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Edited by Hollywood88: 12/2/2016 1:26:31 PM
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Destiny Plasma TV owners

Hey guys, thought it was my duty for people that did not know or were having these issues with their plasma that Bungie did address the static hud issue with the April 16 update. You need to go into settings, go to right side last option "accessibility". On top right you will see HUD opacity. Choose low to be super safe. I have been playing since then on my VT60 and it has solved my problems. I can't give kudos to bungie since they knew about this back in the beta and did nothing before release. Plus I had to stay away from a game I loved for almost a year and a half. But bungie did make things right and the game never leaves my tray. So thank you Bungie. Since Bungie has stayed silent on the matter of patching the HUD since NOV., I thought it Might help them to understand how Many people play on a plasma TV. So if you play Destiny on a Plasma, reply to this thread. Also note if you have stopped playing due to the image retention damage that the HUD causes on a plasma. I play on a panny vt60. I have discontinued playing in early Jan. Due to the screen burn that the HUD caused. Will not play until a transparency and brightness patch is issued for the HUD as well as the option to remove the HUD. Thanks As an update, I don't want to use this thread as a debate of the best tv's for gaming. I get it, lcds for gaming are better. That's your opinion. Let's stick to the topic which is to compile how many people play destiny on plasma tvs and which of those people have had burn issues. And if you have had your lcd burned by the HUD, please let us all know because I have read that it's a problem there in extreme circumstances. 2nd update. I appreciate all of your feedback. It's truly helped in zeroing in on a trend of the size and type of plasma sets that have been affected. Please keep this thread going as it can only help all of us affected by learning of how many people out here have the same exact predicament. I do not believe I have read one person with a 2011-2013 panasonic, Samsung, or LG plasma TV with 3d that has not had the screen burn issue. If you have one of those tvs and have not had an issue, please comment what you are doing to prevent the long term image retention of the HUD. Thanks. EDIT- just read on the bungie weekly update that update 1.1.2 would be focusing on some things to make the game play better. Deej claims that if we have mentioned it on the forums, the user experience teams have it on the white board. Here is one of the things he mentioned they are working on "Audio and Visual – Not everyone wants to see or hear a game the same way, which is why we’re looking at providing more options." Very vague but gives a glimmer of hope. Until we know we have a fix, keep the thread going with your plasma TV experience and Destiny. Edit 3/20/15- the visual updates were colorblind options which probably has nothing to do with the Plasma TV destryoing HUD. I'm shocked and a little beside myself that they are not addressing this issue. Remember, last time commented that it was being looked into was Novemeber. 4 months ago. Trust me bungie, the problem has not gotten better with time. Only more and more TV's damaged by your lazy oversight even though the players told you about this during the BETa. It's obvious now that they don't care about plasma TV owners. 7/9- it's been 8 months since Deej said they knew of the issue and are discussing it. And still no update on a Fix. At this point I demand a response. I payed a total of $94.00 for the game and dlc. If I would have known of what the game does to TV screens, I would have never purchased the game. Simple as that. So either fix the game or give my money back or don't be surprised if a class action lawsuit shows up at your door. 9/15-Taken King has arrived and along with patch 2.0, Bungie still has not fixed the HUD transparency leaving 10's of thousands of plasma TV owners with no reason to support their game. We are almost a year since the last time a Bungie rep mentioned that they were aware of the issue and discussing a fix. Somehow all this innovation happens but a simple transparency patch for the HUD cant be done. Seems nuts that this is that hard. Since Bungie refuses to acknowledge 10's of thousands of people who are having the same problem, I will use the one voice I have left and not purchase "the taken King" until they provide a fix. I encourage all of you to do the same. Maybe they'll realize by looking at their ROI that there really is enough plasma owners to warrant a little developer time to fix this issue that the game has had since BETA. My tv is worth more then their game and their are plenty of games out there that don't damage my plasma screen. 9/15- here is a description of the problem affecting plasma tvs. Hopefully haters will understand that this is not entirely a plasma problem but a gross mistake in engineering a game for the masses: Non opaque or transparent HUD is what plasma owners need. That means you can see through the HUD. Here's the problem in a nutshell. Everyone knows Destiny is a pretty dark game. The worst thing for a plasma TV is static bright Colors. White being the worse, yellow probably next. If it was a fine white or yellow line that was static, plasmas anti-image retention system would probably protect the tv because the pixels would shift from time to time, preventing overuse. But in destiny, the HUD,the images of your guns, the ammo count even though it moves, the yellow "special" charge bar are so large, non detailed, and bright on the dark screen that literally you are aging those pixels much earlier then the rest of your screen. Remember, the white and yellow areas of the HUD are not transparent, they don't move enough, and they are too large for pixel shift to make a difference. So when you watch other content, what you see is a darker areas, on your screen that happen to be in the shape of any of the bright white or yellow elements. You can't see the damage the HUD is doing playing destiny because the HUD never moves and is the brightest thing in the game. It's other content, especially off white backgrounds like the Ice when watching a hockey game where the damage really shows. This damage is not the same kind of image retention where you watch something, it leaves a ghost image of a TV logo, and it will go away when watching different content. What this is is premature aging of the pixels that make up the HUD that will only go away when the rest of the TV ages as much as the areas that support the HUD. Which means it takes a lot of time watching varied content and especially no playing of destiny for the entire screen to even out. It took my tv 3 months to even out the picture. And I did a lot of running of bluray movies overnight, Disney wow disc, and other things. The screen wipe will not fix this problem because the wipe uses white and you don't want the damaged pixels to have to show any white if you can. Hope this helps.

