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The Great Big Group Guide

[b][quote][u]Navigation:[/u] [/b][url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104809]Section 1: General Group Information[/url] [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104861]Section 2: Group Tools[/url] (continues at beginning of section 3) [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104904]Section 3: Tips and Tricks[/url] [/quote] [u]Introduction:[/u] Hello all, I’ve created this thread as a guide for users of this site, new and old to understand the private group system, group tools and some techniques that are perhaps less well known are documented here. I do not take credit for any information in this guide I have just brought it together into one hopefully informative thread. I have linked content posted by other users throughout with their names mentioned for credit when required. ===Section 1: General Group Information=== [i]In this section I’ll cover general group information such as recruiting, creating, maintaining and searching for a group if you don’t want to found one.[/i] [u]Groups, a Brief Summary:[/u] Groups were originally brought in during the pre-2004 build of the Bungie website. The purpose was to allow Halo: Combat Evolved players to collaborate in order to find local players to participate in LAN (Local Area Network Events) due to the absence of Online play at the time for the Halo franchise. This purpose although still used by a few groups has been near forgotten, because of this many groups lack purpose and soon become in active (if they every reach a phase of activity in the first place). [u]Founding a Group[/u] To found a group you need to have been a member of the site for at least 14 days, after this period if you visit this [url=http://www.bungie.net/Group/CreateNewGroup.aspx]link[/url] (also accessible under the My Groups link at the top of the page) and follow the steps then a group can be created in a painless, simple, free process. See Section 2 for details on changing any of the details you created (other than the name which cannot be changed) under the title “Changing Group Information”. [u]"Help my Groups on Probation and Might Get Deleted, What do I do?!"[/u] Groups when founded are given 60 days to reach a minimum activity level. For first time founders this may prove as a shock and concern them however 60 days is a long time and the minimum activity level is only 3 members so don't worry about it. If you've failed to gather 3 members after 2 months then your group obviously isn't attracting people so you should review your group's purpose. [u]How can I make a Successful Group?[/u] One frequently asked question is “How can I make my group successful?” there are a variety of ways to do this such as providing interesting content, games, activities for members and an environment from which they are comfortable and want to return to. I would say the main thing that returns people to a chapter though is purpose. For a group to be successful over a long period of time it needs something to separate it from the crowd and it needs to be constantly updated and fresh. If your group fails to have a purpose then it will fail, if it doesn’t have one it will need one to succeed. However don’t see a large member base as success, it isn’t. Many groups with 1000+ members have dwindled to inactivity. You can try to recruit members via PM but most of the time they’ll join without contributing. It is better to make the group good and then gather members, but they’ll find you if your group has something to offer. [u]“I Have something Great but I need to Recruit, what can I do?”[/u] Although as mentioned a large member base doesn’t mean success, sometimes small tight-knit groups are more enjoyable, there are some cases where members are needed to make things function. First you’ll need something to make them active of course but if that’s sussed then here are some recruitment techniques. 1. [b][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=9]The Classifieds Forum:[/url][/b] This forum is quite inactive and won’t gather a large amount of members but don’t see that as a complete disadvantage. Post a good, well laid out, informative Ad here say every few days and eventually somebody who is generally interested will see it, this type of person is much more likely to be active as they found the group for their own interests rather than hearing about it via word of mouth. 2. [b]Private Messages:[/b] This is the best way to get lots of members quickly however it is also the most annoying method and will likely reduce the chances of seasoned members joining the group because, well, we hate group Ads but you never know until you ask, just make sure you don’t send more than one or the user may block PM communications with you. Best thing to do is create a polite message and paste in the users name, don’t make it too personal and keep it simple yet informative. 3. [b][url=http://www.bungie.net/community/default.aspx]Private Groups Spotlight[/url][/b] This method is out of your control but, everyday 10 (semi)active groups are selected at random. Some users do check this page, me included - although not particularly regularly. A bit of luck and a bit of activity may benefit your group here. 4. [b]Help Improve the Group Search[/b] An unfortunately less well known method of group searching can be found within [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=28409700]this thread by Bnet user [b]Cryptic[/b][/url], I suggest group founders take a look at this thread, it may be beneficial if more group founders use the method, tell your friends and fellow founders! [u]“Wait! I don’t Want to Found a Group, I want to Join One, Help!”[/u] Some users don’t want the hassle of maintaining a group and just want to join an enjoyable atmosphere and find a group they’ll benefit from. The current group search system is limited but it does exist. The group finder can be found [url=http://www.bungie.net/Community/GroupSearch.aspx]here[/url]. Alternatively you could look under the groups of users in the public forums who you think you’d get on with and you may find a group that also matches your interests. Again, see [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=28409700]this thread[/url] for a possible way of improving group search results. [b][quote][u]Navigation:[/u] [/b][url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104809]Section 1: General Group Information[/url] [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104861]Section 2: Group Tools[/url] (continues at beginning of section 3) [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104904]Section 3: Tips and Tricks[/url] [/quote] [Edited on 02.06.2009 9:56 AM PST]

