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2/5/2010 10:19:27 PM
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Halo Encyclopedia, lacking...

The Halo Encyclopedia, it is suppose to be the definitive guide of Halo information to date. Yet, it seems to simply be an expanded Game Manual to me. The book doesn't delve into anything at all. What it had for characters could hardly be called Bio's at all. Certain things that it especially missed: -Precursors (It doesn't even talk about them in the slightest.) -Vehicles (Information is 'okay', visuals is what was lacking. Several had very non-descriptive pictures; The Spectre and Doozy, didn't even have pictures) -Elites (In the Elite section there is a 'okay' bit of information and rankings, but none of the Elite Armors in Halo 3 were even mentioned.) Heretics (The Covenant Heretics from Halo 2 are hardly mentioned, and never given their own bio or visuals. Not even the Heretic Leader Sesa 'Refumee.) -Covenant (Have an overall lack of info on their Age's and history, there isn't even a listing of when the Huragok joined them) -Spartans (So many are not given descriptions, and even more are not listed. And for the ones with descriptions, they are worthless.) -Visuals (As a whole, the encyclopedia was very lacking on visuals. Rarely were there shots, and almost never full body shots, of characters, place, planets, etc.) -ILB (It talks about the Apocalypso and mentions the Spartan I's, but nothing about the events of ILB's, nor descriptions of the Spartan I's or their children. -AdjutantReflux? (Nothing of Adjunct Reflux or IRIS is mentioned or described.) -Extra? (What of the extra Halo material that not all have easy access to come across? The Cortana Letters, Early Transmissions, ILB, IRIS, Forerunner Email, Gravemind Poem, Bestiarum, Conversations from the Universe, etc. For being the 'Definitive Guide', loose things like this should be included within.) And now, with Halo: Evolutions, Halo: Reach and Halo: Legends there is even more that this "encyclopedia" is missing, it won't have anything about Nobel Team, the Jackals cousin-race Scavengers, and nothing story-wise that will be revealed by any of the three. Did DK even work with bungie on this thing or did they just copy what the manuals and Halo.wikia have(and not even an extensive copy at that)? A definitive guide is not just a sum of games and books, but a compilation of all the intricacies within. Where details that came unnoticed can be revealed. And one can get a bigger, clearer, picture of everything that is Halo. Frank O'Connor's Foreword at the beginning even says that: "And here, in these pages, we can explore that DEPTH and learn EVERYTHING there is to know about the heroes, the weapons, the conflicts, and the legends that define that universe". [Edited on 02.05.2010 2:26 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] privet caboose So far I'm happy with 343. The encyclopedia was their first work, and it was pretty lacking, a bad start. Halo Waypoint is really neat. I like it alot, It's a great source for Halo stuff. Halo Legends is really good. Sure the acting is bad, but it's a good way to explore the universe. There hasn't been many canon errors, and the ones that are there, (like spartan numbers) have been skewed for years. And Halo Evolutions was amazing. Simply amazing. [/quote] It's like climbing the ladder to success! Ahhhh..... good times, you start off bad, then work your way up.

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  • It isn't lacking, it's ruined.

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  • This is somewhat unrelated, but i think it's important in our discussion of 343. One of the major issues with the Halo canon is that [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33630397]it's far more fluid[/url] than most people think when they think "canon." We had been told FOR SURE that I Love Bees wasn't canon, but apparently it is now. Unlike other Expanded Universes (I'm specifically thinking of Star Wars), the Halo canon can, ostensibly, be changed at a moment's notice, especially now that 343 is in control instead of Bungie. Basically, any "problems" that the newer stuff causes with regard to continuity aren't actually problems. Continuity issues are simply the new truth being different than the old truth, which is made into a falsehood. It's not the best system, but it's what we've got.

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  • I have to agree Evolutions is by far the greatest feat 343 has come out with.

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  • So far I'm happy with 343. The encyclopedia was their first work, and it was pretty lacking, a bad start. Halo Waypoint is really neat. I like it alot, It's a great source for Halo stuff. Halo Legends is really good. Sure the acting is bad, but it's a good way to explore the universe. There hasn't been many canon errors, and the ones that are there, (like spartan numbers) have been skewed for years. And Halo Evolutions was amazing. Simply amazing.

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  • Nah, Ensemble made the story in unison with Bungie employees, like Joe Staten. Same way the novels were made.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef 343 didn't work on Halo Wars... That was Ensemble.[/quote] Wasn't it 343 in conjunction with Ensemble? Ensemble making the game and mechanics but 343 making the story.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Child0fTheMind Wait... so 343 Industries made the Encyclopedia (aka garbage), 343 Industries made Legends (aka garbage, neat but causes continuity issues), and 343 Industries made Halo Wars (good game, causes continuity issues)... Hm... I see a trend here... 343 Industries, are you even using Bungies Halo Bible or at least going over past canon before producing any of this 5H!7?[/quote] 343 didn't work on Halo Wars... That was Ensemble.

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  • Wait... so 343 Industries made the Encyclopedia (aka garbage), 343 Industries made Legends (aka garbage, neat but causes continuity issues), and 343 Industries made Halo Wars (good game, causes continuity issues)... Hm... I see a trend here... 343 Industries, are you even using Bungies Halo Bible or at least going over past canon before producing any of this 5H!7?

