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2/1/2008 12:33:02 AM
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Administering Trust
The trust system has remained a bit of a mystery (as I'm sure it will stay one for good reasons) to many if not all of us normal users. One thing I would like to know is how trust is administered. Is it purely automated or do the ninjas and such have a "good boy" button that gives out trust? Or a mixture of the two, or maybe something entirely different?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x n0vakan3 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elit3 R3ap3r 257 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SS_Zag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elit3 R3ap3r 257 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] H Town Clown Erm... You are Mythic Zag. As long as you've been around, you should be a grizzled ancient.[/quote] It's bugged, you know that, right? ;D [I]/ER257\[/I][/quote] Achronos himself admitted to the mistake. :\[/quote] Ban him. Nao. [i]/ER257\[/I][/quote] Don't Grizzled Ancients [i] work [/i] for Bungie?[/quote] In Soviet Bungie.net, Grizzled Ancients work for you. [i]/ER257\[/I] [Edited on 05.08.2008 7:12 AM PDT]
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ok then...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elit3 R3ap3r 257 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SS_Zag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elit3 R3ap3r 257 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] H Town Clown Erm... You are Mythic Zag. As long as you've been around, you should be a grizzled ancient.[/quote] It's bugged, you know that, right? ;D [I]/ER257\[/I][/quote] Achronos himself admitted to the mistake. :\[/quote] Ban him. Nao. [i]/ER257\[/I][/quote] Don't Grizzled Ancients [i] work [/i] for Bungie?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SS_Zag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elit3 R3ap3r 257 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] H Town Clown Erm... You are Mythic Zag. As long as you've been around, you should be a grizzled ancient.[/quote] It's bugged, you know that, right? ;D [I]/ER257\[/I][/quote] Achronos himself admitted to the mistake. :\[/quote] Ban him. Nao. [i]/ER257\[/I]
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"Please don't insult me?" There is no insult in any post I have ever written. Cheers! Have a good one. BUCKLERockstaR
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BUCKLERockstaR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos However, they have been shown to be VERY accurate predictors of behavior... remarkably so.[/quote]Predictors is the key word. I personally think the system still needs to be refined. I was banned because my brother was banned and we share a computer giving me a lovekly message from the soul about Alt accounts, this was back at the end of Jan. Because of this short ban I lost my Heroic Member status without having done anything wrong, the ban was reduced to one day by Recon Number 54 and yet that one day ban has kept the title stripped for just over a month. I got the title on New Years Day (before it became easier to have a member title), lost it less than a month later, how can a small ban have so much influence and not be made up with continuous good behavior a month later especially when it has become easier to become a Heroic, Legendary and mythic member (which went from 13 people to 200!)?[/quote] You are your brother's keeper. Seriously. Literally. Tons of people have the it was my little brother story. I am sure that you have heard it before many times. All the more reason that, even if it was your little brother, and you had no knowledge of his account, you should make sure that he does not do anything to get banned. Take it as an opertunity to take responsibility of your surroundings. There may be no legal basis for you to be punished if your brother committed a crime but there is a basis for you to be banned here 1) Your little brother may not exist (it could be you) 2) You may have participated in the wrong doings of your little brother 3) Your little brother lives in an environment where where it was ok to violate rules. Either you live in the same environment or you created this environment if you are the little brothers guardian Explain to your little brother how wrong it was and how much you have to go through because of his actions. The title change only shows that you were not 100% responsible in your computers environment. It is just a title and an acruate one in my opinion. BUCKLERockstaR [/quote]I'm over it now. My brother does exist, we share a computer, he got banned then the soul banned me and sent me a message about an alt account. Please don't insult me, his account is L3W15 7, he has a GT linked, tell me why I would pay for a gold account with the name Lewis when my name is Tom? That was rhetorical, please don't further the argument. I speak the Tru7h.