[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheWindClaw Go play Black Ops II ... the next CoD is around the corner...[/quote] ^ this. Blops2 currently untouchable at #1. ([i]hell, more people play in it least-popular playlist than play in all of H4 and reach's playlists[/i]). COD currently hold 40% of the top ten titles. And as the OP said, another is due soon ... and it is a sure bet to fall straight into position #1 or 2. Suspect H4 will drop down to position 5 or 6 ... and reach off the bottom of the chart. Reach or Halo 4 ... both are going to drop.

Yes, the only thing 4 had on reach was the campaign. [Edited on 12.29.2012 1:08 PM PST]

Halo Reach over H4.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kira Onime H4 > lolVanillaReach I hear NBNS Reach is better than default H4 but I can't really say, never played it much. H4 needs better maps and quite a few fixes...... and less 6v6-8v8 maps... moar 4v4[/quote]8v8 is where it's at. Halo needs to make BTB maps exclusively and then just forge them a little bit for the rest of you guys. =D

I'll be honest with you, I like Halo 4 but Reach was more addicting. Plus I miss forge world.

Stealing this from Recon I think: 404 ERROR-POLL NOT FOUND!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnizoa I will admit that I favor Halo Reach (and perhaps Halo 2 if I'm feeling nostalgic).[/quote] Need have said no more #2. ([i]btw: for you next post try to think 'twitter' not 'war and peace'[/i])

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WoundedMr Krabs I enjoy reach far more than halo 4. Any version of TU reach is a lot funner to play.[/quote] "[i]a lot [/i][b]funner[/b][i] to play[/i]" ... say no more #1.

First Ever Post: The heavy divide in fans between Halo Reach and Halo 4 is predictable... but the reasons are still disturbing. I'd like to first state that I've beaten the campaign and extensively played the multiplayer of Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3 & ODST, Halo Reach, AND Halo 4 and that every single one of these games are ambitious and great fun in their own ways for their own reasons. Nonetheless, I will admit that I favor Halo Reach (and perhaps Halo 2 if I'm feeling nostalgic). I feel like my reasons are simple, but by contrast, the reasons I'm hearing for why Halo 4 is superior to Reach are ludicrously trivial and not conducive to actually having fun: [quote]"Halo 4 prevails because it's AR and shotgun are good"[/quote] [quote]"I enjoy Halo 4 more then Reach. I was never a big fan of bloom."[/quote] [quote]"Reach is worse. A few noobs think otherwise, but the mass number of online players kinda kill their view."[/quote] Really? A couple weapons function slightly more to your liking? It looks a little too bright? Everyone else is jumping off a cliff, so why don't you? Pff. What an idiot I was! And here I was judging both games on ALL their differences! Like the major balance changes of a different control scheme, removing damage de-scoping, and adding first-person killcams! The addition of a third variant of weapons, orbital drops, and customizable loadouts and perks! A brand new shift of focus in Slayer from kills to points in which victory is based on specifically how you performed in a match as opposed to the bodycount you racked up! And I haven't even touched on the significantly more complex differences in the campaign modes yet! You're telling me my judgment could be easily reduced to: "Not as much bloom as Reach = Better than Reach"? Phew! That's a lot off my mind! Why was I trying to be fair and even-handed to both titles when I could just throw up my hands and go "Shotguns are better! Argument over!" ...Oh yeah. Cause that would make me a jackass. Seriously people, where's the reasonable give and take? Why can't we say we like both? As far as I can tell, Halo: CE was, if nothing else, a landmark game. Halo 2 improved upon it in nearly every way. Halo 3 commanded some impressive new features at an occasional expense. And Halo Reach was the final risky refinement to the classic formula, though with it's own hits and misses, it successfully encapsulated the over-arching theme: to go out with a bang. Halo 4 is... different. There's a distinctly different driver behind the wheels and the whole game feels more like a caricature of the Halo series than an actual installment. Nonetheless it is still a very good game in it's own right, plainly made by the fans who played it. I will gladly concede to that much, but I'm sick of hearing about some comparatively miniscule detail of the game summarizing the entire reason why it's superior or inferior. I positively HATE the Halo 4 armor aesthetic because they look like a naked dummy just superglued tuperware containers to themselves and then spraypainted themselves in solid colors. All of the spartans look like they have vestigial wings for -blam!-'s sake! Even so, I'm not stupid enough to present that as THE REASON Reach is better than Halo 4. Exercise some fair judgment people. And while you're at it, remember: First and foremost, video games exist to provide entertainment. If you don't know this or want to accept this, you should not be playing Halo in the first place... let alone video games.

I enjoy reach far more than halo 4. Any version of TU reach is a lot funner to play. I'd rather play default reach over H4 because h4 gets super stale after 2 games. I haven't played it in over a month because of the lack of aiming skill gap, awful maps, AA made even more retarded (jetpack at least isnt as -blam!-). The only thing I like H4 over reach is the movement (much smoother). I'm not the only one who feels this way. H4 can be good but the s.hit piled on it makes it awful in its current state.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 Their* both absolutely horrendous but Halo 4 is miles worse than Reach imo. inb4butthurtfanboys[/quote] *They're.[/quote]LOOK OUT! GRAMMAR -blam!-. On topic: Technically Reach as it is now is good. Prior friggin' bloom and armor lock just killed everything. Bloom decreased, but I mostly play Reach for MLG gametype which has 0 bloom, and the maps are 4x better than H4, plus sniping, vehicles are overpowered. You can snipe twice as easy than prior games in Halo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheWindClaw Why is there so much attention given to population numbers? If that is the only factor a player considers, then why even bother with the lesser titles? Go play Black Ops II while you can, the next CoD is around the corner...[/quote] "[i]the next CoD is around the corner[/i]" ... true enough. The whole thread is a little pointless. You are correct, COD rules, reach is a distant afterthought ... pointless debate.

