Think about it. In real life if someone pulled out two guns and the other guy pulled out one. Who would have better accuracy and draw time. Um yes, One 45 please. Thank you.

Asking about dual-wielding in Halo 3 is okay. Saying you dislike dual-wielding is okay. Telling someone they are an idiot or noob because they believe dual-wielding has a purpose, is not okay. Also, do not bump your own thread.

agreed it just sounds to me like someone sux at halo 2 and is trying to make excuses. Dude its so easy to take out a dual wielder with almost anysingle wield weapon.

I think the problem is the weapons were just toned down too much. duel weilding is not the problem.(although for a masterfull Hand to Hand Combat Chief, dont you think that the duel weilding negated this alittle? they weekened the mele(which ruined the "hand to hand combat) and this made no sense to NOT duel weild. i do appreciate your opinion.. but lets remember while we postin here that thats all we have to say is our opinion. and as long as we dont direct things at specific individuals, i think we'll all just get along fine. I enjoy the speculation and have alot of really cool banter going back and fourth between users. aand ghetto, please dont direct comments like that at the end of your post.... all its gonna do is start trouble and ruin the "speculation" that the fans have. Please speculate all you want, i enjoyed your speculation until i read the last sentence.... peace out everyone ill be back.. but for now... i need to whatch the The Halo 3 trailer in HIGH DEFFINITION. and after i do.. im sure ill be back with more speculation as well. Peace. and to the peeps who are flaming me already, geez man.. this is only my opinion and thats all it is.. sometimes its just too hard to come here and post something for Bungie to see... cause thats why i post. i want bungie know how i feel... i am only and individual, but i am speaking for alot of Halo: Combaat Evolved Fans.... and if you've never played Halo: Combat Evolved "ONLINE" on XBOXCONNECT>COM... then maybe you should give it a shot and you'll understand my "speculation".. or you will think the game sux ass and thats okay as well....Peace [Edited on 5/9/2006]

Dual wielding was awesome, do you think they'd eliminate it because some people are complaining? Get an IQ please.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Retrohippy thank u ghetto everyone is all like oh its the best wepon they should take it out its unfair [/quote] huh?

here's another thing. the lunge on melees makes every close range fight a -blam!- whap fest. once you get so close the ONLY thing to do is punch. and since you lunge their nothing after it. someone almost always dies. it doesnt matter if you can kill a dual weilder or not up close. the fact is its not fun gameplay. its a newb charge.. the responses in this thread so far is really disappointing

thank u ghetto everyone is all like oh its the best wepon they should take it out its unfair

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nightmare89 After seeing that awesome trailer and watching the Master Cheif wield his Assault Rifle (at least it looked like that). I could only think, did they finally eliminate Dual Wielding??? Now if people didn't know this already, dual wielding was just an excuse to dumb down the weapons we grown to love from Halo1 so they could be Dual-Wieldable. Dual Wielding also caused a lot of issues over xbox live. By making the game very un-balanced as it was almost impossible to take down someone with a dual wield with your single wield weapon. Hopefully Bungie will realize their mistake of adding dual wielding and make every weapon single wield again. This way every weapon has its own unique use and no weapon becomes useless if its not dual wielded like in Halo 2. Therefore also creating a more fun / balanced out multiplayer game environment. [/quote] OMFG, its a TRAILER!!!!!!! Did you see dual wields in halo2's annoucment trailer? They havent even mentioned anything about it. That AR looking gun will propally be our weapon of choice like the BR. How is it hard to kill a dual wielder with a single gun? [Edited on 5/9/2006]

OMG DUAL_WIELDING makes Halo very balanced....how much times as a guy with a noob Combo go up and noobs u but u doge it and then u go out and shoot him with ur smg and plasma pistol....Ith elps..but if u had no dual-wields ud be screwed either way..god u guys dont think sometimes....It helps Dual Wieldin makes halo2 more stragetic...Now in halo3 if theres no duals ill always jsut get BR'd without any chance to kill the dude...dang man get it straight and stop smokin that dope u be doin who ever made this forum

