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6/14/2007 1:27:46 AM
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Post-mortem: The Halo 3 Public Beta
Designers Tyson Green and Lars Bakken are joined by Producer and famous griefer Joe Tung, to reflect on the Beta that was.
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I couldnt find any other news to put this under, but it is beta related, so i guess ill put it here. In the redesign of the bungie store, there is a H3 BETA tester tee that looks amazing, but it isnt in the store. I was just wondering if this would be available or if it is just for show. Back to the beta, anyway, it was the best few weeks of summer ive had in a long time, i agree that the drop back to halo 2 MM was harsh, and the maps/weapons were awesome. (only thing i didnt like was snowbound, but it was pretty fun still).
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Hey, this is probably an isolated incident, but I just got a replacement xbox after having my old one die near the end of the beta.. so when I got it back today and plugged in my hard drive, the beta was still there. I tried to play it as a lark, and it didn't work, of course. I wasn't expecting it to. BUT, then, when I tried to delete it, it wouldn't! It tells me there's an 'error while performing this action'. As much as I like Halo, a useless beta is kinda annoying and I want to delete it. Anyone have any ideas as to why I can't get rid of it?
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Great to see they are thinking about fixing the hog. Now if only they would power up the Plasma Pistols normal shot to make up for the weaker homing, and remove the bullet lag.
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Now that things have settled down I'll post my feedback. What I did not like is a short list. I did not like having to hit Dpad to talk. Elsewhere somebody suggested using Dpad for grenade selection and LB for talk. That was a very good idea IMO. Really hated the sound made when initiating talk and when VOX deactivates. Ouch! Internet play is still subject to network manipulation, mostly throttling or some sort. Can't really see any fix for that short of embedding sync time code in each data packet like is done with Irig or some other bus-sync tech. While HighGround was a pretty cool map, in TS games he who controls the beach controls the game. Or at least I was never in a TS game where the winner did not have beach end control. Just something to think about. While I liked that the fusion pistol effect on mechanicals and electronics was brought back from its Marathon incarnations, I think it was a bit overdone. And if its fusion doing it, then why does not all fusion do it? (I know, I'm getting pendantic so I'll quit) What I like is a longer list, so I'll shorten it by saying this: Going back to Halo2 match making was so painful after the H3 beta I just don't do it. I did not find the warthog harder to kill, but then I was a Laser whore. I really liked that the snipers did NOT have the huge auto-aim. I was actually a better sniper without it. (must be all that GRAW and RS:V I play) The Spartan Laser is the coolest new weapon. Great job. However, there is no real reason it should freeze the player when it fires. (an effect I noticed) I really liked that there were no button combo's and combo glitches. I liked getting to specify connection as the priority in matchmaking. It kept me from getting owned by lag rather than just owned. Liked all the settings that can be tweaked for custom games. Randomness. Never used the SMG's or the plasma rifle beyond just trying them as they did not seem very effective compared to other weapons. I was killed way more by teammates placement of trip mines than enemies. Not sure how usable the banshee will be with the limited down angle. It got way more useful once I figured the FRC was back in it. Still, its not the ground support element of yore. The sound of the chain gun in the hog had no "directioness" when doing the far away sound. The first few times I head it I thought it was a problem with somebody's mic. Needs doppler and reverb. In a canyon like Valhalla, the sniper (human) needs reverb ala Freemont Street in RS:V. It would be cool (for a while). I'm sure thats enough. Thanks for the beta.
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just puttin this out there for bungie. valhalla has a hole in the map u can drop vehicles (banshee, ect.) then jump out of the map by going to waterfall base and standing on a persons head in between the rocks on the left side if you are looking at the water base from the laser. it is possible to go to space with the banshee. if this is fixed that wood be better for the game in a whole. HALO 3 ROCKS!! XD
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hey bungie, wut about all the custom games going on through all of this??? how you can change the gravity and speed percentage. why was none of this mentioned?....scared? jp. lol
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hay gys what time do u thing the reell game ov halo is coming out pepole say september
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haha very funny thats just weird becase bungie myt poot the beta up agen becas they have new maps
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i bet every little kid that liket halo3 2 and1 was crying because the beta is gon
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I Agree !!!! The nostalgia surrounding Halo is amazing and to be given the opportunity to participate in the beta was awesome. I give mad props to the, always humble, Bungie for their interaction and response to the fans who have made this game what it is today. No game is perfectly polished and 100% bug free, but we can be sure that the final release will be as close as a piece of software can be. Heres to my new favorite handheld weapon! Although it is no longer a dual wield weapon, the new and improved Needler packs a quck and powerful punch. For I am the shard master. Feel the pain.... wuhaaa haa haa haaa wuhaa haa haaa Bishop_Gatrer
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Was actually a good read.