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  • I hate people who type lol at the end of every sentence lol.

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  • Can I give you $50.00 for a lesson lol?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ArchAssain Tom this is Amazing... Please tell me how you accomplish these things... I want to learn teacher. lol.[/quote]Thanks! You must channel your boredom and resentment to do homework, then you will learn the secrets that I possess. [Edited on 02.06.2009 11:47 AM PST]

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  • Tom this is Amazing... Please tell me how you accomplish these things... I want to learn teacher. lol.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ecartman1214 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 Thanks guys for the feedback do far, I think I've fixed everything. Don't worry about replying mid-way, I've put in a navigation box so it shouldn't be a problem. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hawkeye543 Wow, that is a ton of information. Thanks for linking all the group themes, that will make things easier when it comes time to switch themes for a group. Nice work Tom. ~Hawk[/quote]Some of the themes aren't listed as Ecartman did many of them before (20 of the 30) I just linked his old thread in my OP(s). It saved me a lot of work so I have him to thank! EDIT: I'm going to be logging off shortly, any issues please post them here, I'll check this thread tomorrow and make any necessary amendments.[/quote] hes not around near as much as he used to be, but you are indeed welcome.[/quote]Did you just talk about yourself in first person? Also this is blatantly not a pointless post to bump this thread up a little, anyone accusing me of such an act which I have [i]never in my life[/i] partaken in, will be slapped with a wet fish sometime in their lives. EDIT: In all seriousness, I'll give this thread one more day just so a few more members look at it and save it if they deem it useful then it'll vanish to the depths ready for me to link it to users if ever they need help. [Edited on 03.10.2009 12:06 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 Thanks guys for the feedback do far, I think I've fixed everything. Don't worry about replying mid-way, I've put in a navigation box so it shouldn't be a problem. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hawkeye543 Wow, that is a ton of information. Thanks for linking all the group themes, that will make things easier when it comes time to switch themes for a group. Nice work Tom. ~Hawk[/quote]Some of the themes aren't listed as Ecartman did many of them before (20 of the 30) I just linked his old thread in my OP(s). It saved me a lot of work so I have him to thank! EDIT: I'm going to be logging off shortly, any issues please post them here, I'll check this thread tomorrow and make any necessary amendments.[/quote] hes not around near as much as he used to be, but you are indeed welcome.