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] c0mfor7a31y_Num3 Duel weilding also negated the fact that the MC was this awesome amazing "hand to hand" combat fighter.... duel weilding obviously took this away and basically left you to mele people from behind only.... i can only remember the days of Halo : Combat Evolved where the close range fights actually turned into to hand to hand combat(and obviously made the gameplay flow alot smoother and made the FACE FACE combat even more intense.. i missed this a tremendous amount in Halo 2.( BTW... Special thanks to Bungie for calling Halo: Combat Evolved and not Halo 1. Its obvious the two games had no gameplay in common and thats why i think its wrong to call it Halo 1. I am downloading the Trailer in HD now as we speak. the only speculation i have at this moment was the picture i saw in the update the showed the MC holding what looked like to be the "Original" Assault rifle From Halo: Combat Evolved. if thats the case, and well see these weapons again im all about Halo 3. if that changes and the game ends up being more like Halo 2, i will probably not be a fan of Halo 3. Its no secret im not a big fan of Halo 2 and i wont come in here and say how great i think the game is.(personally i hated it and i never denied that) this does not make me any less of a halo fan. ill always be here to show my support for the objectives of Bungie and will always appreciate what they have to do to Make Money as a business. alot of people dont realize that thats the point of running a company and thats to make money... wheather or not i like the 3rd game, i still appreciate what Bungie has do to make sure that they make the Money that they ant... and by all means they are entitled to that ano NOONE can deny this to any business. Once again bungie, thanks for all you've done in the past wheather or not i've like it .. i still appreciate what you guys do. Peace out. And i give you guys the utmost rspect that i can. Thanks for doing anything and everything that you guys are doing and i Hope to see alot more Halo :Combat evolved fans on live playing Halo 3. You guys own. BTW... you need to add an 8th step to your plan, and thats to take over MS, cause we all know that MS is the world Dominator and thats gonna hard to surpass. BTW- dont make it an 8th step in your plan.. you to call it like -1 or something.. cause adding 8 would just simply Ruin you Lucky 7. i hope you have enjoyed my post. its always a pleasure. But the real reason i came in here was to ask my question which is very very very impoertant.. even more than Halo 3. ARE YOU GUYS PINK FLOYD FANS? I need to know. [/quote] r u kidding me halo 2 is so much H2H combat in it more than Halo: combat evolved u guys seriously need to play more

Duel weilding also negated the fact that the MC was this awesome amazing "hand to hand" combat fighter.... duel weilding obviously took this away and basically left you to mele people from behind only.... i can only remember the days of Halo : Combat Evolved where the close range fights actually turned into to hand to hand combat(and obviously made the gameplay flow alot smoother and made the FACE FACE combat even more intense.. i missed this a tremendous amount in Halo 2.( BTW... Special thanks to Bungie for calling Halo: Combat Evolved and not Halo 1. Its obvious the two games had no gameplay in common and thats why i think its wrong to call it Halo 1. I am downloading the Trailer in HD now as we speak. the only speculation i have at this moment was the picture i saw in the update the showed the MC holding what looked like to be the "Original" Assault rifle From Halo: Combat Evolved. if thats the case, and well see these weapons again im all about Halo 3. if that changes and the game ends up being more like Halo 2, i will probably not be a fan of Halo 3. Its no secret im not a big fan of Halo 2 and i wont come in here and say how great i think the game is.(personally i hated it and i never denied that) this does not make me any less of a halo fan. ill always be here to show my support for the objectives of Bungie and will always appreciate what they have to do to Make Money as a business. alot of people dont realize that thats the point of running a company and thats to make money... wheather or not i like the 3rd game, i still appreciate what Bungie has do to make sure that they make the Money that they ant... and by all means they are entitled to that ano NOONE can deny this to any business. Once again bungie, thanks for all you've done in the past wheather or not i've like it .. i still appreciate what you guys do. Peace out. And i give you guys the utmost rspect that i can. Thanks for doing anything and everything that you guys are doing and i Hope to see alot more Halo :Combat evolved fans on live playing Halo 3. You guys own. BTW... you need to add an 8th step to your plan, and thats to take over MS, cause we all know that MS is the world Dominator and thats gonna hard to surpass. BTW- dont make it an 8th step in your plan.. you to call it like -1 or something.. cause adding 8 would just simply Ruin you Lucky 7. i hope you have enjoyed my post. its always a pleasure. But the real reason i came in here was to ask my question which is very very very impoertant.. even more than Halo 3. ARE YOU GUYS PINK FLOYD FANS? I need to know.

