Hey guys, thought it was my duty for people that did not know or were having these issues with their plasma that Bungie did address the static hud issue with the April 16 update. You need to go into settings, go to right side last option "accessibility". On top right you will see HUD opacity. Choose low to be super safe. I have been playing since then on my VT60 and it has solved my problems. I can't give kudos to bungie since they knew about this back in the beta and did nothing before release. Plus I had to stay away from a game I loved for almost a year and a half. But bungie did make things right and the game never leaves my tray. So thank you Bungie.
Since Bungie has stayed silent on the matter of patching the HUD since NOV., I thought it
Might help them to understand how
Many people play on a plasma TV. So if you play Destiny on a Plasma, reply to this thread. Also note if you have stopped playing due to the image retention damage that the HUD causes on a plasma.
I play on a panny vt60. I have discontinued playing in early Jan. Due to the screen burn that the HUD caused. Will not play until a transparency and brightness patch is issued for the HUD as well as the option to remove the HUD. Thanks
As an update, I don't want to use this thread as a debate of the best tv's for gaming. I get it, lcds for gaming are better. That's your opinion. Let's stick to the topic which is to compile how many people play destiny on plasma tvs and which of those people have had burn issues. And if you have had your lcd burned by the HUD, please let us all know because I have read that it's a problem there in extreme circumstances.
2nd update. I appreciate all of your feedback. It's truly helped in zeroing in on a trend of the size and type of plasma sets that have been affected. Please keep this thread going as it can only help all of us affected by learning of how many people out here have the same exact predicament.
I do not believe I have read one person with a 2011-2013 panasonic, Samsung, or LG plasma TV with 3d that has not had the screen burn issue. If you have one of those tvs and have not had an issue, please comment what you are doing to prevent the long term image retention of the HUD. Thanks.
EDIT- just read on the bungie weekly update that update 1.1.2 would be focusing on some things to make the game play better. Deej claims that if we have mentioned it on the forums, the user experience teams have it on the white board. Here is one of the things he mentioned they are working on
"Audio and Visual – Not everyone wants to see or hear a game the same way, which is why we’re looking at providing more options."
Very vague but gives a glimmer of hope. Until we know we have a fix, keep the thread going with your plasma TV experience and Destiny.
Edit 3/20/15- the visual updates were colorblind options which probably has nothing to do with the Plasma TV destryoing HUD. I'm shocked and a little beside myself that they are not addressing this issue. Remember, last time commented that it was being looked into was Novemeber. 4 months ago. Trust me bungie, the problem has not gotten better with time. Only more and more TV's damaged by your lazy oversight even though the players told you about this during the BETa. It's obvious now that they don't care about plasma TV owners.
7/9- it's been 8 months since Deej said they knew of the issue and are discussing it. And still no update on a Fix. At this point I demand a response. I payed a total of $94.00 for the game and dlc. If I would have known of what the game does to TV screens, I would have never purchased the game. Simple as that. So either fix the game or give my money back or don't be surprised if a class action lawsuit shows up at your door.
9/15-Taken King has arrived and along with patch 2.0, Bungie still has not fixed the HUD transparency leaving 10's of thousands of plasma TV owners with no reason to support their game. We are almost a year since the last time a Bungie rep mentioned that they were aware of the issue and discussing a fix. Somehow all this innovation happens but a simple transparency patch for the HUD cant be done. Seems nuts that this is that hard. Since Bungie refuses to acknowledge 10's of thousands of people who are having the same problem, I will use the one voice I have left and not purchase "the taken King" until they provide a fix. I encourage all of you to do the same. Maybe they'll realize by looking at their ROI that there really is enough plasma owners to warrant a little developer time to fix this issue that the game has had since BETA. My tv is worth more then their game and their are plenty of games out there that don't damage my plasma screen.
9/15- here is a description of the problem affecting plasma tvs. Hopefully haters will understand that this is not entirely a plasma problem but a gross mistake in engineering a game for the masses:
Non opaque or transparent HUD is what plasma owners need. That means you can see through the HUD. Here's the problem in a nutshell. Everyone knows Destiny is a pretty dark game. The worst thing for a plasma TV is static bright Colors. White being the worse, yellow probably next. If it was a fine white or yellow line that was static, plasmas anti-image retention system would probably protect the tv because the pixels would shift from time to time, preventing overuse. But in destiny, the HUD,the images of your guns, the ammo count even though it moves, the yellow "special" charge bar are so large, non detailed, and bright on the dark screen that literally you are aging those pixels much earlier then the rest of your screen. Remember, the white and yellow areas of the HUD are not transparent, they don't move enough, and they are too large for pixel shift to make a difference. So when you watch other content, what you see is a darker areas, on your screen that happen to be in the shape of any of the bright white or yellow elements. You can't see the damage the HUD is doing playing destiny because the HUD never moves and is the brightest thing in the game. It's other content, especially off white backgrounds like the Ice when watching a hockey game where the damage really shows. This damage is not the same kind of image retention where you watch something, it leaves a ghost image of a TV logo, and it will go away when watching different content. What this is is premature aging of the pixels that make up the HUD that will only go away when the rest of the TV ages as much as the areas that support the HUD. Which means it takes a lot of time watching varied content and especially no playing of destiny for the entire screen to even out. It took my tv 3 months to even out the picture. And I did a lot of running of bluray movies overnight, Disney wow disc, and other things. The screen wipe will not fix this problem because the wipe uses white and you don't want the damaged pixels to have to show any white if you can. Hope this helps.