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Guardian Hunter I don't know I mean I apparently just became a mythic member today. I've been here 3+ years and been active the entire time. [/quote] Yet I never saw you post before. I should spend more time in the Community forum... [i]/ER257\[/I]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BUCKLERockstaR You are your brother's keeper. Seriously. Literally. Tons of people have the it was my little brother story. I am sure that you have heard it before many times. All the more reason that, even if it was your little brother, and you had no knowledge of his account, you should make sure that he does not do anything to get banned. Take it as an opertunity to take responsibility of your surroundings. There may be no legal basis for you to be punished if your brother committed a crime but there is a basis for you to be banned here 1) Your little brother may not exist (it could be you) 2) You may have participated in the wrong doings of your little brother 3) Your little brother lives in an environment where where it was ok to violate rules. Either you live in the same environment or you created this environment if you are the little brothers guardian Explain to your little brother how wrong it was and how much you have to go through because of his actions. The title change only shows that you were not 100% responsible in your computers environment. It is just a title and an acruate one in my opinion. BUCKLERockstaR [/quote] Basically, keep your brother in check.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos However, they have been shown to be VERY accurate predictors of behavior... remarkably so.[/quote]Predictors is the key word. I personally think the system still needs to be refined. I was banned because my brother was banned and we share a computer giving me a lovekly message from the soul about Alt accounts, this was back at the end of Jan. Because of this short ban I lost my Heroic Member status without having done anything wrong, the ban was reduced to one day by Recon Number 54 and yet that one day ban has kept the title stripped for just over a month. I got the title on New Years Day (before it became easier to have a member title), lost it less than a month later, how can a small ban have so much influence and not be made up with continuous good behavior a month later especially when it has become easier to become a Heroic, Legendary and mythic member (which went from 13 people to 200!)?[/quote] You are your brother's keeper. Seriously. Literally. Tons of people have the it was my little brother story. I am sure that you have heard it before many times. All the more reason that, even if it was your little brother, and you had no knowledge of his account, you should make sure that he does not do anything to get banned. Take it as an opertunity to take responsibility of your surroundings. There may be no legal basis for you to be punished if your brother committed a crime but there is a basis for you to be banned here 1) Your little brother may not exist (it could be you) 2) You may have participated in the wrong doings of your little brother 3) Your little brother lives in an environment where where it was ok to violate rules. Either you live in the same environment or you created this environment if you are the little brothers guardian Explain to your little brother how wrong it was and how much you have to go through because of his actions. The title change only shows that you were not 100% responsible in your computers environment. It is just a title and an acruate one in my opinion. BUCKLERockstaR [Edited on 05.07.2008 12:37 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elit3 R3ap3r 257 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] H Town Clown Erm... You are Mythic Zag. As long as you've been around, you should be a grizzled ancient.[/quote] It's bugged, you know that, right? ;D [I]/ER257\[/I][/quote] Achronos himself admitted to the mistake. :\
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Trust is a very funny thing. People want to know how to get it, but in the end it just makes the people you're trying to have trust you more paranoid and distrustful of you. This is how I see it for real life trust, and the Bungie forum trust system. [Edited on 05.07.2008 12:07 PM PDT]
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I don't know I mean I apparently just became a mythic member today. I've been here 3+ years and been active the entire time. [Edited on 05.07.2008 12:05 PM PDT]
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I love it when people say that time on the website plays the biggest role in the trust. When it really doesn't. Although it plays a small part on your trust rating, I believe the biggest factor, is quality/quantity of posts, and lack their of warnings/bans. I've seen plenty of members from '03 or '04 that are regular members and '05/'06 that are heroic or higher. Time on this website only plays a small part.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] H Town Clown Erm... You are Mythic Zag. As long as you've been around, you should be a grizzled ancient.[/quote] It's bugged, you know that, right? ;D [I]/ER257\[/I]