wow if u cant take a dual combo down u must rlly suck its not that hard just nade then bust out ur SMG u suk if u think whoever has a dual is invincible plenty of things can take a dual down a BR those things frikken pwn so dont be like "oh ya they need to take duals out cause they r nooby weps for spawn killing" all that proves is that ur such a nub u cant take opne down and that wasnt an AR that was a BR so dont start rumors the new BR just looks like a FAMAS kind of i promise u there will be no AR in the new halo [Edited on 5/9/2006]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Commander Bob Er... Dual Wielding wasn't a "mistake." And if you believe that it was, fine. But don't try to pass that off as fact. Some people like it, some don't. Nobody's an idiot because they like to use two weapons. I can garantee that there will be Dual Wielding in Halo 3.[/quote] For someone who hates made up facts your last statement didnt really prove your point.

Just because the AR is back doesn't mean that duals are gone. They can both exist. Think of it this way, the SMG is an Uzi and the AR is an M16 they are different guns and can coexist.

the pistol took skill, and it was actually interesting to have a shootout from almost ANYWHERE on the map. there is nothing fun about dual weilding. it is mindless newb charging and camping. halo2's combat is too close range orientated. its not fun to play. the battle rifle cant hit anything far away, and the instant hit shots make the fights boring. some other things i'd like to address tracking rockets = bad idea. nades= explode too fast and too easy to hit people. larger radius and slightly longer fuse = the way to go. offense/defense bases = boring. people camping in a building is boring. include halo1's offense/defense system. classic assault with no bomb arm time. nading weapons, timing weapons etc etc,

I don't see why everyone wants to have Halo 1 with a new storyline and stuff. This is new, they get rid of the old. If it was too powerful in the first one (Pistol), they get rid of it. Dual Wielding is fine. I use it, I don't use it. This is what makes me mad. A small amount of people go "Oh my god. The pistol is gone! This game sucks!" Get used to new things. Anyway, the video didn't show anything besides Master Chief holding the Assault rifle. If they bring it back, that's good, but I still rather dual wield two SMGs. One to kill the small flood, and the other to kill big flood.

dual weilding is the worst thing to ever be put into a game. ever. it is mindless newb charging. just look at rumble pit, honestly.

well i say that your wrong because the duel wielding wasn't that bad because you probaly could only die from it if it gets to close and domates you to obilvion then your soul will go down in the halo 2 community and you end up modding or stand-bying.... but my point is that it is a good idea to keep in make you look cool and you could be the guy mowing down the innocent lvl 20 who knows. What if they just merged both the weapons so there is a setting to bring back the old game

It is possible bungie will find a way to incorporate single wield and dual wield weapons in the game.....none of us know the specs of the weapons yet (Bungie might not even know yet) so we cant make assumptions. [Edited on 5/9/2006]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Morivinn I personally like dual wielding. But I think there is a technical problem with the 360 controller that prevents it. The two triggers are a single axis and when both are squeezed, they cancel out. This is true for the PC driver. I hope it's not true for the 360. Anyone know for sure?[/quote] Ummm....no. I've played Halo 2 on 360 without any problems.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] darkzeal Amen to that! Every weapon should be able to stand on it's own and have its own niche in the Halo3 world![/quote] Wait, wasn't there a really, really good game based on that principle? Oh yeah, it was named Halo. The original.

Amen to that! Every weapon should be able to stand on it's own and have its own niche in the Halo3 world!

Ok, now if you are saying "Duel Wielding is pointless because it can be taken down by one weapon alone" is stupid. Duel Wielding is useful in so many occasions. When some one is in a vehicle is one. When someone just picks up over shield and you duel plasma rifle them is another. Don't say it is useless. Because it isn't. If it is so useless to you then don't duel wield. I find it helpful at times. Taking it out IMO would be a horrible idea. Any guns of a small size with low to no recoil should be duel wieldable. It makes sense. You need to allow many types of view to this game. Not just what would make it better. "Noobing it up" makes more people buy the game. It also makes it fun. I would rather play and be happy/ have fun then be all serious about it.

Wonder if he was any good with a sniper or battle rifle, even without a plasma pistol you could easily drop a dual wielder.

Dual wielding is fine with me. I don't really use it but that doesn't mean I don't want it out of the game. Other people just say to take it out of the game because they don't use it, other people do though so think about that.