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  • *begin typical Septagon circle jerk* Tom, Honey, I... appreciate what you're doing, but... this... piece of -blam!- you call a guide is not needed. I know that you appear to be 'helping' the Community, but we can all see through this bull-blam!-. It's not helpful in any way, shape, or form. It's just a sad excuse to get you recognition, or, perhaps, a chance to get you ahead of the herd for the next moderator lottery! I'm going to go ahead and call all of you posters, who replied with something similar to this "nice work lol. This is a great guide that no one will ever use!", complete PHONIES. You are pathetic. Your pathetic attempts to get noticed by Tom T, or one of the moderators, are laughable. Well, now isn't this awkward... The truth hurts, but it must be spoken. Tom, good luck on your quest to become Moderator. I hope your pathetic attempts to help the community get recognized. Sincerely, Vox Populi

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  • The title of this thread just rolls off the tounge. Back on topic, great job man, the Community should put this to great use!!!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mero90 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vox_Populi23 Not really, considering that most noobies wouldn't even glance once at this thread.[/quote] This is highly unnecessary. [/quote]How so? If you're referring to the negativity of my post, then your complaint isn't valid. I was bringing in another side of the issue. Tom felt like posting the thread. That instantly means anything in the post is up for discussion or ridicule.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vox_Populi23 Not really, considering that most noobies wouldn't even glance once at this thread.[/quote] This is highly unnecessary. But good work, liked it and intend to keep it for future reference should i get asked any questions

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fuzzy McDoodle Not bad not bad, might be useful to some real noobies.[/quote]Not really, considering that most noobies wouldn't even glance once at this thread.

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  • Not bad not bad, might be useful to some real noobies.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Synyster Ricz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vox_Populi23 *begin typical Septagon circle jerk* Tom, Honey, I... [i]appreciate[/i] what you're doing, but... this... piece of -blam!- you call a guide is not needed. I know that you appear to be 'helping' the Community, but we can all see through this bull-blam!-. It's not helpful in any way, shape, or form. It's just a sad excuse to get you recognition, or, perhaps, a chance to get you ahead of the herd for the next moderator lottery! I'm going to go ahead and call all of you posters, who replied with something similar to this "nice work lol. This is a great guide that no one will ever use!", complete PHONIES. You are pathetic. Your pathetic attempts to get noticed by Tom T, or one of the moderators, are laughable. Well, now isn't this awkward... The truth hurts, but it must be spoken. Tom, good luck on your quest to become Moderator. I hope your pathetic attempts to help the community get recognized. Sincerely, Vox Populi[/quote] I find it funny that you would stereotype everyone in this thread. You try to come off as "high and mighty" and smart but pttt. No luck. The truth is, something happened that makes you feel the need to attack Tom and say he is after the "moderator" title, and you call [b]everyone[/b] that said good job a kiss ass. What you just did I find pathetic. Good day to you sir. I do hope you get over whatever fit you have.[/quote]Stereotypes, but [i]accurate[/i] stereotypes nonetheless. Yes, you're right. Something did make me post what I did. It's called my opinion, and I am free to voice the -blam!- out of it, because, in case you haven't realised, we are on a [i]discussion[/i] board. People come here to [i]discuss[/i] things. Oh, and my opinion is always right.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vox_Populi23 *begin typical Septagon circle jerk* Tom, Honey, I... [i]appreciate[/i] what you're doing, but... this... piece of -blam!- you call a guide is not needed. I know that you appear to be 'helping' the Community, but we can all see through this bull-blam!-. It's not helpful in any way, shape, or form. It's just a sad excuse to get you recognition, or, perhaps, a chance to get you ahead of the herd for the next moderator lottery! I'm going to go ahead and call all of you posters, who replied with something similar to this "nice work lol. This is a great guide that no one will ever use!", complete PHONIES. You are pathetic. Your pathetic attempts to get noticed by Tom T, or one of the moderators, are laughable. Well, now isn't this awkward... The truth hurts, but it must be spoken. Tom, good luck on your quest to become Moderator. I hope your pathetic attempts to help the community get recognized. Sincerely, Vox Populi[/quote] I find it funny that you would stereotype everyone in this thread. You try to come off as "high and mighty" and smart but pttt. No luck. The truth is, something happened that makes you feel the need to attack Tom and say he is after the "moderator" title, and you call [b]everyone[/b] that said good job a kiss ass. What you just did I find pathetic. Good day to you sir. I do hope you get over whatever fit you have. [quote]Your pathetic attempts to get noticed by Tom T, or one of the moderators, are laughable.[/quote] Heh.

