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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Old Wolf US One more thing before I head to work. I think that Maddie is probably the main AI for New Mombasa, and she is taken out by the blast (either physically, or the EMP has disabled her systems temporarily or permanently). The Superintendent is then left to try to do the best he can to fix the city and alert the authorities, but he can't do that in the normal way, either because he doesn't have higher-level communications routines (i.e. he's a low-level AI that reports to Maddie, and then she compiles reports and sends them to human administrators) or he had those functions and has been damaged (as previously suggested by Jumper I believe). Now the SI is looking for Maddie because he needs help in reorganising the city, and he's trying to communicate with UNSC Fleet using his low-level communication protocols (such as Keep It Clean and Obey Posted Limits, I think all he can say is whatever he can post on electronic billboards throughout New Mombasa, and this has a very limited vocabulary of road signs, warning signs etc). [/quote] That was actualy one of the best presumptions iv'e heard, sure hope so. It fits right in with the Halo universe from my point of view.
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One more thing before I head to work. I think that Maddie is probably the main AI for New Mombasa, and she is taken out by the blast (either physically, or the EMP has disabled her systems temporarily or permanently). The Superintendent is then left to try to do the best he can to fix the city and alert the authorities, but he can't do that in the normal way, either because he doesn't have higher-level communications routines (i.e. he's a low-level AI that reports to Maddie, and then she compiles reports and sends them to human administrators) or he had those functions and has been damaged (as previously suggested by Jumper I believe). Now the SI is looking for Maddie because he needs help in reorganising the city, and he's trying to communicate with UNSC Fleet using his low-level communication protocols (such as Keep It Clean and Obey Posted Limits, I think all he can say is whatever he can post on electronic billboards throughout New Mombasa, and this has a very limited vocabulary of road signs, warning signs etc).
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Old Wolf US Actually, looking at the vid again, I think the explosion IS Regret entering Slipspace. If you pause it, it looks like a wavefront emanating from the front of his ship. That would explain the EMP pulse. So the conclusion is that the space elevator was NOT destroyed by Regret entering Slipspace, and must happen later on. Defending it (or maybe destroying it to prevent the Covenant from using it) would make an AWESOME level in the expansion pack. How cool a set piece would that be, watching it crash to the Earth? It would certainly beat the Gears of War "water cooler moments". Oooooo![/quote] Yes it would, it would kick "riding a bhrumak" in the ars!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpartanL127 Ok this is the current info i was able to gather *bungies teaser trailer [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3apZU3ip0Hw[/url] *the following is info gathered form the video by the community *stop at 13 seconds it will say new city of mombosa on the left side -There is a building labelled traxus in the beginning. -The camera angles are labelled -Tanaga -Lumumba -Mbaraki -Error (also flashes Sidiriyai and Makadara) -Sign says "evacuate city of New Mombasa" *lines read: "Maddie, where are you?"[url]http://zlmgow.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pYlMYW57fDd6OXgdOCRmHeDjHWTtNNWhw-NMKnQZZh5nPe2QVV_uJmXUKFzXU4xzTc-iRGOPHIlU/IMG_0054%5B1%5D.jpg[/url] *at about 12 seconds you can see a covenant cruizer in the background, above the amd building. *Bungies teaser trailer XBL desc. "High action and deep mystery await players in this new halo 3 campaign experience. Prepare to Drop." [url]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh281/spitfire3088/PIC-0013.jpg[/url] *at 44 sec in you can see the Cruiser taking up the whole skyline again, and then at 48 it's gone, after a message in frame 2 in sec 48 saying that Evacuation is complete. [url]http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/KeepItClean_SI/?action=view¤t=Image9.jpg[/url] *if everyone remembers by the time master cheif arrives on earth the convenant are already in control and the earth armies are barely hanging on so this game would be the brute invasion of earth before master chief arrives,,, also in the orginal halo 3 trailer new mambosa is destroyed, this teaser is showing its destruction. *There was an EMP(Electromagnetic Pulse) blast. *what does [SUPCONDITION DATE:] + 1117 mean? november 17? (about 00:57) [url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/peabnuts123/november17th.jpg[/url] *Si says that the population is 0 and that evac is complete *24 seconds in I think I hear Cortana Saying "Chief" *at 22 seconds u can hear the word "Commander" * around 00:47 seconds into the video, in the bottom left corner... >>RUNNING SUBROUTINE: "VERGIL" DATA LEAK ON LEVEL 9! [url]http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/KeepItClean_SI/?action=view¤t=Image23.jpg[/url] *sierrea 117 [url]http://timmoelard.nl/benaan/sierra117.png[/url] *jan 6 2009? [url]http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/bungie-date-reveal-490.jpg[/url] [/quote] On behalf of everyone in this thread: Thank you very much for putting this together Spartan, this is an enormous contribution!