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I play on the other version
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Edited by EcKo_ThUnDeR: 2/24/2015 2:10:12 AMJust change your screen boundries every couple times you play. Example: 6 inches from edge, 4 inches from edge, 2 inches from edge, on the edge, 1 inches from edge, 3 inches from edge, 5 inches from edge, repeat! This should prevent burning. Boom!
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Edited by H264: 2/27/2015 4:40:32 PMI have a Panasonic plasma. Burn-in is easy to avoid with some pre-cautions. Unless you take these steps, there will be burn-in with almost any game, as well as Xbox (and Sony) home screens. Only some games allow adjusting screen bounds though, but Destiny does. 1) adjust game's screen bounds once in a while - every couple of hours or so. This will move the HUD elements. It does not matter if the adjusted bounds do not match your TV. 2) enable your TV's pixel orbiter function 3) run the TV's screen wipe overnight after long gaming sessions.
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You realize this is a risk in any game that utilizes any type of HUD whatsoever right? You might want to just stop gaming.
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Plasma = Movies High End LED's are for Gaming.
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Play on 720p
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Any game, pretty much ever created will have this issue. You silly bear.
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I use a plasma with a high refresh rate my burn in lasts a hour or so and its gone
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I uses to play on a Panasonic ZT60 until I burned the HUD in sometime on Dec. After countless hours of white bar and tv watching I can still notice it but it's started to fade away. I ended up buying a cheap Vizio for gaming, but this is crazy. I have never once had an issue with IR or Burn on a plasma until destiny. It comes down to lazy coding really.
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Bleach the screen . Dont play games on a plasma if you cant bleach the screen ......
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Edited by Dar Katan: 2/24/2015 5:32:46 AMI play on a plasma all the time. Most plasmas have great natural contrast and brightness. Biggest problem a lot of people have is having those two settings too high. My settings (in a bright room) Contrast is 27/100 Brightness is 52/100 Saturation 50/100 Sharpness 0/100 No burn in with these settings.
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I do. No burn in on mine (since beta). Must be the settings. I've even burned through a Xbone controller because of destiny (not realizing I don't have to keep pressing the left joystick after my character started sprinting).
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Maybe break up your marathon gaming sessions, flip the channel for five minutes and go get a drink.
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Mines burned hardcore from logging over 600 hours so i just needa buy a new tv
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I have the brightness cranked up, because Dinklebot only works as a flashlight when [b][i]he[/i][/b] wants to, but I haven't had any long-term issues yet. I'll run a wipe occasionally but that's because I've been aware of this issue for a while and look for the telltale signs at every black screen.
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Buy a different TV Like an LCD And you will see Just believe me
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Plasma? Like the hot stuff?
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I've played many more hours than you most likely. I have over 20 days of game play. All on a plasma. No burn. And plasmas unless they are super old don't have burn-in anymore. Haha. A Panasonic has a white bar that wipes across the screen in settings that can fix what you see as burn.
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You bought a plasma.... You knew the faults, then bought one anyway.... Your problem not bungies
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Edited by Kage Goomba: 2/24/2015 2:12:50 AMPeople still use plasma tv's? O.o; Dude...join the modern age and go LED for crying out loud. Even LCD is at least worth it.
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Plasma is pretty old. They don't really make them any more. Plasma is being fazed out. Buy an LCD or a Monitor.
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My brother has been playing on a plasma since launch with no issues.
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Dear all plasma TV owners, they were not made for gaming. Buy a LED.
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Haven't hooked the game up to my 8500 yet and probably won't but I'm Sorry to hear about the problem. Hope bungie listens and makes the change. Don't listen to these scrubs...your TV cost triple what theirs does anyway.
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Edited by XxKLASSHxX: 2/23/2015 10:05:24 PMPlasma tv's in general have always had image burn issues.