

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