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Actually, looking at the vid again, I think the explosion IS Regret entering Slipspace. If you pause it, it looks like a wavefront emanating from the front of his ship. That would explain the EMP pulse. So the conclusion is that the space elevator was NOT destroyed by Regret entering Slipspace, and must happen later on. Defending it (or maybe destroying it to prevent the Covenant from using it) would make an AWESOME level in the expansion pack. How cool a set piece would that be, watching it crash to the Earth? It would certainly beat the Gears of War "water cooler moments". Oooooo! [Edited on 09.25.2008 9:52 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpartanL127 * around 00:47 seconds into the video, in the bottom left corner... >>RUNNING SUBROUTINE: "VERGIL" DATA LEAK ON LEVEL 9! [url]http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/KeepItClean_SI/?action=view¤t=Image23.jpg[/url] *sierrea 117 [url]http://timmoelard.nl/benaan/sierra117.png[/url] *jan 6 2009? [url]http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/bungie-date-reveal-490.jpg[/url] [/quote] Sooo... Somebody want to check out level two (Sierrea 117) and nine (Cortana)? It's possible that they may have added a few clues for us with the TU2. I would but my roommate is sleeping on the couch in the living room, and I don't want to wake him.
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January might be right. It's 18 months after the release of Halo 3, and it's right after the holiday crunch (where there are an awful lot of highly anticipated games coming out) when kids have their Christmas money to buy MS points.
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xbox 360 fanboy does a video analysis of bungies teaser trailer [url]http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/09/25/x3f-tv-video-analysis-of-bungies-keep-it-clean-teaser/[/url]
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I bet money that it comes out January 6, 2009. At 0:50, third line below >HALO 3 there is 0000 01 06 09 00000 EDIT - Not to mention that it's a tuesday - typical release day for CD's/Movies/games [Edited on 09.25.2008 9:42 AM PDT]
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It is a large explosion, but when the Covenant glass planets they do so with enormously powerful weapons that are designed for ship-to-ship combat. There is an EMP pulse, which suggests a weapon other than plasma, now that I think about it. I'm not sure whether the excavation site in Halo 3 is the same hole as the crater left behind by Regret entering Slipspace. I got the impression that the excavation was near Voi, further away frm New Mombasa. Can't you see the ruins of New Mombasa miles away in the background on those levels in Halo 3?
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I would like to say that I was not disappointed at all by the video, and I don't see why others would be. This expansion is exactly what a lot of us were hoping for, a new game. It's just not in the format we were expecting. What Bungie is doing here is actually quite smart. They have had one full year since Halo 3's release. That's at least 1 full year for them to create the content for this expansion using the exact same tool set and pipeline that they already had in place for Halo 3. It's likely that there were a few people at bungie who were working on the expansion prior to the H3 release, and the full transition afterward must have been effortless. Although they have been busy with new maps too. Reason to do an expansion to Halo 3 instead of release a whole new game? From Halo Combat Evolved to Halo 2 to Halo 3 the engine has remained pretty much the same system between the game's iterations, just expanded functionality. I believe their doing an expansion because the system they have works. It's likely that in it's current state the engine can produce higher quality visuals than Halo 3, just the assets don't push it far enough. I think it's safe to say we can expect to get some extra eye candy out of this one. We may also see some new game play mechanics as well. Additions made to the engine will be minimal, but there will be some (if we're getting a tactical shooter). [b]NOTE:[/b]I say that from my experience with Halo Custom Edition and modification of Halo 2 and 3's files. I am not a "modder". I don't own a modded Xbox of any kind. I play legitimately over Xbox Live, and I like it that way. I am however an overly curious software engineer. I spend time picking apart the map files used in the Halo games purely for fun and simply to see how much about them and their structure I can figure out (currently Halo 3). It's just one of many personal challenges I have.
