[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODSTFADE Master Chief would win.[/quote] I second this

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RKOSNAKE He noted that if anybody could be a lone wolf, it was her as she didn't need any support.[/quote] Yeah... Chief said it himself that of the S2's, Linda was the lone wolf. She worked just as well, if not better alone then in a typical team.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Timmie Spartan Vs??? I think you're getting your MJOLNIR armor marks mixed with the Spartan numbers.[/quote] i think he means spartan IVs from halo 4

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x box dude 93 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gen Petitt [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DE4THINC4RN4TE Master Chief was better than ALL the spartan II's. A regular spartan II would mess a IV up. You do the math.[/quote] Not all the way true Linda 058 was a better at the sniper rifle than cheif and the cheif is a rank not a name it is the Highest NCO rank but back to what I was saying it is all how you view it there in no "Best SPARTAN"[/quote] Master Chief was considered pretty average, actually. He had no 1st place traits that set him apart, other than his "luck" which I still find to be confusing.[/quote] I thought Chief's 1st place trait was leadership ability. anyway, doesnt Chief himself say Linda is the "strongest" spartan because she was the most capable on her own or something?[/quote] He noted that if anybody could be a lone wolf, it was her as she didn't need any support.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gen Petitt [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DE4THINC4RN4TE Master Chief was better than ALL the spartan II's. A regular spartan II would mess a IV up. You do the math.[/quote] Not all the way true Linda 058 was a better at the sniper rifle than cheif and the cheif is a rank not a name it is the Highest NCO rank but back to what I was saying it is all how you view it there in no "Best SPARTAN"[/quote] Master Chief was considered pretty average, actually. He had no 1st place traits that set him apart, other than his "luck" which I still find to be confusing.[/quote] I thought Chief's 1st place trait was leadership ability. anyway, doesnt Chief himself say Linda is the "strongest" spartan because she was the most capable on her own or something?

Master Chief destroys all.

Spartan IV's probably have better equipment, otherwise the UNSC?ONI R&D is completely inept if they can't improve their Spartan's equipment every few years.

Don't know about you guys but if you betray the USNC in Halo 3 you will get murdered on Legendary.

no.

Luck (MC wins)

Well the Spartan V would put up a fight. But then again Master Chief killed the flood, Halo and the covenant. Sooooo Master Chief wins.

I don't think it's been mention enough about the operational capabilities of Spartan IVs, other than the fact that they are superhuman.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] im the next halo The S-IV's are just regular soldiers that went through rigorous training and suited up in armor that they can work with without augmentations. Not only has the S-II program done even more to make a better soldier, but MC has gone through many battles than the IV's, in addition to MC's luck. MC has this. [/quote]Spartan IVs are actually given augments. How powerful these augments are nobody is 100% sure about.

You need to fact check a little sir.

Master chief due to the difference in the processes of training a spartan IV and II. Not to mention the amount of experience Chief has.