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yo that was kinda random also for some haloey stuff go to www.whenspartansattackhalo.piczo.com its kinda cool
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H3 is teh ruined lol I also have to admit that I thought with equipment the game would become too unbalanced but I was wrong it was a nice suprise
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it isn't that territories is bad, it's just broken, after that, and the removal of slayer from skirmish, the only thing h3 needs is a map creator to be perfect (like that will ever happen)
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The beta is over bungie! Get over yourselves....
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Hey Monkey, I got your email right after I sent this. Thanks. To the Moderator: Don't mean to cause any problems, just wanted Bungie to see my comment since there's hundreds of comments on here. I wanted to know their thoughts on the day/night thing.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] someguy1229 When is Bungie going to release videos or even pictures from the Halo 3 campaign. I want to know what were going to be playing. TELL US BUNGIE WE MUST KNOW!!!!!!!!!! Pleeeeaaasssseeee ):[/quote] you can probably just go on and forget about that, they are not going to tell us anything about campaign, just have to wait until sept. 25th to find out , the wait will be SO... worth it .
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Bungie survived? It sounded like it was a month long blast of aerosol-hairspray flamethrower'ed rage blowing into everyones' faces... Nice job,[i] and thanks for nerfing the carbine.[/i]
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I also noticed a large percentage of people vetoing Territories or commenting loudly that everyone wasn't vetoing Territories. Personally, I could take it or leave it. It isn't my favorite game type but it is a good change of pace. I personally have a general dislike of objective games because too many people quit mid-game at the first sign of adversity (i.e. other team scoring first). I really disliked VIP on Valhalla a lot of the time. That one ledge near one of the bases (red? on left side facing out from base) where the VIP could jump up to was annoying. You could not get a shot with any weapon at a player crouched up there unless you went up to engage at point blank range, which with 4x shields for the VIP was generally a losing proposition. It created WAAAY too much camping. I much preferred the VIP having to continuously move and reposition themselves, or even go on the offensive, a la Snowbound.
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I agree. So many slayer matches is frankly embarrassing, because they're so low brow. Let's get some more objective games.
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Id rather play territories once in a while than slayer every 5 seconds. The beta had way too much slayer. Bungie please put in more objective games.
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If you own at territories then ur a fuxin NOOB!!!!!! Territories can suck my big juicy ballz and rot in HELL forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AFLACK Wow, so much hate on Territories... I think it's pretty damn fun![/quote]
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Wow, so much hate on Territories... I think it's pretty damn fun!
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Please don't change the warthog durability to suit the naysayers. Once people become GOOD at the game, the durability demonstrated in the Beta will be perfect. Indeed, as the Beta neared conclusion, I found it increasingly more difficult to wreak havok with it. People were learning to cope. If you react to the complaints, it may seem more balanced in the beginning, but as players become better and better, the warthog will become more and more useless. People need to keep in mind that the Warthog is an armored combat vehicle. It's durability is consistent with the concept. Of course destroying a warthog is going to be difficult for a single person, but this should not come as a surprise. It's called TEAM slayer for a reason. As to poor spawning, I think this could easily be fixed by giving players a very brief period of enhanced durability that lasts perhaps five seconds or until they've fired on or attacked someone. The problem with spawning is largely due to spawning in an open area near an enemy. A brief period of durability would allow them to take cover if need be. My last point is that I like the new needler, although I do agree that it is a little powerful. I don't think reducing damage or tracking is necessarily the answer. Perhaps reducing the reticule size, which is currently large, would help make this weapon a little more skill oriented. From what I've seen, the needles only track a target if the reticule was aimed at the target when they fired. A smaller reticule would make tracking the target a little more difficult but still worthwhile.
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When is Bungie going to release videos or even pictures from the Halo 3 campaign. I want to know what were going to be playing. TELL US BUNGIE WE MUST KNOW!!!!!!!!!! Pleeeeaaasssseeee ):