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  • Yeah, It might be worth it. But Bungie did not make The Encyclopedia. It was made with 343 Industries.

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  • You think we could petition for Bungie to make a more comprehensive version?

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  • The Encyclopedia was massively disappointing. Copying and pasting from halopedia, lots of omissions(Orbital Defense Platforms, despite there prominence in both the books and games are only mentioned in passing.), a lack of detailed information, no editing(I never new the Truth and Reconciliation was a cruiser that looked exactly like an Assault Carrier), and poor organization(How are the list of colonies organized? Does anyone know? How about the Spartans? They have a list, but it's incomplete, not mentioning listing several Spartans which are mentioned a few pages later.) all contribute to making it a very poor book.

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  • ... This isn't a topic about Halo.wikia, it's about the Halo Encyclopedia, please take your Halo.wikia argument to another thread.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef Oh ok, so you've constantly read every detail from the whole article every single day?[/quote] I'm not saying I read it every day, but I do read Halopedia often. Sure it wasn't an edit that lasted long, but it didn't get corrected for a few days. Also there was an edit that lasted definitely several months that said the keyship was invincible.[/quote] Sometimes the administraters overlook those mistakes but good job for correcting the mistakes.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef Probably because I can't read. -___-[/quote] Fix'd[/quote] Are you retarded? It used to say that so I fixed it. This was like 2-3 months ago.[/quote] I've read the article earlier than that, say, the beginning of '09, and it never said anything like what you described. What probably happened was that some unregistered user edited the article either simply as a joke or he honestly thought what he was typing was true so that when you read the article it had all those mistakes leading you to change it back. just a theory.[/quote] Oh ok, so you've constantly read every detail from the whole article every single day? Sure it wasn't an edit that lasted long, but it didn't get corrected for a few days. Also there was an edit that lasted definitely several months that said the keyship was invincible.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef Probably because I can't read. -___-[/quote] Fix'd[/quote] Are you retarded? It used to say that so I fixed it. This was like 2-3 months ago.[/quote] I've read the article earlier than that, say, the beginning of '09, and it never said anything like what you described. What probably happened was that some unregistered user edited the article either simply as a joke or he honestly thought what he was typing was true so that when you read the article it had all those mistakes leading you to change it back. just a theory.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef Probably because I can't read. -___-[/quote] Fix'd[/quote] Are you retarded? It used to say that so I fixed it. This was like 2-3 months ago.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef Probably because I can't read. -___-[/quote] Fix'd

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST27 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THElizzard01 Go to Halo Wiki. It has the best source of stuff about Halo and is constantly up to date.[/quote]er...I'd say as long as the info is sourced it's ok, but never take a wiki on full faith.[/quote] Don't worry, it's all well sourced and checked; Halopedia is very reliable.[/quote] No, it really isn't. One of the worst large scale wikis I've seen. I saw on the forerunner keyship page it said it had a nuclear missile launcher and invincible armor as well a whole fleet inside it. I was like wat[/quote] No, no it doesn't.[/quote] Probably because I changed it. -___-

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wifout Teef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST27 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THElizzard01 Go to Halo Wiki. It has the best source of stuff about Halo and is constantly up to date.[/quote]er...I'd say as long as the info is sourced it's ok, but never take a wiki on full faith.[/quote] Don't worry, it's all well sourced and checked; Halopedia is very reliable.[/quote] No, it really isn't. One of the worst large scale wikis I've seen. I saw on the forerunner keyship page it said it had a nuclear missile launcher and invincible armor as well a whole fleet inside it. I was like wat[/quote] No, no it doesn't say that. [Edited on 02.05.2010 8:29 PM PST]

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  • Oooh, stop. Volume 2 will make you happy. (I'm guessing it will be made eventually. Encyclopedias have volumes right?)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SGT lemon 25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST27 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THElizzard01 Go to Halo Wiki. It has the best source of stuff about Halo and is constantly up to date.[/quote]er...I'd say as long as the info is sourced it's ok, but never take a wiki on full faith.[/quote] Don't worry, it's all well sourced and checked; Halopedia is very reliable.[/quote] No, it really isn't. One of the worst large scale wikis I've seen. I saw on the forerunner keyship page it said it had a nuclear missile launcher and invincible armor as well a whole fleet inside it. I was like wat

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST27 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THElizzard01 Go to Halo Wiki. It has the best source of stuff about Halo and is constantly up to date.[/quote]er...I'd say as long as the info is sourced it's ok, but never take a wiki on full faith.[/quote] Don't worry, it's all well sourced and checked; Halopedia is very reliable.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THElizzard01 Go to Halo Wiki. It has the best source of stuff about Halo and is constantly up to date.[/quote] That explains why I constantly have to correct things there whenever I visit an article.

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  • I agree. I was completely upset that it didn't identify the crew number behind Halo Wars vehicles and that it didn't take note of Gold Hunters and different colored Drones as seen in ODST. It was a good read, don't get me wrong, but I would have preferred if it were pushed back until after Reach. Plus, it didn't even mention Dare! And.... it doesn't even have a picture of the Rogue helmet - it's another Spartan in Scout. Maybe an update to the book may be released - similar to the Star Wars: Ultimate Visual Guide book.

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