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  • 2011 panasonic Viera, screen burns removed via scrolling bar feature.

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  • I have a LG plasma it does burn in but after a few hours on another game or movie it goes away also I let the tv shut itself off to help with the LG color wash thing I don't know how it works but it helps

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  • I play daily on a Fujitsu 58 series 42" Plasma panel. No image burn here.

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    • Try this. It has worked for me in the past: "If you already have a burned screen, you can try turning on white static for 12 to 24 hours. The constant moving of white-and-black across your screen in random patterns can help remove the ghost image from your screen. Unfortunately, this won’t work for extreme cases. Some TVs will have a built-in pattern swiping option that basically accomplishes the same thing (by filling your screen with random patterns)."

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    • I have a 4 year old Panasonic 50' plasma, I've played just about every major release since then with zero burn. Specifically over 800 hours on BF3&4 and more recently Destiny, this is our main TV and we've had no issues what so ever.

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      • Edited by jedib0p: 3/10/2015 3:00:51 PM
        I've damaged my 64" Samsung F8500. I have 400 hours played on Destiny over a period of 4+ months. The display was properly broken in and has over 2400 hours on it now (over 1000 hours on it before Destiny was even played) The super bar, weapon outline, primary ammo count, hard vertical line at the right edge of the HUD, and the health bar + death icon are all burned in to the display. I have quit playing and will not play again until HUD opacity options are added. To attempt to fix the issue I've been running the Disney WOW disc pixel flipper. The burn-in has faded slightly but doesn't appear to be getting any better. The damage is noticeable on light backgrounds but typically not during normal TV/movie viewing.

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        • Very definitely! I've ruined my £3k tv. I've had to reduce the amount of time I play destiny to prevent further damage.

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          • I play on a plasma. Have noticed some burn in of the super meter area. I used to do patrols for hours grinding and now only do as minimal as possible for bounties and pop my super as soon as available rather or not there are enemies around. Play on much darker settings than I would like. You say they've said nothing since Nov. I didn't know they had ever addressed this, what was their comment then?

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            • I find it amazing how little people actually know about tv's compared to the amount of trash talk they dish out. Refresh rate is one of the most important things to consider when buying a gaming tv. Plasmas have the highest. Which means less blur when moving your characters... And I have a 60"LG with zero burn at the moment. But it does have a few settings to help resist burn in.

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              • 4k. Don't do it

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                • It's your fault for buying a plasma TV LED Ftw

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                • I still use a projector tv

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                • Get a better tv. Plasma sucks, especially for gaming.

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                  • Been playing on same plasma for about five years now, so many images burned, not too bothered anymore as it will get replaced in the next couple few years.

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                  • The burn out is unique signature of plasma, that's why most people go for LCD.

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                  • Played on a 50" plasma, but it aas several years old and the super meter did not burn in even after playing for several hours at a time. Unfortunately plasma screens are not 3yo proof and he got it with a ball.... Now im on a 40" led...

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                  • I thought plasma TVs died out years ago

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                  • Nah my 42" Samsung plasma is still fine

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                    • Old old old old news. Halo did it, cod does it. Every game with a HUD can cause this. Your problem is brightness or contrast is to high and you play to much. Not calling you a no life cause my old jvc has the image of vsat burned from bo2 and I have had 2 TVs that said Netflix in the corner. This is not the games fault but it's the players fault. I would suggest getting a monitor or led tv. Give it a break sometimes.

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                      • You don't have a orbiter option ? I have a newer high end lg and only had temp retention when playing 6 hours +

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                        • Thats one of the last Panasonic plasmas! Completely shocked that its appearing on any modern plasma ( I know that its slowly frying my 12 year old LCD but its coming to the end of it life) Q: is your "pixel" orbiter mode switched on and your brightness / contrast lower than 50%? Would you not try calibrating the screen - I vaguely remember there being some sort of pattern tool in the service menu. >Sol

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                          • I have a plasma. Haven't noticed any burn at all. However, I haven't really looked for it. I do have the retention setup with pixel orbiter though...

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                            • Edited by toffee: 3/3/2015 12:05:03 AM
                              Here's a solution: [spoiler]Get a -blam!-ing new TV, you can afford games consoles and games but not a new tv?[/spoiler]

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                              • Yeah I'm pissed that I can't play destiny on my tv from 1982. Get rid of your obsolete tv and join us in 2015.

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                                • Stopped reading at "plasma tv". Truth is, plasma tvs were only created for those who couldn't afford a good quality TV. Didn't even know people still has plasmas as those are crappy tvs.

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                                  • I play on a magnavox plasma. Haven't noticed anything since launch either

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