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*jan 6 2009? http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/b ungie-date-reveal-490.jpg Where did this pic come from?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b]The Old Wolf US You're right. At first I thought that the explosion was Regret (not Truth as I earlier stated) entering Slipspace, but the stalk is still standing at the end of the trailer. The explosion must be Regret's fleet attacking New Mombasa with conventional (plasma) weapons right after they blow past the orbital defenses at the start of Halo 2. The Covenant are attacking New Mombasa (you can hear gunfire right at the beginning of the vid), and the UNSC sends its elite rapid response force (the ODSTs) as an initial counterattack. I'd imagine that this forms the first level of the expansion pack, and we get to see the destruction of New Mombasa by Regret entering Slipspace from the ground at the end of that level. Either way, I think that my initial theory that the expansion pack is set between the MC leaving Earth and coming back and is told from the point of view of an ODST still stands. [/quote] Thats probably it, but it's a rather large explosion. Perhaps they tried "digging" conventional (plasma) weapons but failed, thus using the slipspace implotion to ridd the portal of buildings as a last resort?.. [Edited on 09.25.2008 9:29 AM PDT]
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Restatement: This is when Cheif leaves Earth aboard the "In amber clad". Edit2: I "jumped the gun" just as Regret did hehe. It is probably before Chief arives/ at the same time. Still unsecure though. [Edited on 09.25.2008 9:21 AM PDT]
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Ok this is the current info i was able to gather *bungies teaser trailer [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3apZU3ip0Hw[/url] *the following is info gathered form the video by the community *stop at 13 seconds it will say new city of mombosa on the left side -There is a building labelled traxus in the beginning. -The camera angles are labelled -Tanaga -Lumumba -Mbaraki -Error (also flashes Sidiriyai and Makadara) -Sign says "evacuate city of New Mombasa" *lines read: "Maddie, where are you?"[url]http://zlmgow.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pYlMYW57fDd6OXgdOCRmHeDjHWTtNNWhw-NMKnQZZh5nPe2QVV_uJmXUKFzXU4xzTc-iRGOPHIlU/IMG_0054%5B1%5D.jpg[/url] *at about 12 seconds you can see a covenant cruizer in the background, above the amd building. *Bungies teaser trailer XBL desc. "High action and deep mystery await players in this new halo 3 campaign experience. Prepare to Drop." [url]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh281/spitfire3088/PIC-0013.jpg[/url] *at 44 sec in you can see the Cruiser taking up the whole skyline again, and then at 48 it's gone, after a message in frame 2 in sec 48 saying that Evacuation is complete. [url]http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/KeepItClean_SI/?action=view¤t=Image9.jpg[/url] *if everyone remembers by the time master cheif arrives on earth the convenant are already in control and the earth armies are barely hanging on so this game would be the brute invasion of earth before master chief arrives,,, also in the orginal halo 3 trailer new mambosa is destroyed, this teaser is showing its destruction. *There was an EMP(Electromagnetic Pulse) blast. *what does [SUPCONDITION DATE:] + 1117 mean? november 17? (about 00:57) [url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/peabnuts123/november17th.jpg[/url] *Si says that the population is 0 and that evac is complete *24 seconds in I think I hear Cortana Saying "Chief" *at 22 seconds u can hear the word "Commander" * around 00:47 seconds into the video, in the bottom left corner... >>RUNNING SUBROUTINE: "VERGIL" DATA LEAK ON LEVEL 9! [url]http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/KeepItClean_SI/?action=view¤t=Image23.jpg[/url] *sierrea 117 [url]http://timmoelard.nl/benaan/sierra117.png[/url] *jan 6 2009? [url]http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/bungie-date-reveal-490.jpg[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the real Janaka Teaser trailer: After watching it for an uncounteble amount of times I have come to some conclusions. At first i thoaght: The trailer takes place when Regret,Counsil of most high, heirarch of the Covenant, enters slipspace while still being in the atmosphere above Mombasa, just next to the "Space elevator" (I forgot what it's called). Thus sending huge chunks of the city in to space and explaining the explosion in the background. This at the same point as the drop pods are about to "land". The camera shows what happens in various small towns around Mombassa at the time of previous stated event. But then I realised that in the end of the trailer, that the "Space elevator" still stod erected. So it couldent have been then. It must have been before. So now I wonder, what happened before? Nothing, that I can think of. I mean the Covenent didn't stay long in their first assult, it wasnt even an assult, they didn't know that humans lived on earth at that point. Can anyone explain? Jumper, anyone?![/quote] You're