I enjoyed halo 4 for about 2-3 weeks with friends. But, I switched back to reach and the rest of the halos.

I cannot tolerate the amount of BS in Halo 4.

Why is there so much attention given to population numbers? If that is the only factor a player considers, then why even bother with the lesser titles? Go play Black Ops II while you can, the next CoD is around the corner...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Koolen I don't care about population numbers. Halo 4 is bad and Halo reach was good. [/quote] Just a shame the topic wasn't "[i]Does Koolen like Reach over Halo 4?[/i] Otherwise you could have been on a winer.[/quote]even if the thread was titled [i]Does Koolen like Reach over Halo 4?[/i], would have ended up locked

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Koolen I don't care about population numbers. Halo 4 is bad and Halo reach was good. [/quote] Just a shame the topic wasn't "[i]Does Koolen like Reach over Halo 4?[/i] Otherwise you could have been on a winer.

I don't care about population numbers. Halo 4 is bad and Halo reach was good.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ClearOrangeZero I figured it out, so y u no lol?[/quote] Ah grasshopper ... but it appear you have not figured it out. So no lol 4 u. Simple answer is that Halo 4 is like a stepping stone to Blops2. Look at the numbers. People are leaving reach to play/experiment with H4 ... and then a big proportion are jumping straight to Blops2. Even if you combined reach and H4 numbers they only just make to 30% (31.72%) mark of blops alone. [edit: [i]now if you had told us how you went in your essay exam we could[/i][b] ALL[/b][i] have got a lol[/i]] [Edited on 12.27.2012 4:20 AM PST]

The reach INGAME population counter has been stuck at 67k since h4 was released.. and as for the op, reach is by far better, but h4 has so much potential. It needs maps and a good TU.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ClearOrangeZero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Forever MS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf Trust you to take that out of context. I meant the in game counter.[/quote] Lol, do you know what "out of context" even means? Because he didn't take your post "out of context".[/quote]Perhaps you just missed the first two posts in this thread, the OP and Mythical Wolf's first post. After reading those, you should see how out of context GodLike took that post, the extent of which is otherwise indiscernible.[/quote] Oh no, its the "[url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76279528]kind of in essay writing mode atm[/url] ([i]and failing[/i]) boy again. Will spell it out slowly for you; - Original subject "[i]Do fans like Reach over Halo 4[/i]" - Wolfies claim "[i]The population counter is frozen but Halo 4 is worse than Reach[/i]" - I point to [url=http://majornelson.com/2012/12/13/live-activity-for-week-of-dec-3/]a working population counter[/url] which clearly shows more people play Halo 4. Now given that the OP questioned that he had "[i]a feeling people think Halo 4 died quickly[/i]" because "[i]the stats were shocking[/i]" ... wolf statement that the "[i]counter is frozen[/i]" may be true - but to then draw the conclusion that "Halo 4 is worse than Reach" is false, especially given that wolf already knows how to compare population counts via the Major Nelson site. Now back to your trolling attempt ... explain wich part you find '[i]indiscernible[/i]'?[/quote]Your effort is admirable, but fruitless. You know how the game works; You troll me, I figure it out, lols are had on both sides, and that's it. I figured it out, so y u no lol?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ClearOrangeZero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Forever MS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf Trust you to take that out of context. I meant the in game counter.[/quote] Lol, do you know what "out of context" even means? Because he didn't take your post "out of context".[/quote]Perhaps you just missed the first two posts in this thread, the OP and Mythical Wolf's first post. After reading those, you should see how out of context GodLike took that post, the extent of which is otherwise indiscernible.[/quote] Oh no, its the "[url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76279528]kind of in essay writing mode atm[/url] ([i]and failing[/i]) boy again. Will spell it out slowly for you; - Original subject "[i]Do fans like Reach over Halo 4[/i]" - Wolfies claim "[i]The population counter is frozen but Halo 4 is worse than Reach[/i]" - I point to [url=http://majornelson.com/2012/12/13/live-activity-for-week-of-dec-3/]a working population counter[/url] which clearly shows more people play Halo 4. Now given that the OP questioned that he had "[i]a feeling people think Halo 4 died quickly[/i]" because "[i]the stats were shocking[/i]" ... wolf statement that the "[i]counter is frozen[/i]" may be true - but to then draw the conclusion that "Halo 4 is worse than Reach" is false, especially given that wolf already knows how to compare population counts via the Major Nelson site. Now back to your trolling attempt ... explain wich part you find '[i]indiscernible[/i]'?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Forever MS [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [/quote] Trust you to take that out of context. I meant the in game counter.[/quote] Lol, do you know what "out of context" even means? Because he didn't take your post "out of context".[/quote]Perhaps you just missed the first two posts in this thread, the OP and Mythical Wolf's first post. After reading those, you should see how out of context GodLike took that post, the extent of which is otherwise indiscernible.

For ME, Reach is more forgiving and enjoyable than Halo 4.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [/quote] Trust you to take that out of context. I meant the in game counter.[/quote] Lol, do you know what "out of context" even means? Because he didn't take your post "out of context".

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf Trust you to take that out of context. I meant the in game counter.[/quote] "[i]out of context[/i]" ... nope. You attempted to align the '[i]counter being frozen[/i]' with some ideal that this means reach is doing better. ([i]ie we cant tell because bungies crap code and QA resulted in a broken counter ... and without real number we [/i][b]MUST[/b][i] assume reach is doing better[/i]). But rather than relying on a broken set of bungie supplied in game counters I suggested we look at some public statistics which do work. Easy to see that Halo 4 is liked more by fans.