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  • *begin typical Septagon circle jerk* Tom, Honey, I... [i]appreciate[/i] what you're doing, but... this... piece of -blam!- you call a guide is not needed. I know that you appear to be 'helping' the Community, but we can all see through this bull-blam!-. It's not helpful in any way, shape, or form. It's just a sad excuse to get you recognition, or, perhaps, a chance to get you ahead of the herd for the next moderator lottery! I'm going to go ahead and call all of you posters, who replied with something similar to this "nice work lol. This is a great guide that no one will ever use!", complete PHONIES. You are pathetic. Your pathetic attempts to get noticed by Tom T, or one of the moderators, are laughable. Well, now isn't this awkward... The truth hurts, but it must be spoken. Tom, good luck on your quest to become Moderator. I hope your pathetic attempts to help the community get recognized. Sincerely, Vox Populi [Edited on 02.05.2009 2:04 PM PST]

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  • Not being able to change your group name is actually a smart move. People will think they joined the group by accident and could leave it. Not to mention someone could just change the group name to "we're flaming" or something similar to that nature.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fear Th3 Pink Is it possible to change your group's name ever?[/quote]No, sorry. Achronos could but he won't.

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  • Is it possible to change your group's name ever?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big This is a pretty helpful guide. Sticky worthy? Maybe, but I think it should displace "The Screw" as a top forum topic at least. It's helpful, after all.[/quote]Top Forum Topics are threads that have been Saved the most, the only way this thread will become a top forum topic is if lots of people save it. Thanks though![/quote]I'm aware, I was trying to promote the idea of saving such a thread so that it can replace the hilarious but old "Screw" thread.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CAVX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iggyhopper [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big This is a pretty helpful guide. Sticky worthy? Maybe, but I think it should displace "The Screw" as a top forum topic at least. It's helpful, after all.[/quote]Top Forum Topics are threads that have been Saved the most, the only way this thread will become a top forum topic is if lots of people save it. Thanks though![/quote]Proof? I thought it was the amount of replies over a a period of time.[/quote] No he's right. It's been said numerous times by Achronos. It's related to Saved Threads.[/quote] Recon keeps hinting at that too. Nice guide, I'm saving this. :-D

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iggyhopper [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big This is a pretty helpful guide. Sticky worthy? Maybe, but I think it should displace "The Screw" as a top forum topic at least. It's helpful, after all.[/quote]Top Forum Topics are threads that have been Saved the most, the only way this thread will become a top forum topic is if lots of people save it. Thanks though![/quote]Proof? I thought it was the amount of replies over a a period of time.[/quote] No he's right. It's been said numerous times by Achronos. It's related to Saved Threads. [Edited on 02.05.2009 12:25 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big This is a pretty helpful guide. Sticky worthy? Maybe, but I think it should displace "The Screw" as a top forum topic at least. It's helpful, after all.[/quote]Top Forum Topics are threads that have been Saved the most, the only way this thread will become a top forum topic is if lots of people save it. Thanks though![/quote]Proof? I thought it was the amount of replies over a a period of time.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big This is a pretty helpful guide. Sticky worthy? Maybe, but I think it should displace "The Screw" as a top forum topic at least. It's helpful, after all.[/quote]Top Forum Topics are threads that have been Saved the most, the only way this thread will become a top forum topic is if lots of people save it. Thanks though!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EAGLES5 I appreciate the effort you put in to making this guide.[/quote] It is definately a good guide... Iv got a pretty successful group going right now and its quite active...but it took me 3 tries, would have been nice to have something like this kicking around for attempt 1.

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  • I appreciate the effort you put in to making this guide.

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  • This is a pretty helpful guide. Sticky worthy? Maybe, but I think it should displace "The Screw" as a top forum topic at least. It's helpful, after all.

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