I don't like them. I have bad juju and that gun has hardly ever seen any action. Weapons w/ no impact just suck. I don't like ARs with HRF and crap impact either. I would love to give up some rate of fire on juju in return for more impact. Hand cannons are the way to go! Sure suros, shadow price or voc are fun to throw in the mix but it's red hand ix all day for me!