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University to ban Alcohol because 20% of students are muslim

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/apr/12/university-alcohol-free-zones-muslim-students]University where 20% of students are Muslim considers alcohol-free zones 'We need to be more cautious about sex too,' says vice-chancellor of London Metropolitan University [/url] [quote]A London university is considering establishing alcohol-free zones on its campuses because so many of its students consider drinking to be immoral. Professor Malcolm Gillies, vice-chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said the selling of alcohol was an issue of "cultural sensitivity" at his institution where a fifth of students are Muslim. Speaking to a conference of university administrators in Manchester, he said that for many students, drinking alcohol was "an immoral experience". "Because there is no majority ethnic group [at London Metropolitan], I think [selling alcohol] is playing to particular parts of our society much more [than to others]," he was reported as saying in the Times Higher Education magazine. He said he saw little reason for the university to subsidise a student bar on campus when there were "at least half a dozen pubs within 200m". He told the Guardian the makeup of his institution had changed considerably over the past few decades. In the past it had been "substantially Anglo Saxon now 20% of our students are Muslim," he said. "We therefore need to rethink how we cater for that 21st-century balance. For many students now, coming to university is not about having a big drinking experience. The university bar is not as used as it used to be."[/quote] [Edited on 04.14.2012 1:59 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LaDavid [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 Almost exclusively in the context of private religious organizations. This is not a private religious organization. Religious groups do not get to have their "morality" trample the rights of those who do not wish to partake in their sects.[/quote] Is that just because you don't like it, or is there some other reason?[/quote]You're going to have to be more specific.[/quote] Is it just because you don't like religion or was there something else? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 I have already said that I object to the reasoning, not the ultimate outcome. I have already said, repeatedly, that there certainly are perfectly agreeable and legitimate reasons to restrict alcohol form time to time and place to place. My objection is that personal moral (or religious) edicts, beliefs, and dogmas be allowed to trample on the freedoms of those who do not share those beliefs. The religious are in no way being harmed by the presence of alcohol simply because it is against their religion to consume it. Wanting an absence of alcohol to make an area more peaceful and safe is acceptable because peace and safety are benefits that can be enjoyed by all students. The lack of some sort of religious or moral offense is not if one does not share those convictions.[/quote] Why is it that you just object to religion but find different reasons acceptable otherwise? How is this different from you not wanting anything religious to have any say apparently in anything? (Or that's the impression I'm getting from you anyway. If that impression is wrong then please say so.) Is that not your own "personal moral (or religious) edicts, beliefs, and dogmas"? And how is using religion as a basis any different from using anything else as a basis? [Edited on 04.14.2012 10:21 PM PDT]

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