right. At first I thought that the explosion was Regret (not Truth as I earlier stated) entering Slipspace, but the stalk is still standing at the end of the trailer. The explosion must be Regret's fleet attacking New Mombasa with conventional (plasma) weapons right after they blow past the orbital defenses at the start of Halo 2. The Covenant are attacking New Mombasa (you can hear gunfire right at the beginning of the vid), and the UNSC sends its elite rapid response force (the ODSTs) as an initial counterattack. I'd imagine that this forms the first level of the expansion pack, and we get to see the destruction of New Mombasa by Regret entering Slipspace from the ground at the end of that level. Either way, I think that my initial theory that the expansion pack is set between the MC leaving Earth and coming back and is told from the point of view of an ODST still stands. [Edited on 09.25.2008 9:14 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] URSCREWED 10 so this is right before maser chief comes to earth right?[/quote] No, it must be when Cheif is on Delta Halo. I doubt that he has anything to do with this game. Edit: If you mean when he crashlands in the thierd game, then yes. Edit2: I "jumped the gun" just as Regret did hehe. It is probably before Chief arives/ at the same time. Still unsecure though. [Edited on 09.25.2008 9:21 AM PDT]
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not this is way before that last cut scene
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I believe... If you have seen the *secret* ending on the last level where master chief is in the floating half of that ship, I believe this will come down on a unknown place maybe? Earth? I dont know.
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so this is right before maser chief comes to earth right?
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i think your exactly right..goood call
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Teaser trailer: After watching it for an uncounteble amount of times I have come to some conclusions. At first i thoaght: The trailer takes place when Regret,Counsil of most high, heirarch of the Covenant, enters slipspace while still being in the atmosphere above Mombasa, just next to the "Space elevator" (I forgot what it's called). Thus sending huge chunks of the city in to space and explaining the explosion in the background. This at the same point as the drop pods are about to "land". The camera shows what happens in various small towns around Mombassa at the time of previous stated event. But then I realised that in the end of the trailer, that the "Space elevator" still stod erected. So it couldent have been then. It must have been before. So now I wonder, what happened before? Nothing, that I can think of. I mean the Covenent didn't stay long in their first assult, it wasnt even an assult, they didn't know that humans lived on earth at that point. Can anyone explain? Jumper, anyone?!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Next Pro Jumper Well, everyone, I'm back, but not for long. I'm in school right now. I can tell nothing is new though, so I guess we're just waiting for the Superintendent to post again. Not going to lie, this thread went completely off topic for a while, but it's slowly going back, but entering circles. Unfortunately, people are asking repeat questions, as I suspected. Look, S1 most probably means ONI Section 1, not Spartan 1.[/quote] I'm probably late (can't be arsed to read another 40 pages) but from what I have read from the books, Next Pro Jumper is probably right. ONI Section 3, which comes up a lot in the Halo books, are very secretive and stealthy. They rarely do any direct action. Section 1 is probably generally the same. It makes perfect sense since ONI is one of the highest ranking organizations in the UNSC. A normal ONI officer can give orders to a general during a planetary operation, which by the chain of command MUST be followed. Based on that, even fleet admirals would have to obey senior officers and higher. It would also explain the manner in which the so called 'S1' speaks. ONI officers are calm in nearly all circumstances, and it seems the situation on the ground is very desperate. Any other captain requesting assistance would likely be rather moody, even speaking to an admiral.
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well, the 6 mythic maps Assembly, heretic, citadel, sandbox, longshore, orbital pretty much HAVE to be multiplayer maps cuz if u read the achievement list it says u ahve to get killtaculars, exterminations, etc. on ranked or social on a mythic map. soo...expansion pack will be awesome (at school)
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Guys, that was the Glassing of New Mombasa. at :24 you can see Regret, then the ship is gone right after the flash. This is the story of the time in Mombasa POST-glassing
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I see. I suppose I should jump in the shower and head to work myself. Stupid prostate cancer won't cure itself, so it's up to me I'm afraid. *heads to shower grumbling about science and grad school interfering with gaming*
