I just finished reading [i]The Cole Protocol[/i] (Quite addictive) and one part stood out to me. The part where Captain Keyes and the ODSTs jump into outer space and use their battle rifles to distance themselves from the ship. The author tried to be intelligent and use Newton's Third Law of Physics to support this, however, when one thinks about it, guns would not even work in space at all because there is no atmosphere.
Discuss.
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Firstly: Guns can fire in a vacuum. Secondly: If they didn't, Halo is a science fiction game. Future Science... get over it.
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This makes no sense, so it must be right.
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Halo also violates the law of non-fiction. ;o
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How does this violate the laws of physics?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Dutchman NOBLE 6 FELL DOWNWARD IN SPACE. Etc.[/quote] He fell towards the object with largest mass... He had not enough speed to stay in orbit/fly into space, he fell down to the planet.
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NOBLE 6 FELL DOWNWARD IN SPACE. Etc.
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No. Physics violates the laws of Halo. But seriously, your problem is that the guns should not fire? I'm no scientist by any means, but they're obviously contained or something, with an independent oxygen supply. It's a universe where space-combat is a reality; do you really think their weapons wouldn't be able to fire in space? [Edited on 04.22.2012 5:29 PM PDT]
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Why do spartans float?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Captain Richards I just finished reading [i]The Cole Protocol[/i] (Quite addictive) and one part stood out to me. The part where Captain Keyes and the ODSTs jump into outer space and use their battle rifles to distance themselves from the ship. The author tried to be intelligent and use Newton's Third Law of Physics to support this, however, when one thinks about it, guns would not even work in space at all because there is no atmosphere. Discuss.[/quote] Guns fire normally in the vaccum of space, and will propel objects away at an average force of 14psi. And no, don't be scared, I searched that. :)
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i am entertained by the shortsightedness of those in this thread it has to do with chemistry and physics, also several posters on this thread have not even read the replies before them so they view as rambling clones. guns can fire due to the fact there is a chemical mixed with the oxygen and sulfur which contains oxygen and when the hammer strikes the primer it causes the compounds to mix and give the force necessary for the slug to travel out of the chamber at high speeds. if you want a argument of halo defying laws of reality research before you open your mouth.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter That has nothing to do with the laws of physics...[/quote] As I was reading this I was laughing a little bit due to the fact that this doesn't have to do with physics. It has everything to do with chemistry. Some one should find the chemical compound of gun powder and balance it. ~Quinton~
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Well it's a fictional story soo anything goes. No need to freak out about guns in space, just enjoy the story and don't over think it.
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You'd think someone would have mentioned this when we were jumping around Cairo Station, but nooooo.
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People there is a video in the middle of the thread showing a gun shoot in a vacuum. So it is possible with our guns now and definitively possible with the guns in their future.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gsprad7878 the powder requires oxygen to ignite and theres no oxygen in space because its a vacumn therefore guns wouldnt work in space. [/quote] There's oxygen in the gun powder. [Edited on 04.22.2012 11:42 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gsprad7878 the powder requires oxygen to ignite and theres no oxygen in space because its a vacumn therefore guns wouldnt work in space. [/quote] The gun powder already has oxygen in it, vacuum would only make firing a bullet more effective as the only thing affecting it would be a planet's gravity well, otherwise it would go on forever until hitting something.
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the powder requires oxygen to ignite and theres no oxygen in space because its a vacumn therefore guns wouldnt work in space.
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Dude, FTL travel already violates Physics. Besides, they do work. Albeit less(?) effective.
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That has nothing to do with the laws of physics...
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Guns work in space.
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yeah but what if they are some sort of special guns, i mean we are talking about halo something that takes place in the distant future where space battles are the norm, i think they would have developed a sort of gun that could fire with no atmosphere.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ImmortalJoshua Oh look a science fiction series that violates the laws of physics and real world stuff, what are the odds?[/quote]Yet it doesn't, I don't think...
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The guns of our time wouldn't work indeed, but we are talking about guns of the year 2530 maybe, so human technology is way different. Do not apply our technology to a 500 year technology ahead. So yeah, the guns in 500 years in the future will surely be different from our time. Just use your brain to think a little bit. [Edited on 04.21.2012 10:19 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Captain Richards I just finished reading [i]The Cole Protocol[/i] (Quite addictive) and one part stood out to me. The part where Captain Keyes and the ODSTs jump into outer space and use their battle rifles to distance themselves from the ship. The author tried to be intelligent and use Newton's Third Law of Physics to support this, however, when one thinks about it, guns would not even work in space at all because there is no atmosphere. Discuss.[/quote] Actually, gunpowder used in bullets already have the necessary oxidants in the mix. So there doesn't need to be any oxygen around for the gun to shoot, since its already in the gunpowder.
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Oh look a science fiction series that violates the laws of physics and real world stuff, what are the odds?
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Every good book should defy something. Physics is fun to defy. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] M94 Mushroom Man Still a good book.[/quote]