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Erm... You are Mythic Zag. As long as you've been around, you should be a grizzled ancient.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nauxone thanks dude you rock all bow before acronose[/quote] *Injects Acro-nose* Ah, that felt [i]goooood[/i]. I get my trust administered from my doctor, try it sometime. [i]/ER257\[/I]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L3W15 7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L3W15 7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SatansReverence [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos However, they have been shown to be VERY accurate predictors of behavior... remarkably so.[/quote]Predictors is the key word. I personally think the system still needs to be refined. I was banned because my brother was banned and we share a computer giving me a lovekly message from the soul about Alt accounts, this was back at the end of Jan. Because of this short ban I lost my Heroic Member status without having done anything wrong, the ban was reduced to one day by Recon Number 54 and yet that one day ban has kept the title stripped for just over a month. I got the title on New Years Day (before it became easier to have a member title), lost it less than a month later, how can a small ban have so much influence and not be made up with continuous good behavior a month later especially when it has become easier to become a Heroic, Legendary and mythic member (which went from 13 people to 200!)?[/quote] "But my brother did it!" is just an excuse. You should be happy Recon actually lowered your ban. As for going back to Heroic then going back to member early feb was due to a glitch where a couple of numbers were misplaced (It was in a thread awhile back) and gave practically everyone a role boost, it was fixed 1-2 weeks ago.[/quote]You sir are an idiot. Read my post, I had the the title was before the feb glitches. It is not an excuse, his account is L3W15 7. He has his own gamertag, why would I call myself Lewis in one account and Tom on the other. Please don't judge me. Yes I am using my brothers account, he left it logged on teh hee hee.[/quote] I have just noticed this and it has angred me significantly. Why have you used my profile?[/quote]HA! I never realised you were logged on, you must have put your account to log in automatically and then I noticed after the post had been submitted. Ah well, you bumped an ancient thread when you could have just PM-ed me, shame on you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L3W15 7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SatansReverence [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos However, they have been shown to be VERY accurate predictors of behavior... remarkably so.[/quote]Predictors is the key word. I personally think the system still needs to be refined. I was banned because my brother was banned and we share a computer giving me a lovekly message from the soul about Alt accounts, this was back at the end of Jan. Because of this short ban I lost my Heroic Member status without having done anything wrong, the ban was reduced to one day by Recon Number 54 and yet that one day ban has kept the title stripped for just over a month. I got the title on New Years Day (before it became easier to have a member title), lost it less than a month later, how can a small ban have so much influence and not be made up with continuous good behavior a month later especially when it has become easier to become a Heroic, Legendary and mythic member (which went from 13 people to 200!)?[/quote] "But my brother did it!" is just an excuse. You should be happy Recon actually lowered your ban. As for going back to Heroic then going back to member early feb was due to a glitch where a couple of numbers were misplaced (It was in a thread awhile back) and gave practically everyone a role boost, it was fixed 1-2 weeks ago.[/quote]You sir are an idiot. Read my post, I had the the title was before the feb glitches. It is not an excuse, his account is L3W15 7. He has his own gamertag, why would I call myself Lewis in one account and Tom on the other. Please don't judge me. Yes I am using my brothers account, he left it logged on teh hee hee.[/quote] I have just noticed this and it has angred me significantly. Why have you used my profile?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Equus Asinus Can I buy trust?[/quote] If Microsoft gave it out you could.[/quote] I'd like to live in a house, not a card board box sipping kool-aid out of a paper bag.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Equus Asinus Can I buy trust?[/quote] If Microsoft gave it out you could.
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Can I buy trust?
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thanks dude you rock all bow before acronose
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they probably flip a 3 sided coin....
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SgtSTFU ... and Halifax is a nub :p[/quote] Jealousy is a common trait amongst those of the lower class.
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Oh, all right. Time to do good deeds.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Adelie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SgtSTFU [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Adelie I am suddenly a normal member again, after being a Heroic member for a few months. How does that work? I have receved no blacklisting or warnings (that I have been told about) and I don't think I have spammed or anything. What makes you change in a negetive way?[/quote] I have been demoted as well, to a Legendary member. Maybe the system was adjusted and we don't fit the criteria anymore? :/[/quote] I suppose. But now I am sad.[/quote] I pm'ed Achronos and here is what he had to say: [quote]It is because the thresholds for ratings change daily based on the maximum possible trust one could have (which also changes daily). If you're right on the edge, it is possible that you'll flip flop occassionally.[/quote] This has happened to me before and it could very well be the case again. I'll just wait and see. No biggie... ... and Halifax is a nub :p