The S-IV's are just regular soldiers that went through rigorous training and suited up in armor that they can work with without augmentations. Not only has the S-II program done even more to make a better soldier, but MC has gone through many battles than the IV's, in addition to MC's luck. MC has this.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] greatestSheriff We don't even know what type of armor S-IVs wear. [/quote]Lightweight MJOLNIR Mark VII. It's "GEN 2" as well according to 343i's website. Not sure what they mean by that, but to sum it up: GEN 2 Lightweight MJOLNIR Mark VII armour.[/quote] Dummo where I've said this, but since MJOLNIR is power armor, lightweight doesn't matter. The armor supports it's own weight. Lightweight makes me think "Lesser" or "weaker" armor. Like MJOLNIR Mark VI. and 'lightweight MJOLNIR GEN2'. Makes me think of the two options, Mark VI is the better choice.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Flaming glacier I wouldn't say as effective. Jorge WAS a II. Six was the most skilled of them, and was as good as. The rest kind of faltered in comparison. Still though, I maintain that even if they could work as well as II's, they were still special cases, the best of the best, and they were in Spartan II armour. And even so, being as good as any Spartan II doesn't make you as good as Chief.[/quote] I very much agree so. It's plain logic that after the Human-Covenant War, what is left of humanity is in shambles. Rebuilding and reconstruction has put a falter on resources and income, leaving everything spread thin. We can look at Germany after the first World War and how their economy suffered, as well as the world's. I would imagine it being similar for the past 4-5 years. My point being, the UNSC would not invest large amounts of credits and resources into producing a limited number of super soldiers. Why would they need them anyways? A simple answer to this is, is to keep the peace among remaining and rebuilding colonies. Brutes and Covenant pirates still lurk the reaches of space. If wars broke out amongst colonies in times of peace, imagine what near extinction would do to the people of the Halo universe. They need Spartans to help keep the peace and still produce excellent records and successful missions/tasks appointed to them. So in a sense, the Spartans are finally doing the job they were intended for! As stated before, there are a wide variety of these Spartans, in a time a relative limited resources, so it is not hard to believe they are mass produced. I am confident that they are more affordable than Spartan-III's but still just as effective as Spartan-III's. As we know with mass production, they have their faults. Spartan-III's were not as strong or as fast as Spartan-II's and had limited armor compared to MJOLNIR. My questions are, however: [b]1. Why the sudden switch from children to already trained soldiers?[/b] (One does not simply volunteer to become a Spartan, unless their name rhymes with Margeant Swanson! [Fall of Reach, ORION Project] [b]2. What are the physical and technological limitations and shortcomings of Spartan-IV's compared to the Chief. 3. What role will they play in Chief's exploration of this new and dangerous planet? 4. What kind of new armor is Chief wearing? 5. How did he get it? 6. How does it compare to the Spartan-IV's? 7. What motivations would a Spartan-II have to join the Spartan-IV program and how does it compare to the Spartan-III program?[/b] (Halopedia) Hopefully Halo 4 can provide liable explanations that don't insult the fan's and/or even the average gamer's intelligence. I'm confident 343 Studios won't disappoint as they did an amazing job with the Terminals, establishing a spine and framework from which all Halo titles can be linked to the new Reclaimer trilogy and answers questions fans have pondered on since Halo's mysteries and secrets arose. [i]I just wish the new characters didn't appear so similar to the point that if you'd put them in Crysis with a little color correction, they'd fit in. That's just my viewpoint.[/i] [url=http://youtu.be/Tf2yVRU30n8?hd=1]Halo 4 is Scary[/url] [Edited on 06.24.2012 12:01 AM PDT]

I wouldn't say as effective. Jorge WAS a II. Six was the most skilled of them, and was as good as. The rest kind of faltered in comparison. Still though, I maintain that even if they could work as well as II's, they were still special cases, the best of the best, and they were in Spartan II armour. And even so, being as good as any Spartan II doesn't make you as good as Chief.

Flaming^^, 3s are just as effictive as 2s, noble team is proof of that. However oni being stupid, sent them on sucide missions when they were very young (alpha and beta)when in my view they would have been far more effctive if they were used as spartan 2s were used. However i do agree that spartan 4s are nowhere near 2s and 3s.

Giving it to Chief. Spartan IV's trained for the beginning of their careers to be marines, only after being showing excellent combat skills were they augmented to be Spartan IV's. The Chief trained since the beginning of his LIFE to be a Spartan II, and you can say what you want about luck, because even among the Spartan II's he's revered as a legend. The Spartan IV's are, from what I understand of what we've been given so far, are a less effective, cheaper version of Spartan III's. And Spartan III's are a less effective, cheaper version of Spartan II's. And Master Chief is the king of the Spartan II's. The IV's are cool and all, but from what I understand, it's like pitting a fox against the king of the wolves.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] greatestSheriff We don't even know what type of armor S-IVs wear. [/quote]Lightweight MJOLNIR Mark VII. It's "GEN 2" as well according to 343i's website. Not sure what they mean by that, but to sum it up: GEN 2 Lightweight MJOLNIR Mark VII armour.[/quote] Then how come I see Mark VII and Gen2 listed as two entirely different armors?[/quote]You're right. They are two different sets of armour. My bad. However my question is...could a Spartan IV wear MJOLNIR Mk V or VI if needed?

I Totally agree.